Another AppStore App REJECTED By Apple!

Discussion in 'iOS Apps' started by SuperMacMan, Sep 12, 2008.

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Do you think Apple should have ALLOWED this App?

  1. Yes, definately!

    50 vote(s)
    60.2%
  2. Maybe/I don't know

    19 vote(s)
    22.9%
  3. No, this App is junk!

    14 vote(s)
    16.9%
  1. SuperMacMan macrumors regular

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    Apple has rejected yet another App from it's much-hyped App Store, this time an app that actually does something useful.
    The App, titled Podcaster, allows you to stream or even download directly to your device new Podcasts for listening on the go with your iPhone or iPod Touch. This App is useful when you are away from your computer and unable to get to iTunes to download new podcasts and sync them with your iPhone/iPod Touch. It has been in a private beta (using the Ad-Hoc method) for a while, before it was submitted to Apple on August 18th. It's nearly a month later, and finally there is a response. It's been rejected. The reason from Apple: It duplicates what iTunes does. Yet, Pandora Radio wasn't rejected, and it does a very similar thing!
    What seems strange, however, is that the name of the Apple Representative was the same as the one who rejected the controversial "Pull My Finger" Application.
    If you feel the same way as the developer on this, and you wish to support the developer, please digg the link below: http://digg.com/gadgets/Apple_Rejects_Podcast_App_duplicates_itunes_functionality
    You can visit the developers blog here: http://almerica.blogspot.com or see the beta version at http://code.google.com/p/nativepodcaster
    Also, please vote in the poll if you believe this App should be allowed.

    SuperMacMan
     
  2. opticalserenity macrumors 6502a

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    It's their store, they don't have to sell items they don't want. I'm so tired of seeing these threads. As a developer and business owner, I understand that if I sell in the app store, or wish to, the STORE OWNER has the right to reject my product.

    So....don't develop if you are not willing to take that risk.
     
  3. Justinerator macrumors 6502

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    Couldn't have said it better myself. ;)
     
  4. marksman macrumors 603

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    It does duplicate what iTunes does.

    Pandora does not duplicate what iTunes does.
     
  5. SuperMacMan thread starter macrumors regular

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    Yes, but iTunes is DESKTOP, not MOBILE. This App allows you to subscribe/listen to/download Podcasts ON THE GO, WITHOUT having to use your computer to download/sync iPhone/iPod Touch with iTunes.
    This is useful if you are away on holiday, have your iPhone but not MacBook/Lappie/whatever.

    Maybe I wasn't clear enough when I said this in the original post?

    SuperMacMan
     
  6. WillJS macrumors 65816

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    I don't know if this is what your app does or anything, as I didn't read any links due to the apparent whining, but have you considered that that don't want someone to download/stream an entire podcast over a cell network?
     
  7. kntgsp macrumors 6502a

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    App Store Blacklist: Podcaster Too iTunesy

    (Mod note: Threads merged)

    Hadn't seen this anywhere posted yet, so thought folks might find it interesting.


    Thoughts?


    http://gizmodo.com/5049325/app-store-blacklist-podcaster-too-itunesy

    http://arstechnica.com/journals/app...ies-iphone-podcast-app-for-duplicating-itunes
     
  8. DreamPod macrumors 65816

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    I have a question: what keeps this from turning into an MP3 music-sharing service? All a podcast is, is an MP3. Maybe Apple decided that it duplicates the functionality of iTunes, without some sort of securty measure (that iTunes has) keeping "Podcasts" from being pure music?

    I bet if the app was redesigned to not download the podcast, and just stream it, Apple would allow it.
     
  9. Eric. macrumors regular

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    Good point, although if it only downloaded them from one site that really does just have podcasts it shouldn't be an issue.



    I won't lose any sleep over this. I've never downloaded a podcast.
     
  10. TimothyB macrumors 6502a

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    Wait a minute, isn't there a new Calendar app in the store recently? If I recall, doesn't the iPhone already have a calendar?
     
  11. Dr. Cabrera macrumors 65816

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    "Too iTunesy "

    someone should smack the original author that coined that phrase
     
  12. Ntombi macrumors 68030

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    :eek: I can't imagine that. I have over a thousand!
     
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    While I agree that Apple shouldn't have to sell products that it doesn't like, I do not agree that Apple can then essentially ban the product from running on any device. Unless you jailbreak or similar, there is no way to get this app whether you want it or not.
     
  14. Excellerator macrumors 6502a

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    Don't forget, Simplify allows you to stream podcasts too. So I am not sure why they allow that.
     
  15. kntgsp macrumors 6502a

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    Last I checked iPhones had wifi.

    God forbid someone downloads their latest podcast while at a hotspot. Oh the humanity.
     
  16. kntgsp macrumors 6502a

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    There have been multiple calculator apps as well. The problem is that Apple continuously moves the goal posts.

    Either explicitly say certain types of applications won't be passed, or **** and let us do what we want with our phones.

    This app "legislating" will only push more people to jailbreak. If Apple is going to force control over what apps you can put on your phone, it should be limited to checking to make sure it isn't malicious.

    If Apple wants to play censor, then let us put apps on our phone outside of the app store. Otherwise people will just jailbreak and put apps on their phone for free.
     
  17. angels lust macrumors member

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    I'm sure Apple bars hundreds of apps that don't suit their agenda. I'm sure it was something more than just "duplicates what iTunes already does" as there are dozens of Apps in the store that duplicate one another.

    It's too bad, I can see how this App would be useful albiet I don't listen to podcasts myself.
     
  18. B. Hunter macrumors regular

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    Why would anyone jailbreak to download crap? Some apps don't belong in the App Store. End of story.
     
  19. fergusean macrumors newbie

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    People keep saying that Apple's policies keep changing and they allow app A but not app B, which is similar to app A, etc, etc, etc.

    And so, I would like to point out that these applications are approved by individuals. People with thoughts. Not by "Apple", but by Apple's employees. One employee may approve an app, while another would reject it. It all comes down to luck of the draw - whether you get the nice guy or the mean guy.
     
  20. kntgsp macrumors 6502a

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    Koi Pond is crap, why is it in the App Store?
     
  21. kntgsp macrumors 6502a

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    That's the inherent problem with their system.

    It's too subjective. There should be a clear line drawn in the sand. Then there wouldn't be any issues.

    The solution is ridiculously simple, yet they continue to play the "we know what's better for the consumer".

    How can you gauge whether or not an app will be popular before it's even released. If it sits idle in the App Store for months on end with 5 downloads, then yea, go ahead and scrap it. But the App store is loaded with so much buggy crap for every one good app, that this selective censorship is ridiculous.

    It's clearly not working if all these other broken apps are sitting around on itunes for weeks on end. This control freak nonsense has to have its limits.
     
  22. jmmo20 macrumors 65816

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    What are you talking about?
    Nothing stops me (apart from a bunch of lawyers that is) from publishing a podcast XML feed containing music mp3 and allow everyone to go to iTunes and subscribe to the feed. Yes, it won't appear in the iTunes store podcast directory: but you can bypass the store altogether and subscribe to a feed directly.
     
  23. SuperMacMan thread starter macrumors regular

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    Last time I checked, the iPhone/iPod Touch had WiFi.
    Oh the horror. Someone downloaded/streamed a 30MB file over a WiFi network. SHOCK HORROR!! And, consider Pandora Radio or Last.fm. They have the capacity to pull MANY MANY GBs over the cell network, are they rejected. Nope!
    Also, this isn't my App, but I have taken an active role in getting it out there, publicised, and fixing bugs. Credit goes to Alex (www.almerica.blogspot.com)

    Anyway, this App does not duplicate functionality of iTunes. iTunes is a desktop app, this is an iPhone app. Also, the downloads are brilliant for iPod Touch users - when there's no WiFi!

    On another note, this story made the front page of www.macrumors.com! And the disuseion in there seems to be a heck of a lot more anti-Apple go-Podcaster, opposite to the mood in here. Very weird, considering it's exactly the same topic.

    Personally, I don't like Apple's approach to the AppStore. I think all Apple should run a 3 hour test for is some viruses/malicious code/bug ridden software, then hit publish. Letthe users decide what apps they want. And if an App sits there for 6 months with just 5 downloads, THEN pull it. I have seen the requests for the beta version of Podcaster, and they come in in the hundreds each day. If the developer was to have this approved, and charge $9.99 for it, he'd make $1000 in a day! Consider the fact that the webapp version, which only does streaming, http://podcaster.fm, has over 3000 users a DAY, and over 10,000 accounts, I think this app would be bloody popular!!!

    SuperMacMan.
     
  24. sharp65 macrumors 6502

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    How does it duplicate what itunes does? Last time I check itunes doesn't allow you to wirelessly stream podcasts from it. I hate that people are leghumping apple over every decision they make.
     
  25. PowerFullMac macrumors 601

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    I cant believe it, its ridiculous, let 50 of the same useless app in (anyone read the period app thread? :D) but one useful app gets kicked out!
     

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