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lol. please do something about this Apple

Apple can't stop people being "stupid" who give out their admin password for questionable apps they download

Those are the only two comments this thread needed (one wrong and one right). That's the whole issue right there in a nutshell. Too bad no one emailed Steve about it... so he could reply 'please educate yourself'. There probably wouldn't be 12 pages here now, were it not for that "Linux" comment on page 1. :D

The world is hacked, and it's users' fault
 
Whew! I just now discovered this thread and tried to skim through it... there's a lot! I'm sure I missed some things, but here goes:

First, iAntiVirus is bogus and I would never trust it. A year-old post sheds some light on this:iAntiVirus is bogus

True to form, unless I missed something, they're hyping a "threat" but don't list details, such as a list of apps that were found to contain this threat. That's because they want you to blindly buy their software and think you're safe. The fact is, no antivirus software can provide complete protection from viruses that haven't been created yet. They don't know what to look for.

Where are all the people on this forum that for years proclaimed that Mac OS was virus/spyware free and there would NEVER be viruses/spyware due to OSX being built on Linux.
As others have corrected you, no one that I recall seeing in the forum has claimed there would never be viruses or spyware. There WERE viruses on earlier versions, but there ARE no viruses in the wild that run on current Mac OS X (Leopard or Snow Leopard). That fact remains true for the moment.
Sheeeeez...I make 1 *%^&(*ing typo in my tenure here and the Mac Fanboys attack like pitbulls. Yeah, I know I meant Unix and typed Linux by accident. Again, sheeeez. If a simple typo is all you need to get yourself(ves) all wound up, you need a life.
Also, as already pointed out, Mac OS is built on UNIX, not Linux. "Unic" or "Umix" or "Uniz" or "Ynix" would be typos. "Linux" isn't a typo. It's a false statement.
"Spyware" is a more colloquial term than either "virus" or "trojan" anyway.
Don't you mean "malware"? I only say that since viruses, trojans, spyware, adware, worms, etc. are all forms of malware.
(A worm is a virus, right?)
Mac Virus/Malware Info
What a weird coincidence that this "firm" releases info about this supposedly spyware program after Google announces they are ditching windows internally.
Agreed! See iAntiVirus is bogus
Well, it's time for all the self-proclaimed tech-savies out there to start bashing Mac OS X for no longer being virus-safe
Mac OS X is not immune to viruses. Never has been.
I'll just go ahead and install all the AV-software for the Mac out there, and hope it'll prevent me from being stupid....
Sorry, they haven't come out with iAntiStupidity yet. :D For now, your Mac remains vulnerable to user actions, no matter how foolish they might be.
It's a silly argument, often made by people that don't understand Mac history.
There once was Mac viruses. Even when it's market share was lower than now. Then Apple released OSX, with a much more secure UNIX core, and hasn't had a single virus since. Spyware? Yes. Trojans? Yes. But an actual, honest to goodness virus in the wild? No.
True.
there are fewer Mac viruses etc being written, yes.
None, actually, that are in the wild.
They are harder to get installed because you have to put in your password and most folks know better yes.
You're talking about a trojan, not a virus. A virus propagates itself without user interaction required.
Intego is pretty good. I use their VirusBarrier X6. Within the year I've encountered only 1 virus which was inoculated immediately, but still. They're out there.
Name the one virus that it found. You can't, because it wasn't a virus that runs on Mac OS X.
I installed OnyX on my computer and when I tried to improve the system's performance using the freeware, a window appeared on the screen saying that in order for OnyX to operate, I need to enter the password. Is it safe to do it? Do hackers do something like that to gather password from users and/or install spyware?
OnyX is fine. It needs your password to be able to access system files. But yes, in general, be careful about where you get software, what you install and when you enter your admin password.
Just being pedantic - but your Mac can be infected with spyware without running an installer or entering your admin password.
Name one example that applies to Mac OS X.
 
Name the one virus that it found. You can't, because it wasn't a virus that runs on Mac OS X.

Yeah, it was.

And no, I don't recall the name of the virus. But the program found it.

My apologies for not documenting such small minutia. But keep on trollin', bro. :rolleyes:
 
nope OSX is actually less secure by architecture/design than any modern windows system.

google is your friend.

Most non kool aid sites accept this..

*whisper*

Apples marketing is mostly lies

like lots of other companies.
Stating that OSX is less secure by architecture than Windows is your daily bs ...
 
Just what I expected. You made the claim, now post the facts. If you know them, giving a list of just 10 reasons shouldn't be that difficult.

I suppose you would rather make claims and tell people to "google" them.

Just do a little search about his presence here and you will find the answer ;)

Just being pedantic - but your Mac can be infected with spyware without running an installer or entering your admin password.

And there have been Safari vulnerabilities in the past that enabled auto downloading & running of executables, it's possible there still might be.
Prove it. Not to be rude, just curious. Do you have a link ?
 
Yeah, it was.

And no, I don't recall the name of the virus. But the program found it.

My apologies for not documenting such small minutia. But keep on trollin', bro. :rolleyes:

Seriously?

"Yes, I had a Mac virus. No, I can't prove it. But it happened, bro!"

There are no Mac viruses. None. Zip, zero, zilch, nada.

But please, prove us wrong! Our side of that particular argument is well documented. Not so much with yours here.

jW
 
Yeah, it was.

And no, I don't recall the name of the virus. But the program found it.

My apologies for not documenting such small minutia. But keep on trollin', bro. :rolleyes:

I find it amusing when people are called trolls for pointing out the fallacy of someone's baseless argument. You can't name the virus, because it doesn't exist. NO virus exists in the wild that runs on current Mac OS X. There has never been a virus in the wild documented anywhere that runs on Leopard or Snow Leopard. Yet, you claim you found one. You can't provide one fact (not minutia, but the most important fact) to prove your false claim, so you resort to name-calling. How mature! :rolleyes:
 
nope OSX is actually less secure by architecture/design than any modern windows system.

google is your friend.

Most non kool aid sites accept this..

*whisper*

Apples marketing is mostly lies

like lots of other companies.

Then how come Google have switched from Windows and gone to OS X and Linux then Einstein?
 
Yeah, it was.

And no, I don't recall the name of the virus. But the program found it.

My apologies for not documenting such small minutia. But keep on trollin', bro. :rolleyes:

He's not trolling actually, you are. Back up your statements with facts, otherwise you're full of it.

Your program probably detected something, but it wasn't a virus.
 
I find it amusing when people are called trolls for pointing out the fallacy of someone's baseless argument. You can't name the virus, because it doesn't exist. NO virus exists in the wild that runs on current Mac OS X. There has never been a virus in the wild documented anywhere that runs on Leopard or Snow Leopard. Yet, you claim you found one. You can't provide one fact (not minutia, but the most important fact) to prove your false claim, so you resort to name-calling. How mature! :rolleyes:

Hey man, like I said, I can't back it up with any proof. If you don't believe me, that's fine! No proof, so...assume I'm lying, I don't care.

He's not trolling actually, you are. Back up your statements with facts, otherwise you're full of it.

Your program probably detected something, but it wasn't a virus.

Cool story, bro! Read above.
 
Then how come Google have switched from Windows and gone to OS X and Linux then Einstein?

because they are not listening at the archipellago trolling on this forum :D

Hey man, like I said, I can't back it up with any proof. If you don't believe me, that's fine! No proof, so...assume I'm lying, I don't care.

The matter is not to believe or not in your words. I'm sure you are not a liar. you just don't remember exactly what was detected by the Antivirus.
There is nothing like a "Mac virus" in the wild.
 
Have faith but lock the door...

Old mac ran for years without it. However, given my increased free downloads on getting a macbook (no $ left over for software! :p)and the fact that I have to share files with the school PC ,I downloaded Clamxav. I only run it checking what's downloaded or shared from the school computer. I'm more concerned about my mac passing something on then catching something. I can just hear the PC admins coming down on the mac user with no antivirus!:rolleyes:

Funny how you rarely hear about PC viruses anymore unless there is a major meltdown. They're practically resigned to it. They only squawk about mac virus/trojan/malware because it's so rare.

Still, I find it disconcerting that it asks for my admin password if I need to add a downloaded app and put it in applications. Maybe I'll just stick all those in a separate folder. I rarely work from an admin account anymore.

The only one I risked diving in and gave priviliges too was Prey anti-theft and...well which is more likely theft or mac viruses?
 
Still, I find it disconcerting that it asks for my admin password if I need to add a downloaded app and put it in applications. Maybe I'll just stick all those in a separate folder. I rarely work from an admin account anymore.

If you are not running as an administrator on the box, then you don't have write access to /Applications. /Applications is owned by system, and the admin group is given read/write permissions. Everyone else is set to be read-only and for GOOD reason (you don't want non-admins deleting things from this folder).

For apps not being shared, there is no reason to not use ~/Applications instead and save yourself the hassle of the admin permissions dialog.
 
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