Any chance the refurb 24" is actually a new machine?

urbanskywalker

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I notice on the Canadian Apple store there are 24" refurbed imacs (white version) for $1589. Prior to the update I had looked for weeks for a refurbed 24" but there was only 20". After the update there is suddenly refurbed 24" machines. Is there any chance the refurb 24" is actually a new machine?

I am trying to decide if I should get the old or new 24" Imac. I am a student, so with there is only about a $70 dollar saving (that's with selling the ipod) over the new one. However if the refurbished is actually just a new machine, I could factor that into my mental gymnastics.

Thanks
 

urbanskywalker

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Did you check the specifications? It's more then likely only the older 24" iMac.
Yes it is the older imac, as in not the new mirror mac. My question is: Could it still be a new unit that they just put in the refurb store?
 

paetrick

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I am trying to decide if I should get the old or new 24" Imac. I am a student, so with there is only about a $70 dollar saving (that's with selling the ipod) over the new one.

Thanks
Get the new one, -> Only go with the old if you live outside in your backyard, the new mac is SOO much nicer than the older mac :)
 

teflon

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If it's only $70 difference, I'd pick the new one. You get a bigger hd and you can expand the ram to 4gb instead of 3gb. Also, it'll have better resale level. Unless you have a problem with the glossy screen or prefer the old design.
 

mrmjd

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If it's only $70 difference, I'd pick the new one. You get a bigger hd and you can expand the ram to 4gb instead of 3gb. Also, it'll have better resale level. Unless you have a problem with the glossy screen or prefer the old design.
I have seen some great discounts of new old gen iMacs, with about 300 pounds off the price a month ago!!
 

RubberShoes

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I wouldn't do it

When the new Macbook Pros came out all of a sudden there were a bunch of refurbished models of the last generation. I bought one and thought that it would most likely be just a new one. WRONG, got it and there were little scratches and a small dent on the left panel. Turned it on to find absolutely no sound, after 5 minutes on the phone with Apple support and 20 minutes later I was at the Apple Store being told I could either DOA it or have it take 10 days to be repaired.

So I wouldn't take that chance with your money, Just buy a new one and you'll be glad with the updated specs, newer look, and expandability to 4GB of RAM to even things out.

But I do know how you feel, did you try macmall.com? They sell new guaranteed previous generation machines for just a little more than what you would pay from the refurbished section, and all of my friends have gotten their mail in rebates so don't worry about getting ripped off.

Best of luck, hope you get what you want :)
 

roland.g

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My guess is all the NEW old white ones will be dumped through MacMall, MacZones, etc. since they usually sell older models for a few hundred off. My guess is Apple will keep x on hand for warranty replacements too.
 

jf8

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"Refurbished" might mean that someone took it home, opened the box, decided they didn't like it / wanted something else, and returned it an hour later (in other words, basically new)

It could also mean that it was a year old, got banged up pretty badly, sat under a heat source and overheated, etc... (in other words, very refurbished)
 

techlover828

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"Refurbished" might mean that someone took it home, opened the box, decided they didn't like it / wanted something else, and returned it an hour later (in other words, basically new)

It could also mean that it was a year old, got banged up pretty badly, sat under a heat source and overheated, etc... (in other words, very refurbished)
ya, its just kind of the luck of the draw.
 

roland.g

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"Refurbished" might mean that someone took it home, opened the box, decided they didn't like it / wanted something else, and returned it an hour later (in other words, basically new)
When that happens at an Apple Store, they call it Refreshed and it is usually sold at 10-15% less. Not sure how Apple Online handles returns that are not defective.
 

nkawtg72

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I notice on the Canadian Apple store there are 24" refurbed imacs (white version) for $1589.
Thanks
there's your answer. without seeing it myself, you say it DOES indicate that it's the white version. if that's the case, there's no chance in h$ll that it's a new one in drag.

i see similar posts on US online store. something else you can look at to confirm which generation it is, is to look at the graphics card detail. the previous used Nvidia.

a previous post warns to NOT buy a refurb from mac that you will be in danger of not getting a good computer and Apple will hang you out to dry. I DO NOT KNOW HIS FULL STORY, but i can assure you as good as i know the sun rises in the east, that ALL refurb'd CPUs come with the exact same 1year Applecare coverage that a brand new one has, and they also qualify for the 3 year extension. you buy one that has issues, they will take care of them. as for that persons 10 day wait, it is my understanding that some of the stores still have to send off the laptops for repair and can't handle that in house. my stores here in Atlanta, GA, can do all repairs in house. if they have to order parts they'll even call me when they come in to let me know i can bring the laptop in to get fixed, so i don't have to leave for so long

i've helped friends/family with the purchase of dozens of refurb'd CPUs and they have been as reliable, if not more, than a brand new one.

good luck to you
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information on how Apple handles returns/refurbs/etc


Online Sales:
if someone purchases online then changes their mind and returns it. Apple will "refresh" it and sell it as a refurb in the online store if it was opened. if it was unopened they will sell it in the Clearance Items section as an unopened item.

if someone returns a cpu and apple replaces it with a new one, the damaged one will be refurb'd and sold as a refurb in the online store

apple releases an update (replacement) to a current product line. the "old" product line will be removed from circulation and sold in the special deals section of the online store under the heading Clearance Items (unopened box)

In Store sales:
Someone buys and returns unopened box. i have seen that sold "as new" with no indication that it has previously been sold, and i've also seen it sold as a clearance item "unopened box".

Someone returns an open box cpu. the store will typically charge a restock fee, refresh it and sell it as a "refreshed" cpu in store.

apple replaces a problem cpu with a new one, the old one WILL NOT be refurb'd in store but sent back to apple to be refurb'd. it then will appear on the online store as a refurb'd cpu.