Any doctor to answer ?

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  1. Bosechris macrumors member

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    Hello.

    Is there any doctor who could answer me?
    To you think that Applewatch could reçue life of someone.
    We have heard story about people who died.
    For example :
    - someone feel little painful in the chest and after 2 ou 3 days, he died.
    - someone who is tired after work, he sleep. When he wake up, he still feel tired and he died.

    Do you think that in such case, the applewatch could have told him to go to hospital?

    When can an Applewatch could rescue someone?

    Thanks.
     
  2. maflynn Moderator

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    Maybe, but if someone is ignoring pain in their chest for days on end, will they pay attention to any watch notifications? Apple is marketing the watch to do just that, whether it actually does is unknown at the moment.
     
  3. Bosechris thread starter macrumors member

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  4. Ghost31 macrumors 68020

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    Truth. There’s actually been a lot of cases if you just search “Apple Watch saves lives on YouTube” you get a ton of hits



    Personally, the fact that I may be in a life and death situation is a big reason I have the LTE watch. It’s $10 a month, but it could be the difference between living and dying. Who knows
     
  5. RodThePlod macrumors 6502a

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    Remember, though, many heart-related abnormalities that the Watch might pick up might not be obvious to the wearer. The Watch might alert them that something's up even though they don't necessarily have chest pains, etc.
     
  6. tromboneaholic Suspended

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    I agree. I think in most (if not all) of the cases I have seen, the person had no symptoms they noticed, and it was data/alerts from the watch that prompted them to seek medical attention.
     
  7. Newtons Apple macrumors Core

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    If you have any of these symptoms, you need to contact your doctor.

    While the watch might help some people with a heart problem, there is no guarantee. I day maybe but it is still limited.
     
  8. brianric macrumors regular

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    I tend to disagree. I just recently was diagnosed with A-Fib. My condition was caught by a nurse at a blood donor center. The day before I went for that donation my Omron blood pressure monitor software was updated to show "irregular heartbeat detected" readings going back over two years. My question is how could a condition like that go undetected for two years despite repeated visits to various doctors, mind you I see my primary care four times a year and a neurologist twice a year. If I had noticed the "irregular heartbeat detected" two years ago with repeated readings I can assure you I would have mentioned something to my doctor and request an EKG and an appointment with a cardiologist. I'm lucky I had an attentive nurse at a blood donor center who potentially saved my life.
     
  9. Newtons Apple macrumors Core

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    Glad it worked for you but many things can go wrong with the heart. Someone who feels tired all the time could also have an enlarged heart or even fluid around the heart. The Apple watch is not going to help one here.

    There is NO substitute to seeing a heart doctor if you think you have a problem. Not sure if the OP was having these problems but if so, buying an Apple watch should not be the next step.
     
  10. sean000, Nov 1, 2018
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    sean000 macrumors 68000

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    I'm not a doctor, but I just read an article this morning that is relevant to this.
    https://www.wired.com/story/apples-heart-study-is-the-biggest-ever-but-with-a-catch/

    The concern is that it could lead to misdiagnosis, unnecessary tests, and overtrteatment. This is talking specifically about the Apple/Stanford study on Afib detection. It sounds like the medical community is excited about potential of studying data from such large sample sizes, but Apple is promoting the technology before anyone has determined whether or not the benefits will outweigh the potential negatives.

    As a consumer, and as someone whose family has a history of heart disease and other heart issues, I understand the concern... but I still want the technology. We know it is possible for the watch to save your life, even if the statistical likelihood of the watch saving my life is not terribly high. What is more important to me are the less tangible benefits:
    • The Apple Watch is a useful tool for keeping me more engaged with my overall health and fitness. I'm one of those people who gets a benefit out of tracking this stuff. Not everyone does.
    • I'm able to have more productive conversations with my doctor, because I have some health metrics to bring to my annual checkup, as well as to other appointments.
    • Wearing a device that can alert me to unusual changes in my heart rate and rhythm, and can potentially save my life (even if it's a slim chance), reduces my anxiety.
    Misdiagnosis, unnecessary tests, and overtreatment are always possibilities whether you are wearing tech like this or not. Sometimes the culprit is too little information instead of too much. Of course, like you, I'm very interested in what cardiologists and other medical professionals think. Whether or not it's a good thing, millions of people will be able to monitor their heart rate and run an ECG on demand. The conversation needs to switch from "Should we?" to "Here's how to use this technology wisely."
     
  11. Mabus51 macrumors 65816

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    It’s up to you to go see a doctor. The Apple Watch can’t diagnose you.
     
  12. DontGetTheCheese macrumors regular

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    Not a doctor but I actually went to a cardiologist today and we talked about this stuff. I think the answer is yes because they are going to get so much better, especially when BP hits the market. I’m wearing a monitor today which will call the heart doctor if it catches an abnormality of some kind.

    I have a Garmin, so 1-year of my pulse every 2 minutes, which is a lot of data. My pulse rate has steadily declined over the last few months showing a resting rate in the high 40’s, which may be fine, probably is fine, but I let him know.

    I also had a weird night last night. I have a new BP monitor and it went high, 150/mid 90’s which is way higher than what I typically see. It also registered a AFib/Arrythmia. The problem I faced is no symptoms. I looked up the BP and the recommendations seemed to be, wait it out, and since I was seeing the guy today, I waited it out. BP was still a bit high in the office but a lot more normal, in fact the diastolic was normal.

    I think the initial reads may have been bad, especially the AFib, but by the time those got through, I couldn’t wind down enough to get a normal reading. So, hopefully, the tech took me sideways....

    Anyways, I think it’s still a judgement call, at best. I think it’ll get to the point that you’ll get virtually full-time monitoring and it’ll be accurate. I would also be leery of the lives saved stories. It’s kind of BS right now because you get things like intern monitors heart with Apple Watch, which causes me to think so what. But the future, the future holds good things, i think.
     

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