Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Anonymous Samsung Executive Claims Apple Planning to Launch Smaller iPad by End of 2012
- Thread starter MacRumors
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
I think that a smaller 7" iPad wouldn't really eat into their other markets if they released it in an 8GB version for $299 and a 16GB for $349. Then they should upgrade the base big iPad to 32GB ($499) and offer 64GB and 128GB as upgraded sizes and get rid of the old iPad 2. Tons of new customers would rush out to get their first iOS tablet at a cheaper price for Christmas and then within a few months realize that the storage is way too small and then upgrade to a real iPad when the next new one comes out in the spring.
Well...
Even though history has proved that Apple is quite okay with cannibalizing themselves (as they say, better them than someone else), such as with iPod Nanos etc... they're not fond of low profit margins.
They also like to say they reinvented a market. What could they say here? "Apple reinvents the e-Book reader?" "Apple reinvents the pen stylus?" Too late, already done.
--
So here's my totally off-the-wall wish: Apple should take the Microsoft Courier project and put their own spin on it.
Yep, instead of going cheaper, they could go with a more expensive dual-screen 7" book format.
No predictions. Just wishes.
Even though history has proved that Apple is quite okay with cannibalizing themselves (as they say, better them than someone else), such as with iPod Nanos etc... they're not fond of low profit margins.
They also like to say they reinvented a market. What could they say here? "Apple reinvents the e-Book reader?" "Apple reinvents the pen stylus?" Too late, already done.
--
So here's my totally off-the-wall wish: Apple should take the Microsoft Courier project and put their own spin on it.
Yep, instead of going cheaper, they could go with a more expensive dual-screen 7" book format.
No predictions. Just wishes.
Android will have majority market share by 2015, but Apple doesn't need to compete? If Apple had been more aggressive with the iPhone, Android wouldn't be the majority smartphone OS.
Is this the same guy from a couple of days ago that same that Samsung is the only supplier for the retina display in the new iPad. only to have LG come out and call him a liar.
----------
Says you. but the facts could turn out different. How about we wait until 2015 and see what those facts are.
----------
I say that you just nailed it. They aren't making a smaller iPad but a new iPod Touch. that they did nothing to update this past fall could be because they weren't happy with the revamped model and wanted to do some more work on it to make it 'steve worthy'. And this fall we will have the new larger iPod Touch
The only thing they could even think about doing is to create a tablet with 1024*768 resolution, with retina display, would make that a 4.85" screen.
Unless you want them to expect developers to make yet another version of their app. (mind you they are all working on the new iPads resolution right now)
960*640,480*320,1024*768, and 2048*1536 is enough fragmentation. Fragmentation is one thing Steve did not want, and Apple will not push for furthered fragmentation.
Well then they will lose the game against Google
Fragmentation is good. Its called evolution.
At the end, Google can run Android on everything.
And Apple cant.
*** Can run Android -poorly- on everything. ***
I prefer the experience where the hardware and software were created specifically for each other. And the more devices Apple has to do this for, the more that quality will deteriorate for all devices.
I prefer the experience where the hardware and software were created specifically for each other. And the more devices Apple has to do this for, the more that quality will deteriorate for all devices.
So basically, Apple not providing tools is what makes developers sloppy and lazy.
Yes, it is sloppy to hard code to specific resolutions.
I think Apple will produce a tablet this size. I believe there is sufficient market evidence to convince Apple that there is an interest in such a size. However, I believe that interest is driven primarily by lower price rather than form factor. It's also not only about Apple's hardware, but also about the OS. Android will continue to gain ground, it's enviable, and in the table arena, that drive appears to be from the cheaper 7-inch space. While it's unlike that Apple will produce a $200 tablet, Apple would do very well with a $300 price point. What we'll like see as the tablet market mature is a market price structure similar as that seen in the PC and Mac space, with Apple maintaining higher prices and Android competitors struggling to compete against each other. Although at present, Apple seems to have both the quality and price advantage forcing competitors to either build a substandard device, or charge more for similar specifications.
It will fit in a winter coat pocket, probably the glove pocket and certainly the inside "newspaper" pocket that is most overcoats. It might even fit in cargo pant pockets. Most of my browsing is articles and I think it could easily scale the websites down so that the main article on a page is very readable.
I guess in the summer when one isnt' wearing a coat with big pockets you are back to the same question about how to carry this thing. I don't see guys breakingout the fanny packs for their mini-tablet to go in.
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; CPU iPhone OS 5_1 like Mac OS X) AppleWebKit/534.46 (KHTML, like Gecko) Mobile/9B176)
I thought the same thing. They are saying this to somehow promote their own galaxy note that: it's not a phone it's not a tablet... It's a phone that's too big and a tablet that's too small.
hobo.hopkins said:
I thought the same thing. They are saying this to somehow promote their own galaxy note that: it's not a phone it's not a tablet... It's a phone that's too big and a tablet that's too small.
From the app design perspective there are only two. iPhone's 480*320 and iPad's 1024*768. Others simply use graphics that are 2 times the resolution.
I still don't know how the developers feel about having another screen size to support though.
Because an 11" MBA has a full size keyboard.
----------
Here's the thing: People are somehow supposed to believe that this particular claim is more realistic than any other wild guess, because it comes from a Samsung "executive". But if this particular executive actually knew anything about upcoming products, why would he say "probably"? That some Samsung executive, who by the looks of Samsung's own portfolio inherently believes that fragmentation is good, has some personal belief that Apple will introduce a smaller iPad, doesn't make it so. I don't think this particular claim has more merit than if, say, Eric Schmidt or Steve Ballmer were to speak up about their beliefs of what the next Apple product will be. The way I see it, this guy knows how much Apple expect to buy, but not _what_ they are going to buy. The 7.85" is pure speculation, and the fact that this speculation comes from a Samsung employee, doesn't make it any more trustworthy.
There is NO place for a smaller MacBook Pro between the 17" model and the 13" model.
What would they call it - MacBook Pro 13" Extended Edition? 17" Mini?
It's not when you know the resolution isn't ever going to change.
That aside, Apple does have plenty of tools for handling adjusting the UI, the designer (IB) in XCode has plenty of options for controls for autoresizing and laying content out, but it's just not necessary.
Then don't buy it when it comes out. Why is this such a difficult concept for people to grasp? If you don't want it, don't buy it, and don't think just because you don't want it others will not want it either.
No one knows, and Apple has shown us this is far from ever going to happen (or not happen). We already have quite the few resolution changes with iPad/iPhone.
Don't try to convince, I know. However, like I said and you said yourself, it's not being encouraged and thus locks developers into specific hard coded resolutions, resulting in some work being needed when a new device appears (even just the Retina resolutions required developers to adjust their stuff).
That's only one resolution change, and I see it as a good thing that iPhone apps don't automatically adjust to the iPad's screen, so we get better UIs, designed just for the 10 inch display. Rather than a phone app filling out.No one knows, and Apple has shown us this is far from ever going to happen (or not happen). We already have quite the few resolution changes with iPad/iPhone.
Not to my knowledge, anyway. I've hardly looked into it, so perhaps I am wrong.
It's not quite hard coded, but some parts of the UI are likely to be designed just for a 9.7 inch 1024x768 display.
And the only thing the retina display requires is double resolution images, developers don't have to do anything but that.
I like the "iPad" name just strung together with Mini is horrible. Mac Mini sounds nice because it's alliteration: I'd rather something more along the lines of iPad Air and iPad Pro?
I believe it was Gruber who suggested the name "iPad Air", but considering that the iPod Mini was, I believe, the best-selling iPod model, using that moniker with the smaller iPad has strong history behind it.
Now if they just renamed the iPod Touch the "iPad Nano".