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Stampyhead said:
Woah, I think that's more like web design hell...


OW! MY EYES!

I thought people stopped using animated gifs in 1995! :)

I think my PowerBook's hotness factor went down after opening that site on it! :p
 
You could always get her to install OSx86 on that Dell ;)

katie ta achoo said:
OT: running spyware checker after a week? And it got really bogged down during it? sounds like it CAME with spyware!
Well, can Win XP be considered spyware?

~cue paranoid XP user with the "crash reporter" thing.~
You do know that they (Mitnick and friends) did a study, and put an XP on the 'net, and it got exploited and broken into with four minutes!
 
SummerBreeze said:
... she just told me that computers worked like that, and sometimes they just crash and it is no big deal, you just have to spend a few hours and sometimes you can even keep some of your data. ...
I have heard this so many times and it is truly amazing to me how the pervasiveness of M$ has managed to turn average folks into idiots. It's not that computers just work like that. It's that the only ones you have ever tried to use work like that.

In many cases I've had the same discussion with people who in other circumstances apply rational logic when choosing other producs they buy. They have no problem paying more for a set of "Henckels" knives because "I like to cook and they feel better in my hand and I feel safer using them", or buying the "Toro" trimmer instead of the "Black&Decker" because "it just works better", or the BMW instead of the Honda because "I think it handles better." Yet these same individuals are willing to settle for "Well, that's just they way it is with computers."

One friend I have is constantly bitching about the time he spends keeping things running in his home network (consisting of a total of 2 PCs) used by him and his wife and how his wife is always getting in trouble and things stop working for her. They live in a big house, own 2 Porsches and a Benz. He says he will never again buy a domestic automobile because "they fall apart." Yet an alternate solution for his computer needs is clearly out of the question . . . go figure!!
 
gco212 said:
Just out of curiosity, what does your friend do with her computer? I run a PC and have had, I believe, 3 viruses, none of which were ever noticable. I don't do much to monitor what I do on the internet (like avoiding websites), other than the fact that I have a firewall, and that is simply because I have a router. I run adaware and a few other programs occasionally, but those are just out of curiosity, never because I feel the computer slowing down.

I know this isn't directed to me but I have an observation. I'm a Mac user since 84, but do use PC's. I am considered an expert. I just got a nice Vaio 3.6Ghz tower. I wanted THIS machine to be safe, so I took all the precautions. The single most annoying issue I have are all the little windows that pop up saying "you're safe now". I can't stop them. If you do, MORE windows pop up saying "You're not safe now!". It's constant and annoying. THEN, to top that all off is the constant updates needed to keep it safe. It's like a side job. All of my effort went to naught.... one week after I got it all set something snuck through... maybe I wasn't paying attention to one of the hundred firewall messages to pop up, but it hosed the machine. Sony is nice enough to have an invisible partition to restore to factory, and I had to do it.
Too much work for a device that is supposed to serve US.
 
Les Kern said:
I know this isn't directed to me but I have an observation. I'm a Mac user since 84, but do use PC's. I am considered an expert. I just got a nice Vaio 3.6Ghz tower. I wanted THIS machine to be safe, so I took all the precautions. The single most annoying issue I have are all the little windows that pop up saying "you're safe now". I can't stop them. If you do, MORE windows pop up saying "You're not safe now!". It's constant and annoying. THEN, to top that all off is the constant updates needed to keep it safe. It's like a side job. All of my effort went to naught.... one week after I got it all set something snuck through... maybe I wasn't paying attention to one of the hundred firewall messages to pop up, but it hosed the machine. Sony is nice enough to have an invisible partition to restore to factory, and I had to do it.
Too much work for a device that is supposed to serve US.
Just put OSX on it and WINE (it apparently works - never tried) ;) That'll solve all your problems
 
Les Kern said:
. one week after I got it all set something snuck through... maybe I wasn't paying attention to one of the hundred firewall messages to pop up, but it hosed the machine.
Hmmm, I'm as willing as anyone else to diss Windows PCs, but I just don't see how this could happen if you're taking all the precautions you can. Unless the spyware writers are getting even better at it.

The nearest I've come to something sneaking through was about a month ago. I got what was obviously a phishing email - you know, "Select link to go to our customer service site and enter your account details".

Before I deleted it, I had an IM about something to do with work. After I dealt with that I went back to my email app (Thunderbird with image display off), but I selected the message view window to bring the mail to the front. And my virus checker popped up a message saying it had prevented a Trojan installer being downloaded.

It turned out the email "text" was actually an image embedded in the email (so that Thunderbird displayed it ... it only blocks external images) so clicking anywhere on the message view went to the download website.

The email was a malware download attempt masquerading as a phishing attempt.
 
A lot of folks here are in Denial. :rolleyes: It is not OK for anything to sneak through......ever. Period. End of discussion. :eek:

That's why I gave up repairing those f**kers. It's ongoing, relentless, continuous, persistant crap that requires huge blocks of time to manage and control. :mad:

I gave up PC's completely 2 years ago and the migraine headaches went away. :)

Life is too short to put up with the likes of an Malicious coder such as Bill Gates.:p

Sue me Bill :D
 
greatdevourer said:
You could always get her to install OSx86 on that Dell ;)

You do know that they (Mitnick and friends) did a study, and put an XP on the 'net, and it got exploited and broken into with four minutes!
Which is why nobody should go on-line without a firewall. If you have broadband, this means you must use a router that can firewall your entire network. And use a software firewall if you have dial-up (and it's not a bad idea even in conjunction with a router's firewall.)

At least this way, you'll actually have to do something before the criminals start hacking your computer. Otherwise, you'll be "pwned" before you even get a chance to download Microsoft's security patches.
 
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