Any plan to make iMessage more like BBM?

Discussion in 'iOS 6' started by blackbirdz, Jul 23, 2012.

  1. blackbirdz macrumors member

    Apr 2, 2012
    Have iPhone, so gotta love iMessage. I found that iMessage is more like SMS over wifi. Is there any plan to make iMessage more like BBM - when a contact update his/her picture, it'll also update in my phone? So it's a bit more social network.
  2. mrsir2009 macrumors 604


    Sep 17, 2009
    Melbourne, Australia
    What, you mean instant-messaging-like profile images? :)
  3. Zcott macrumors 68020

    Oct 18, 2009
    Belfast, Ireland
  4. Polekat macrumors regular


    Jul 13, 2010
    I'd like to see it work more reliably. Sometimes it won't send, sometimes it will. Sometimes it says delivered and isn't and other times it says it wasn't delivered but it was.
  5. Julien macrumors G4


    Jun 30, 2007
    Little OT but maybe related: Oddly (maybe related to ML release) Messages has stopped sending from my Mac but sends fine from all my iOS devices. I get a red exclamation pint next to the message. Is anyone able to send a message from their Mac?
  6. JetBlack7 macrumors 68020


    May 14, 2011
    If people want BBM get a Blackberry. If they want customisation like an Android phone, get an Android.

    This forum is about Apple.
  7. StumpyBloke macrumors 6502


    Apr 21, 2012
    If people want to ask a question or suggest something, don't come on here it would seem!
  8. bigjnyc macrumors 603


    Apr 10, 2008
    I think Apple took a different approach, they baked imessage into the SMS function so that the user wouldn't even have to think about it. Just send it and let the system determine whether it's sms or imessage. BBM is a different approach, first of all its a separate app from sms and second there's a lot more tinkering involved by the user (setting up profile, adding picture, etc...) So I don't think Apple will be going this route, unless they decide to change their strategy down the road.
  9. brylliant macrumors regular


    Jul 18, 2012
    United Kingdom
    iMessage is a fancy free SMS sent to other iOS users. That's basically what it is. But iMessage and BBM are two completely different communication platforms. I like the way Apple has done it. The user doesn't have to think about adding friends or contacts, just let the iPhone choose between an SMS or iMessage. It just works.
  10. solarguy17 macrumors 6502a

    Sep 10, 2007
    Well given that iMessage also send pictures and videos, its more like MMS that sidesteps the network charging for text messages.
    And besides, I think in iOS5, you can have your contact profile pictures updated with the current Facebook profile picture...

    Why would I want an iMEssage social network? Apple tried that and failed already with Ping
  11. thewitt macrumors 68020


    Sep 13, 2011
    No one on this forum knows Apple's plan for iMessage...
  12. Kennysmoothx macrumors newbie

    Jul 22, 2012
    iMessage on ML has things such as away messages and icons, making it feel more like AIM and BBM.

    An instant messenger, as oppose to the traditional SMS type iMessage we find on our iPhones.

    I would't be surprised if they ported the icon and away message feature to iOS in the future, it would certainly add to the experience.
  13. faroZ06, Jul 24, 2012
    Last edited: Jul 24, 2012

    faroZ06 macrumors 68040


    Apr 3, 2009
    But I thought SMS actually worked more than 50% of the time :p

    I must say that iMessage is a huge disappointment. It was a great idea and a great way to start chiseling away at the tyranny of SMS, but it's slow and unreliable. And it doesn't support Lion or Snow Leopard!!! :mad:
  14. MattInOz macrumors 68030


    Jan 19, 2006
    I think Apple would take a different approach with this and build it in as part of iCloud Addressbook syncing improvements. Have a Public Me Card associated with your account so if you change any details including the profile pic it would get pushed to others who've received your card in the past. So after a iMessage/Facetime contact has been made it would ask if you want to exchange Address Cards, from then on updates would be automatic and system wide.
  15. MrBudgie macrumors newbie

    Jul 18, 2012
    I think some of the trouble people get with iMessage is that there are certain criteria that need to be satisfied on both the sender and the receivers end. With an SMS you hit send and let the network providers servers do the rest, with iMessage it must first check that the receiver is able to receive the message, if they are not it auto retries with an SMS.

    SMS reliability is only dependant on you - If you're not connected to your providers network, it ain't getting sent.

    iMessage reliability is dependant on you being connected to Apple, and the recipient being connected to Apple. If either of you are not, the SMS route is attempted. There's twice as many peoples status to consider - doubling the risk of the message not being sent via iMessage.

    And I thought iMessage was available on mountain lion?

    EDIT: sorry, re-read your post and you didn't mention mountain lion - please ignore bad :s
  16. faroZ06 macrumors 68040


    Apr 3, 2009
    It's not just that. It sometimes takes 30 seconds to a minute to send an iMessage message for me, or it just fails to send. Since our family plan now (sadly) has unlimited SMS, I just use that now.
  17. davidnyjets macrumors 6502


    Feb 4, 2011
    Stamford, CT
    This guy knows what it's about!

  18. MrBudgie macrumors newbie

    Jul 18, 2012
    Blimey - that's a hell of a long delay. I have never had an issue like that, to be honest 90% of the time if iMessage is an option, the message is sent that way (as opposed to falling back on SMS)

    I guess people have different experience of the way it works - for some it just works (I genuinely hate saying that, but sometimes it does), and for some it mostly fails to work. I think unless you were going to use the unified iPad and mountain lion experience, turning iMessage off wouldn't affect anything other than the number of texts you pay for (don't most plans include tens of thousands now anyway?), and the colour of the bubble in the messages app.

    I think using your unlimited plan is definitely the way to go - plus, you've paid for it, you might as well use it! :)
  19. NZed macrumors 65816


    Jan 24, 2011
    Canada, Eh?
    Hey hey, although an Apple forum, there are dedicated sections to those others ;)
  20. JetBlack7 macrumors 68020


    May 14, 2011
    Easy now, i wasn't attacking anyone ;)

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