Any problems with El-Captain and Postfix/Dovecot?

Discussion in 'OS X El Capitan (10.11)' started by rachalmers, Oct 1, 2015.

  1. rachalmers macrumors member

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    Is anyone running Postfix/Dovecot, and upgraded to El-Captain? Any things of note? Is it working ok?
    I have a lot of non-standard stuff running, so am a little cautious about upgrading from Yosemite to El-Captain.
     
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    Not running the specific App, however ensure you are fully backed up, and not just with Time Machine. Personally I would hold off until 10.11 reaches the .2/.3 release this will allow time for dev`s to issue updates and to see the response to specific issues.

    If you create a system image on an external drive with SuperDuper or Carbon Copy Cloner, you can then DL the 10.11 installer, run it on the external clone, preserving your primary drive. I also turn off auto start applications, barring Apple`s own during the OS upgrade a little caution can save a lot of work.

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  3. rachalmers thread starter macrumors member

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    Good advice, thanks. I really do have to get another drive to do the SuperDuper/CCC thing. I have both actually - can never decide which is the best ! At the moment, just running with Time Machine. Which is inadequate I know.
    and I will wait until .2 or probably .3 I'm in no rush yet.
     
  4. Queen6 macrumors 603

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    Personally I use SuperDuper, don't use Time Machine, not reliable enough for my liking as a full drive restore solution. Truthfully there is absolutely no imperative to upgrade primary systems at the .0 OS release, I even know some who deliberately remain a full cycle behind, and in some respects this makes good sense, as when they do upgrade the OS is extremely solid, they still get the benefit of a major upgrade to OS X, with significantly reduced chance of issue.

    All too often it`s easy to buy the hype and push the button to upgrade, what one should really do is consider the pro`s and con`s first, moving from 10.10 to 10.11 will not be a revolutionary experience, especially if the current 10.10.5 has no issues. By the time 10.11.2/.3 is released the majority of the major issues will have been resolved

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  5. rachalmers thread starter macrumors member

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    I try to stay a little behind usually, but get itchy fingers as I succumb to the hype ... It's the old "I have to have it, and I have to have in NOW" syndrome.
    However - I'm in the process of moving everything from my second bay drive to an external backup, which will free up Bay2 drive where I can then put the SuperDuper! copy, Even let it run on a schedule. Or will I use CCC..? I have an idea CCC is easier to use in terms of the interface, but I'll have to relook at it all in a while. Haven't used either in a while.

    In any case, I don't see anyone replying about any problems with Postscript/Dovecot so either no one is running them, or no one is having problems. Or. it just hasn't surfaced yet as having problems.
    I am expecting problems though, because I'm not using the standard Apple installation of Postfix, nor Apache for that matter. Same directories, just my own build to get the options I needed.
     
  6. lstone19 macrumors member

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    Rachalmers, I know I'm coming to this three months later. Did you ever upgrade? I do have my own built Postfix running on El Capitan. Assuming you install it into "user" space such as /usr/local/, you should have no problems except you will need to turn SIP (rootless) off so that Postfix can install its version of /usr/sbin/sendmail in place of the Apple provided version that points to the Apple provided version of Postfix.

    I no longer use Dovecot after moving mail for my domain from my Macintosh to a 3rd party mail provider (Postfix is used to relay locally originating system emails to my mail provider) but I do not expect it would have any problems, again assuming you install it into "user" space.

    For both of these, you probably will get better support from their support mailing lists. For postfix, go to http://www.postfix.org/lists.html (the #2 Postfix developer (Viktor) is a bit of a Mac guy). For dovecot, http://www.dovecot.org/mailinglists.html.
     
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    I don't run dovecot on my Mac, but I do always set up Postfix, at the very least to have a fully functional smtp server on the local machine that can be used in a variety of ways. I also don't "upgrade" versions of OSX, but rather do a clean install. Since I've saved all of my config files for things like Postfix, it is typically a snap to get it running again on the new OSX. This was the case with El Capitan. My /etc/postfix files (main.cf, master.cf, and aliases) all dropped in the new installation without any issues. The main issue with El Capitan is that if you want the master process listening all the time, you need to modify /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/org.postfix.master.plist. On El Capitan, you will need to disable SIP long enough to do this, as it lives in a SIP-protected location. I did this right after installling 10.11.0, and the subsequent upgrades to .1 and .2 have not overwritten my changes to that file.
     

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