Another attempt at Bootcamp

Discussion in 'Windows, Linux & Others on the Mac' started by Meister, Jan 31, 2015.

  1. Meister Suspended

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    So today I started one of my other attemps at installing win8 with bootcamp.
    And again my victim is a mba i5/4/256 '13.

    After the usual troubles I managed to come the setup screen where I am supposed to type in the computers name, but of course neither the trackpad nor keyboard work.

    What am I supposed to do at that point?
     
  2. yjchua95 macrumors 604

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    8 or 8.1?

    I had no problems with my Embedded 8.1 Industry Pro installer.

    You could try installing it to an external USB or TB drive instead, using this method:

    Connect external drive to Windows VM. You must have a Windows VM in VMware/Parallels/VBox, or a Windows PC. Any existing Windows environment will do.

    What you need:
    install.wim file (obtain this from your Windows ISO)

    Open elevated cmd.exe (run as admin)

    Note: All commands aren't case sensitive, including pathway to files.

    Type diskpart
    Type list disk
    Take note of the disk you want to select
    Type select disk 1 (if your disk is Disk 1)
    Type clean
    Type convert gpt
    Type create partition EFI size=100
    Type format quick fs=fat32 label=EFI
    Type assign letter=S
    Type create partition primary
    Type format fs=ntfs quick label=W2G (or any other name you wish for label)
    Type assign letter=E
    Type exit

    Open up File Explorer. In your C drive, create a new folder named WIN2GO.
    Put the install.wim file in this folder

    Back in cmd.exe:
    Type dism /apply-image /imagefile:C:\WIN2GO\install.wim /index:1 /applydir:E:\ (this process will take quite a while)
    Type E:\Windows\System32\bcdboot E:\Windows /s S: /f UEFI

    Restart your entire Mac. After the chime, hold down Option and when prompted to select your boot drive, select EFI Boot.

    Proceed installation normally.

    After installation, install Boot Camp drivers. Feel free to trash the VM once you're done too.

    For best results, use USB 3/Thunderbolt. If you don't have USB 3, use Thunderbolt. If you have neither, stick back to the internal drive :)
     
  3. Meister thread starter Suspended

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    Thank you for the reply.
    I have no windows VM or regular windows machine on hand and installing to an external is not part of the plan. I found an :apple: advisory that states that Windows can not be installed from a USB 3.0 drive. I just bought one, soley for this purpose :mad: So today I will give it a try with a slow 2.0 flash drive.
     
  4. yjchua95 macrumors 604

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    It works on a USB 3 SSD with my methods. I use Boot Camp for gaming from it.
     
  5. Meister thread starter Suspended

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    Installing from Usb 3.
    And on the german apple support page there is an official announcement, that usb 3 is not supported.

    Source: http://support.apple.com/de-de/TS4589
     
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    Oh. Installing from a USB installer won't work (unless you manually select EFI boot), because you've to use the dism.exe utility from an existing Windows environment.

    It's a gottverdammt situation.
     
  7. Meister thread starter Suspended

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    I am a bit lost.
    Bootcamp does not show me any details or files about the installation process and I am not looking into the iso further. the whole point of bootcamp should be that it is straight forward and easy to use. It was my understanding that your explanation is in regards to installing win8 to an external and that is not a viable option for me.

    the purpose of my exercise is to connect the mba to an external touchscreen, that only supports windows. the windows partition should be on the internal ssd.

    I already spent a few hours yesterday just to try to install windows.
    if this doesn't work I will blow this project off and look for a different solution.

    I am already foaming with rage that I spent hours of my precious time, just to find out that the keyboard and trackpad are disabled during the installation for no sensible reason. :mad:
     
  8. yjchua95 macrumors 604

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    When installing on internal SSDs, BCA has never given me much trouble.

    All I do is just plug my bootable Windows 8.1 installer, run BCA, and upon restart, I hold down the Option key and select EFI Boot. Then I proceed the installation. The keyboard and trackpad still works during the installation.

    But then let's face it, Windows still sucks :D
     
  9. Meister thread starter Suspended

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    What is a bootable Windows 8.1 installer?

    I might add that I actually installed ubuntu on my mac mini with significantly less trouble and no BC of course.

    But my understanding was that bootcamp is an easy tool and you just follow the instructions. Now you are telling me about efi boot and making a bootable Windows 8.1 installer?

    What am I missing here?
     
  10. yjchua95 macrumors 604

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    The bootable 8.1 installer is actually in the form of a USB stick, created by Boot Camp out of an ISO file downloaded from MSDN.
     
  11. Meister thread starter Suspended

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    I did that, but then the keyboard and trackpad are not working in windows.
     
  12. yjchua95 macrumors 604

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    That's really messed up.

    Have you tried downloading an updated version of the 8.1 installer?
     
  13. Meister thread starter Suspended

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    I only have am activation code for win8.
    I just tried it again with usb 2. Wasted 2 hours and the same thing.

    Personalize screen and neither keyboard nor trackpad work. **** windows!! :mad:
     
  14. yjchua95 macrumors 604

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    Join the club :D

    Do you happen to have a USB keyboard and mouse lying around?
     
  15. Meister thread starter Suspended

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    No :mad:

    I am even using public internet because I am on the go.
     
  16. Meister thread starter Suspended

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    I just tried a usb mouse and keyboard and that didn't work either. :mad:

    **** windows!!!


    :mad:
     
  17. yjchua95 macrumors 604

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    I think you'd better try my method of installing on external first and see whether it works or not.
     
  18. Meister thread starter Suspended

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    I don't have the time or nerve for this.
    I've been struggling with windows for 25years and I am so happy that I can use Mac OS on my private computers!
    Once you start to run windows there is nothing but trouble.
    I commented on some other threads where people had the exact same problem.
    The solution seems to be to reinstall until it works. No, thank you.
    I called MS in germany and those ********s are the worst.
     
  19. yjchua95 macrumors 604

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    Hahahaha....

    I've had no problems with my Windows installation, be it internally or externally, and it runs like a champ :)
     
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    I feel for the frustration you're dealing with, but your experience isn't typical. I've had a handful of issues, mostly minor with Bootcamp. I've had little to no problems with my Surface Pro either.
     
  21. Meister thread starter Suspended

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    Good for you.
    I really wanted it to work, since Mac OS does not support touchscreens and I bought one that we really liked.
    I am 99% sure now that I will never ever touch windows again on any of my private computers.
     

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