Any Finder replacement or complement that works?

Discussion in 'macOS Sierra (10.12)' started by micke1967, Sep 23, 2016.

  1. micke1967 macrumors regular

    Nov 1, 2012
    Hi I have had Xtra Finder for some years now but it doesnt seem to be updated so often and only crashes in Sierra.
    I also have Pathfinder but it has its flaws as well...I have lost a lot of data over the years where I did "cut" and "paste" and got some irc errors ending in data lost.
    Also I think the interface isnt as nice as Finder really. Even though it has a lot of xtra functions.

    My main needs that I dont see in the Finder is "Cut" and also "dual windows" and perhaps coloured folders in the sidebar and other cosmetic stuff so it aint so much which is why the Xtra finder has worked so well.

    I did look at Total Finder but its my understanding (or is that wrong??) that it doent get updated anymore??

    So what would be the best options for getting a better Finder??

    And will Apple ever really try to improve the Finder?? to me that would be a definate selling point for new macOS version since its so obvious and so needed...
    Best regards Micael
  2. m4v3r1ck macrumors 68020


    Nov 2, 2011
    The Netherlands
    I'm also loving the use of TotaFinder! They released a macOS Sierra compatible version, BUT as stated on their website and in het update release notes, you have to DISABLE SIP for TotalFinder to work. I would also like to know what the best replacement is.

  3. X3n0n macrumors member


    Jul 24, 2016
    No need to disable SIP.

    It's a bit more complex than just double click the installer.

    You need to install it normally, then reboot in recovery you enter some command in Terminal and it's done.
  4. m4v3r1ck macrumors 68020


    Nov 2, 2011
    The Netherlands
    Hi, thanks for correcting me! Totally missed that one, but needs some more indepth tweaking indeed. Will have a solid read then, before I install.

    At least that's somehow to keep TotalFinder! ;-))

  5. steve23094 macrumors 68020


    Apr 23, 2013
    When you say 'Cut', do you mean cut and paste files? Because you can do that in Finder. Select the file, right click, copy, navigate to the designated folder, right click, then hold down the option key and you will see copy change to move file.
  6. jdasikainen macrumors 6502


    Mar 4, 2016
    Bald Knob Arkansas
    ya in macOS its called move instead of cut and paste.
  7. Gudi, Sep 23, 2016
    Last edited: Sep 23, 2016

    Gudi macrumors 68030


    May 3, 2013
    Berlin, Berlin
    When you cut a file and never paste it anywhere else, where is it? In Windows the icon of a cut file becomes translucent to indicate it's in a weird state of being there and not being there at the same time (like Schrödingers cat). Depending on what you do next, the translucent icon will either disappear or become opaque again. To Be or not to Be: That is the question! Which can only be answered after you've triggered paste on another folder or marked something else for copying. Who knows in which state the file system is in the meantime?

    copy-and-paste (Ctrl-C Ctrl-V)
    cut-and-paste (Ctrl-X Ctrl-V)

    This sort of behaviour is absolutely horrible from a good UI standpoint. On a Mac you never encounter such undefined situations, because the decision on whether you want to keep or delete the original file is deferred to the end of the operation. Instead of cut-and-paste you get a copy-and-move command, which is closely related to copy-and-paste. In fact when you drag-and-drop a file on the same volume by default its a copy-and-move operation, but if you drag-and-drop it to or from an external usb drive the default is to copy-and-paste. In both cases holding down the ⌘-key while dragging triggers the other operation.

    copy-and-paste (⌘C ⌘V)
    copy-and-move (⌘C ⌥⌘V)

    In the Finder only ⌘⌫ deletes something. You can't ⌘X a file on a Mac. But you can ⌘X cut text during word processing, the marked text disappears immediately and temporarily continues to live on the clipboard. It doesn't become translucent until you have decided what you want to do with it. If you don't ⌘V paste the clipboard content before it is overwritten, cutting is the same as deleting. But if you do paste it in time, cutting text is the same as moving text. On something as critical as a filesystem you don't ever want people to wonder if a file was moved or deleted? Or rather moved or not moved as even Ctrl-X in the Windows Explorer never really cuts something from the file system, it just marks a file for possible movement in the near future. Silly! File management is not the same as text editing. Cutting has no business in the Finder. And the Clipboard metaphor makes no sense for file movements.

    PS: As for dual windows, just put two finder windows next to each other in split screen mode.

    PPS: For coloured folders use tags to highlight and tag the important stuff in your file system.

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