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I might have missed it in the spec, I thought 2k was 2560x1440.
2K is often misused.

Officially,
  • 720p = 1280 by 720
  • 1080 = 1920 by 1080
  • 2K = 2048 by 1080
  • 1440p = 2560 by 1440
  • 4K = 3840 by 2160 or 4096 by 2160
  • 8K = 7680 by 4320
Some 2K cameras do in fact use resolution similar to your's. Eufy's own Video Doorbell 2K has 2560 by 1920 resolution.

It's also possible that Best Buy's spec sheet for the product is incorrect.
 
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2K is not as significant of an upgrade as you think. It's roughly 10% sharper:
  • eufyCam 2: 1920 by 1080 (2,073,600 pixels)
  • eufyCam 2 Pro: 2048 by 1080 (2,211,840 pixels)
Eufy replied on bestbuy.com that the resolution of the 2k model is 2304x1296 or roughly 44% more pixels than 1920x1080.
 
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good luck getting anywhere near 1-year battery life with HomeKit Secure Video turned on. I am getting 2 month battery life on non-Pro eufyCam 2.
I still don’t quite understand the logic of batteries for a product like this

don't get it, what am I missing? are you planning to watch an Avenger movie at home? sounds like a lot of wasted storage and bandwidth
more pixels = more details. If you can’t make out any features or see details what’s the point?

I see such inexpensive wifi cameras
FYI these are not inexpensive. They might be cheaper than “professional” cameras but they are not inexpensive.

The $20 Outdoor/1080p/PoE/metal body/IR IP cameras I bought from China are inexpensive.
 
Maybe not perfect for everyone but more cameras in the HomeKit space is a good thing. Now, someone get going on a doorbell please.

Yup, I’ve been wanting to invest in some type of video doorbell To add to my CCTV. (And no, not interested in ‘Ring’). I know there’s options out there, but I want to see something more secure in terms of privacy values and More integration with software tailored to iOS.
 
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Or:

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Lol or that. I was think WiFi signal scramblers or cable cutters. Didn’t think about that paper bag.
 
I got the Eufycam 2 (not pro) as Amazon deal of the day in late June. I have already had to recharge the batteries on one of them and the other is at 50%. Nowhere near 1 year. I’d be happy if I got even 3 months but 2 weeks was pretty ridiculous. They told me to put the cameras somewhere to detect less motion. Right...I put them where I wanted to detect motion. That part is working great. Range is great. Animal vs Vehicle vs Person works fairly well. Homekit setup was easy. Don’t even need the Eufy app. Two-way audio does not work with the non-pro. Be interesting to see what it is for this new one. I had a lot of connection issues at first but that seems to have resolved itself. I plan on returning them for a wired HomeKit camera. Battery so bad I cannot even go in a trip without risking them dying.

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I continued to use the cameras to the end of my return window. Battery life on one of them is slightly better but maybe would last a month total. The other camera is losing ~7% a day and completely stopped working at around 24%. They were not able to figure out what happened there. Also, I regularly have disconnection problems. Not sure if it is homekit hub or eufy but while recording it has a problem viewing life stream.

I got an ecobee cam and circle view to compare and the eufycam 2 video quality is much much better than the others. otherwise homekit behaves relatively the same.

A hint for those with eufycam2, if you enable home permissions in eufy app it will automatically add the cameras to your eufy account even if you only wanted them in homekit. Now available to the world...The only way to remove it is to completely reset the devices, remove eufy app then add to HomeKit.

Very important info: Eufy does not Have 2-step authentication on their accounts.
 
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I still don’t quite understand the logic of batteries for a product like this
IMO, Anker overstated the battery life.

When the camera is set to human only detection, optimal battery life setting, and no HomeKit, it is possible to get close to 12 month battery life (10 month is more realistic for typical homes).

But when it deviates by all motion detection, which is what HomeKit Secure Video requires, the battery life quickly plummets.

Anker needs to counter this by accelerating the solar charger accessory (it is in the works) and sell it to existing customers at very reasonable price.
 
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Man these WiFi cameras are so expensive but if you were a real thief you would know to cut the power so peoples wifi goes offline. Then go to town and rob them. Unless they have a power backup you are free.
"Should I rob these people while they are sleeping by cutting the power line - thereby attracting an enormous amount of unwanted attention from police and neighbors and utility workers, rather than just simply robbing them while they aren't home? Yes, because I am a REAL THIEF"
 
I'll have to check out the specifications but does anyone know if these are compatible with NAS systems such as Synology DSM? I know Synology allows 1-2 free surveillance licenses with their systems - meaning free local recording on owned Synology systems that can be accessed remotely with automated alerts, etc., essentially the same services offered by Nest and other companies that require monthly subscriptions. HikVision and other camera's work with Synology's Surveillance System. If these were compatible, I wonder how HomeKit would/could integrate as well. Food for thought.
 
Man these WiFi cameras are so expensive but if you were a real thief you would know to cut the power so peoples wifi goes offline. Then go to town and rob them. Unless they have a power backup you are free.
This is part of why I like PoE cameras - run the PoE switch(es) from a UPS (I've even seen some consumer-oriented units now where the output of the UPS is DC, avoiding the conversion back to AC (and then back to DC) specifically designed for devices like small switches, etc that take DC in) and you have no issues with power outages, etc.
 
Too bad they didn't honor their promise to bring HomeKit to version 1 from their kickstarter campaign. Hard to trust them after that.
 
Do the math. How many pixels will a car license plate (12inches wide) be at 30ft away with a 140deg FOV? Assuming it's perfectly head-on.
  • At 1080 (1920px horizontally) resolution, it will be 34 pixels wide.
  • At 2k (2560px horizontally) resolution, it will be 45 pixels wide.
  • At 4k (3840px horizontally) resolution, it will be 68 pixels wide.
30ft isn't that far.
*Thank you* for creating such a clear example for people who don't get it. (why better video quality is totally needed.)

I installed the top of the line Nest security camera 2 yrs ago and am amazed at how poor the video quality is...
 
I'll have to check out the specifications but does anyone know if these are compatible with NAS systems such as Synology DSM?
Well, there’s this in the settings on my (older model) 2C:
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I still don’t quite understand the logic of batteries for a product like this
Because not everyone is mounting them in places where they can run power wires.
 
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"The eufyCam 2 Pro features a 2K resolution for crisp, sharp video, and it is compatible with HomeKit"
^^^ this
don't get it, what am I missing? are you planning to watch an Avenger movie at home? sounds like a lot of wasted storage and bandwidth
Well, I can tell you that the alleged 1080p video quality of other cameras is not what I would call 1080p.
 
Because not everyone is mounting them in places where they can run power wires.

Could you give me an example of a place you might place a camera, that you can't get ethernet to, but that has Wifi coverage, and that is accessible enough to change/charge the battery every 2 months?
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Well, I can tell you that the alleged 1080p video quality of other cameras is not what I would call 1080p.
Either it is or it isn't 1080p - there's nothing subjective about resolution.

The bigger issue is likely to be the bitrate, and possibly the lens.
 
Could you give me an example of a place you might place a camera, that you can't get ethernet to, but that has Wifi coverage, and that is accessible enough to change/charge the battery every 2 months?
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Either it is or it isn't 1080p - there's nothing subjective about resolution.

The bigger issue is likely to be the bitrate, and possibly the lens.
Detached garage. Can get WiFi but running an Ethernet cable would be difficult. Havent tried PoE but I plan on running other devices in the garage. I’m going to need to run Ethernet eventually.

There is also an area where someone could totally get into my house and getting power there would be expensive. I’d use a battery camera only in limited areas.
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I got the indoor cam 2k (one standard and one pan and tilt) when they were on preorder and they are the real deal for the right price, but even though they advertised HomeKit support I discovered when we received them that the HomeKit support is pending a firmware release this month. So far they are really are just as good as competing indoor cams and baby monitors (which is what we got them for, probably some reason they don’t advertise them as such.) for a fraction of the price, but still waiting for the HomeKit integration to give them the full 👍.
Would you mind if I ask a few questions? When you get alert, how quickly can you get a live view or look at the recorded video? If it’s quick, is it consistently quick?

I have Ring cameras. The video quality is low bitrate and even at that quality sometimes I can’t get a live view quickly.

If I don’t have full bars, viewing over cellular is useless.
 
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Detached garage. Can get WiFi but running an Ethernet cable would be difficult. Havent tried PoE but I plan on running other devices in the garage. I’m going to need to run Ethernet eventually.

Does it (the garage) have power already? How far is it from the main house/building? If there's a lot of concrete/etc that makes a subterranean conduit unfeasible/excessive work, you could always string up exterior-rated Eth (either the kind with a built in tension wire, or clipped to an external tension wire) between the buildings overhead (assuming they're high enough or you don't need to get tall stuff underneath.
 
Man these WiFi cameras are so expensive but if you were a real thief you would know to cut the power so peoples wifi goes offline. Then go to town and rob them. Unless they have a power backup you are free.
Which is why my router and modem are both on a UPC that keeps my network up for three hours max in the case of a power outage. The drop from my cable provider comes in under my home as well so not only would they have to know exactly where it ran under my lawn but somehow manage to dig deep enough to cut the line without myself, my neighbors or one of my cameras seeing them. I didn’t make my system completely foolproof because realistically that’s just not possible, but I did take steps to make my home a lot less appealing than my neighbors, which is effectively the same thing really.
 
No thanks.

I'm not going to start having to maintain a pile of hub/bridges for various HomeKit devices.

Intersting opinion.
I find Hubs are by far the superior implementation.
When every device you have needs to join directly to Wifi, your network turns to crap.
A Hub allows you to position is closer to its devices for better coverage.
A hub usefully consolidates the endpoints so they don't pollute your IP network.
A hub allows you to mass add multiple devices with a single code.

My Philips Hue bulks are far more reliable with their ZigBee protocol than my Lifx bulbs using direct Wifi.
My Wireless IP cameras don't always get solid connection as it depends what else is happening on my Wifi.
While my Eufy cameras wireless are not interrupted.

FACT: you get much better battery life for Wireless Camera's that use a hub over Wifi Camera's that use TCP/IP.

So each to their own, but your choice isn't the best.
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The OMNA 180 cams are good for this. They have an SD card slot so you don't have to worry about uploading your video to external services.

They also have a nice grid interface so you can set hot areas for movement notifications... Say for example, you make the grid view of the kitchen table to watch for motion so you can get a notification of the dog is trying to get to something they shouldn't.

The OMNA camera's have no intelligence for motion. The sun setting used to trigger my Omna's simply from reflections and shadows. Cloud cover with the sun breaking through would change the lighting in my home enough that it would trigger.

They are good at displaying an image but useless for security.
 
With a field-of-view of 140deg, you need those pixels to really be able to see detail at any normal distance. Think about pointing a camera at your driveway trying to catch some porch pirates or someone that dumped some crap on your lawn - can you see their license plate from a distance?

Do the math. How many pixels will a car license plate (12inches wide) be at 30ft away with a 140deg FOV? Assuming it's perfectly head-on.
  • At 1080 (1920px horizontally) resolution, it will be 34 pixels wide.
  • At 2k (2560px horizontally) resolution, it will be 45 pixels wide.
  • At 4k (3840px horizontally) resolution, it will be 68 pixels wide.
30ft isn't that far. But a license plate at that distance will be REALLY small with a 140deg FOV. At 34px wide, it would probably be totally illegible - a single letter would only be a few pixels wide, no way to differentiate between any letters, and keep in mind most of the time it won't be a perfect head-on shot but rather at an angle with some blurring. Even at 4k the license plate will be barely legible, each letter would be 5-6 pixels wide - that might be enough to differentiate between M and W.
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I might have missed it in the spec, I thought 2k was 2560x1440.

To my knowledge, that is 2.5K, or QHD.
2K is roughly the same as 1080.
 
Does anybody have the first one? Is connecting to them snappier than others? I've had a couple of Nest Cams for awhile and my problem with them is that they lag a lot and connecting to them via the app takes forever also managed by google now 🤷‍♂️
 
Still waiting for their doorbell to be released (in the Uk).

2K and higher rules out 50% of the UK using it as internet upload speed is not fast enough - unless local storage or a “lower resolution mode” is provided (I haven’t checked the specifics of this camera).
 
I have cameras everywhere in my home but I am aware if someone wants to get in they will - we use it as a knowing who is knocking the door for deliveries, etc.
Totally agree. Mine is a security deterrent for the opportunistic thief but mainly to keep an eye on my dog while I’m out and like you say, to check who is at the door. I’m under no illusion that if a determined thief wants my stuff, they’ll break in properly. That’s what the turret-mounted flame throwers are for.
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Does anybody have the first one? Is connecting to them snappier than others? I've had a couple of Nest Cams for awhile and my problem with them is that they lag a lot and connecting to them via the app takes forever also managed by google now 🤷‍♂️
I got the Eufy 2 outdoor pack of two cams and use them indoors at the minute. I absolutely love them. I have a Nest 4K on the front door for monitoring outside and the Eufy app is so much better than Nest. The Nest feed often just spins that blue circle for ages but these load the stream with little delay reliably every time. I am thrilled with them. And the claimed 365 day batter is not far off given how much battery remaining mine have. I’d say 10 months with typical usage which is solid in my opinion. Just annoyed I missed out on these 2K ones. Although you can just buy the individual cams and add them to your hub. Think it supports a decent number of cameras.

Golf R or T-Roc R? 😉
 
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