I bought the Tough Armor with kickstand but don't have the phone yet. When the kickstand is in the closed position it snaps into the case nicely. I don't worry that it's going to come loose and fall off (even with no phone). If you have the kickstand out and no phone in the case then yes, it will fall out VERY easily. I'm fairly confident it will work well enough once I have my phone in the case though.I know Spigen has one but the reviews indicate that the kickstand piece is flimsy and falls off. Any others out there?