iPhone 8(+) Any 8+ users thinking of going to the XR?

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  1. ssledoux macrumors 65816

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    I had to return my XS Max because, even with making adjustments to the brightness, True Tone, etc., it was causing me to have a pretty bad headache after a fairly short time of use compared to how many times I’ve spent hours looking at my 8+ screen.

    I’m not opposed to keeping what I have - it’s certainly a great phone - but I am toying with maybe getting the XR because I think the in-between size might be nice. Though I’ve never had much trouble with my pluses, and I knew I didn’t want to go to an X or XS due to the size, I kinda like that the XR would be a middle ground.

    Anyone else making this change? If so, what is drawing you to it?

    If not, I’d love your reasons as well.

    Thanks!
     
  2. tonybarnaby macrumors 65816

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    Same situation as you in regards to headaches. I sold my 8+, so I’m kind of between a rock and a hard place right now. Gonna give the max another few days I guess.
     
  3. vrflyer macrumors 6502

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    I'm a 7+ user and holding out for the XR after researching the good vs. bad.
     
  4. UnifiedMelody macrumors regular

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    iPhone XR should be good for many people. Unless you're a status/clout chaser or like premium iphones, but again only you can answer; is it worth 500aud for the jump in materials and oled screen?
     
  5. LaynieGorilla macrumors 6502

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    I had the same problem when the 6 and 6plus can our. I had the plus, was getting headaches and eye paint and the exchanged it for the 6. After awhile When I found out I wasn’t that content with the smaller size, I went back to the 6plus. It’s almost like my eyes had to adjust to whatever change were made between that and the five. I know it’s the same sized phone you’re having issues with but maybe you might have had to just gradually adjust. At least for 13 days of having it.
     
  6. EugW macrumors 603

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    I would suggest waiting to check out the XR in person, or at least compare your screen vs the 7 or 8. While the XR screen will be decent - same quality as 7 or 8 - it still won’t be quite as good as your 7 Plus’ screen.

    I’m on the 7 Plus too, but I’m just keeping mine for at least another year. The XR is going to the wife. She’s on a 6s and wants a bigger phone, so the XR is a perfect upgrade. Same 326 ppi pixel density, with single lens camera, and she already has 3D Touch turned off.
     
  7. Julienne macrumors member

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    If you’re not bothered with XR’s 720p display. ( it’s not even 1080p)
     
  8. tonybarnaby macrumors 65816

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    A 64gb 8+ is $699 new from apple. I believe a 64gb xr will be $749? No doubt there are plenty of reasons to opt for the xr. I needed a phone TODAY due to my awful headaches from my max, so I opted for another 8+. I’m coming around on the xr, now that I realize apple amoled screens don’t work for me. It’s a shame they didn’t take all the good things the 8+ has and add them onto the xr. It would have been worth $800 then, in my opinion.
    --- Post Merged, Sep 25, 2018 ---
    In for EugW to reply “it’s not 720p, it’s 828p”.

    :)
     
  9. GlenK macrumors 6502a

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    I have an 8+ since returning my X for the eye strain/headache issue. Now I'm planning on trying the XR. Hate giving up 3D touch all though I don't use it that much. Still have a few weeks to decide but as of now, yes I'm going to get the XR.
     
  10. Julienne macrumors member

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    Sorry. I admit posted wrong info there.

    It’s 326ppi vs 8 plus 401 ppi. Which’s low compared to 8 plus
     
  11. tonybarnaby macrumors 65816

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    I agree. I think the 8 plus would be perfect with half the bezel area. That’s what I liked most about the max was the viewing area. OLED is cool, but the lcd apple uses is top notch.
     
  12. Italianblend macrumors 68000

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    Yes I'm considering it. I think the monthly lease payment will be around the same and I'm really attracted by colorful things. Looking at blue or yellow (maybe coral).

    I have been reading up on the screen resolution stuff and I'm pretty convinced it won't really be noticeable to me. The displays are "retina" for a reason. It's funny how apple touts a retina display because you can't tell the difference, and then all these people are bickering over screen resolution.

    The processor is faster, screen is larger. The only thing I don't like are the black edges on the front of the phone. I wish it were still white like the older models.
     
  13. TravisPNW macrumors 6502a

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    Nope... not upgrading. None of the new phones are a must have. The hardware upgrades are minimal (yes, minimal) over the 8 Plus. The cameras make no difference to me because I have a dedicated one for that. My OLED TV makes for an amazing home theater... but it's not a must have on my phone right now.

    230 of 256GB remaining on my 8 Plus. Screen size is perfect. Touch ID is still great. It's still performing like it did on Day 1... and it's halfway paid off. Next year I'll have a paid off phone that I can sell and put towards an upgrade... (hopefully not the iPhone XI Super Duper Max II or a similar stupid name that Apple hopefully won't use)

    So yeah... no reason I can see to upgrade. I used to be one of those every year people but with phone tech so advanced nowadays it's not necessary.
     
  14. Technarchy macrumors 604

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    Passing for now. Maybe next year. The experience and features I actually care about are 95% the same so that XS Max price premium is not justified IMHO.
     
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    And really high compared to the iPad air 2, which despite the lower PPI, is renowned for having an amazing screen.
     
  16. Hal~9000 macrumors 68020

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    Only reason I’m considering the XR is because the GF needs a new phone. I’d be perfectly happy sticking with the 8+ that I have. The XR will be fantastic though and I’ll enjoy the improved camera, speed, battery life, and screen-to-body ratio :)
     
  17. ssledoux thread starter macrumors 65816

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    I think I’m toying with it more than I was originally because of the size. I love my + and I’ve had plus phones since the 6, but I admit to kinda liking dd’s new XS, although I know I don’t want to go quite that small (and obviously it wouldn’t solve the headache issues from the display either).

    The idea of having something a little smaller appeals to me, but I do think I’ll wait to play with one in store before I commit. If I do get one, I’m gonna do white with silver aluminum trim, so I highly doubt I’m after the most sought-out color. ;-p

    I’m just wondering if the changes/downgrades are things I would notice. Honestly I have no clue what 3D Touch is, and I don’t know if I even utilize the camera features that will be missing on the XR. I do use my phone camera a lot, but honestly I have no clue if I utilize all the features (honestly I’m almost positive I don’t come close).
     
  18. tonybarnaby macrumors 65816

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    The hardware upgrades aren’t minimal. The benchmark scores are not a massive difference, but going from a 5.5” lcd to a 6.5” OLED is about as big of an upgrade as you can get. Not to mention the extra ram, 7nm, 4x4 Mimo, band 71 on Tmobile, gigs lte. I miss my Max badly, but the headaches affected me too much. Love my 8+, but the Max wipes the floor with it IF you can handle the screen and not feel discomfort.
     
  19. EugW, Sep 25, 2018
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    I'm giving the wife the XR. I'm keeping my 7+, mainly because of the 7+'s 401 ppi screen and the two-lens camera, and because the 7+ is fast enough.


    Agreed. I have an OLED TV too - LG 65" C8, and it is glorious. For a phone, I don't really care that much. OLED is nice but not a must have.

    I just cleaned out my iPhone so I'm under 64 GB now, but I'm often at about the 85 GB usage range, so 128 GB is perfect for me. Unfortunately, there is no 128 GB option for the Max, or the 8 Plus for that matter. For those who don't need 256 GB, the 128 GB XR is actually cheaper than the 256 GB 8 Plus.

    My wife is well below 64 GB right now, but again it's because I just cleaned out her phone. Again, 128 GB is the sweet spot, especially considering it's only CAD$70 or US$50 more than the 64 GB model.


    The extra vertical resolution is definitely nice, but I don't see the extra RAM going from 3 to 4 GB as that big of a deal, at least in the next year or two. This is not the situation like with the 6 Plus --> 6s Plus where RAM was doubled from 1 GB to 2 GB. 1 GB back then was already limiting, and 2 GB made quite a noticeable difference. Now we're talking 3 GB vs 4 GB, and 3 GB is very decent for iOS 12.

    So even with the RAM difference, and the vastly faster SoC in the Max, side by side for what I use the phone the most for - internet access - there really isn't a huge difference in performance. Probably the main reason here is because rendering times on the 7 Plus have reached that performance threshold which most people (or at least I) think is good enough, and as I've suggested elsewhere, now we're bottlenecked by internet speeds and server speeds.

    As for the OLED, see above. I just don't see it as being critical on a phone, mainly because its main advantage of beautiful blacks is lost in a bright room. Most of the time my phone usage is with the lights on or in daytime. In dim light OLED definitely has a bigger advantage, but I suspect for a lot of people it's just not that important. And as mentioned, I say that as an OLED fan, one of the comparatively few people out there that actually spent the extra money to get a large OLED TV.

    The main advantage of the Max's screen over the XR's screen is the higher pixel density. Text on the Max is comparably crisp to the Plus, and both can be perceptively crisper than the XR if at a close enough viewing distance, esp. if the user knows what to look for.

    For me, the main advantages of the of the Max over the XR are:

    1) Higher pixel density.
    2) Two-lens camera with more flexible portrait mode.

    For me, that's not worth 57% more in cost. The better modem is arguably important for some users though I agree. As for 3D Touch, I hate it, so I'm glad it's gone. I just hope Apple removes 3D Touch across the board in 2019, so we can finally have a completely consistent UI design approach across all iPhone models going forward.

    Bottom line: The Max is a beautiful phone. Aside from the PWM flicker that affects some people, it's no doubt superior to the 7 Plus, 8 Plus, and XR. However, IMO, while it's better, it's not 57% better than the XR. The XR is the much, much better value for most people, and that's what my wife is going to get.
     
  20. tonybarnaby macrumors 65816

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    I am very curious how the 3 new phones would have sold if all 3 were available at launch.

    $599 - iPhone 8 64gb
    $699 - iPhone 8+ 64gb
    $749 - iPhone xr
    $999 - iPhone xs
    $1099- iPhone xs max

    I would expect the best selling phone to be the xr, followed by the max, then xs, then 8+ and finally the 8. I don’t think the 8 will really sell many more units. It’s the cheapest way to get a new iPhone, but most people would probably rather pay an extra $150 to get the xr. It’s a shame it didn’t work out like that. I’m sure plenty of people who bought the xs would have been happy to save $250 and get the xr, so apple most likely has maximized their profit yet again. I’m curious to see how well the 8 and 8+ sell, since they are 4 year old looking phones. I love mine, but I don’t like flashy things or to show off. Bezels will cost me some street cred with the younger crowd for sure.
     
  21. EugW macrumors 603

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    DigiTimes stated that the expected sales as of November are as follows.

    XR - >50%
    Max - 20%
    Everything else - <30%

    Indeed, early analyst reports are stating that the Max is selling about 3-4X as much as the XS.

    The Max is my favourite phone too, but I think it's not a great value since it's so damn expensive.
     
  22. ssledoux thread starter macrumors 65816

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    LOL - thank goodness I’m pretty limited with my street cred as it is, so bezels don’t matter much to me. I agree though, that the XS probably wouldn’t have done as well had the XR come out at the same time. Upgrading later in the cycle definitely screws you up for next year’s IUP upgrade at launch, and I honestly think that matters for some people (it has mattered to me in the past, although I’m getting over it).

    I’m curious to see the XR in person. I think the screen is gorgeous on the XS AND the XS Max (especially the Max due to sheer size), but honestly, my LCD is great, and even side my side, there just isn’t THAT much difference (to ME) in the overall quality of the images. I know others don’t feel the same.

    I think the XR is gonna be a nice phone for the money, but whether it can top my 8+ IDK. I am sure in some ways it would be an improvement, and in others a downgrade. I guess I’ll just have to wait and see it to make up my mind.
     
  23. EugW macrumors 603

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    The best way to see the OLED's advantages are with the room lights turned down. However, that's not how most of us use our phones.
     
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