Thanks I 'll think about it, since if I can verify that it's something on my ipad and the jb works on a restored ipad, then I 'll have to restore from back up again because it 'll take me far too long to set up all apps and settings again (my app list is way way too large and out of hand at the moment, to just choose and reorganize in itunes and folders...lol.) and I d have lost the jb... I guess I'll just redownload the jb, try deleting a few things, and retry to jb, it might have been an issue of space since I was too low on space when I first tried installing the jb.