Any real alternatives to Outlook for Mac?

asf1966

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I've been searching for an alternative to Outlook for Mac. It seems quite strange that no firm has entered that space. Perhaps I'm missing something?

Thoughts?

asf1966
 

BaldiMac

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You'll need to list your requirements. Otherwise, the obvious answer is Mail, iCal and Address Book.
 

asf1966

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Catagorizing contacts in Address Book

I would like to switch my Windows based computer to an Apple product. One of my hestitations has been the inability (perhaps my-own) to create catagories for my contacts. I know I can create groups, but I'd prefer to be able to catagories all of my contcts. I have 30+ catagories.

Am I missing something or perhaps making a big deal out of nothing?
 

GGJstudios

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I would like to switch my Windows based computer to an Apple product. One of my hestitations has been the inability (perhaps my-own) to create catagories for my contacts. I know I can create groups, but I'd prefer to be able to catagories all of my contcts. I have 30+ catagories.

Am I missing something or perhaps making a big deal out of nothing?
How are your categories different than groups? You can create your own groups in Address Book.
 

asf1966

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I use MS Outlook 2010. Groups are broader classes/designations within my overall OL address book. I have 3 groups, they are work, contacts and golf. Within each of these groups, I have people catagorized in different ways. In Contacts, I have friends and family, neighborhood, personal vendors and others related to my personal life. Work is comprised of the names of people I deal with or have done work for. Examples of catagories within the Work Group are: Portfolio Management, Capital Markets, HeathCare, Professional Service, Real Estate etc. The last Group Golf, is a list of courses I've played and the people I've golfed with.

When looking at the Contacts page in Outlook, I have My Contacts and the three groups referenced above are indented and beneath this heading. These groups sync with my iphone and are grouped in the same way with the exception that the contacts on my iPhone are not broken down in to the catagories above. They are only grouped.

asf1966
 

GGJstudios

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I use MS Outlook 2010. Groups are broader classes/designations within my overall OL address book. I have 3 groups, they are work, contacts and golf. Within each of these groups, I have people catagorized in different ways. In Contacts, I have friends and family, neighborhood, personal vendors and others related to my personal life. Work is comprised of the names of people I deal with or have done work for. Examples of catagories within the Work Group are: Portfolio Management, Capital Markets, HeathCare, Professional Service, Real Estate etc. The last Group Golf, is a list of courses I've played and the people I've golfed with.

When looking at the Contacts page in Outlook, I have My Contacts and the three groups referenced above are indented and beneath this heading. These groups sync with my iphone and are grouped in the same way with the exception that the contacts on my iPhone are not broken down in to the catagories above. They are only grouped.

asf1966
As a work-around, while it won't be indented, you can create groups such as:
Work
Work - Portfolio Management
Work - Capital Markets
Work - HealthCare
A contact in "Work - HealthCare" could also be a member of "Work"

You could also try using Outlook for Mac, which may do exactly what you need.
 

asf1966

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You'll need to list your requirements. Otherwise, the obvious answer is Mail, iCal and Address Book.
I use MS Outlook and I have approx. 2000 contacts. These contacts are designated either Work, Contacts (personal) and Golf. The work group is comprised of work contacts broken down in to catagories (sub-groups) based on the respective contact's industry - Portfolio Management, Health Care, Real Estate, Capital Markets etc. The group Contacts are catagorized by friends and family, neighbors, personal vendors and others associated with my personal life. Golf is a group comprised of courses and players.

I'd like to be able to maintain the groups I have without losing the catagorization within each group.

Thanks-asf1966
 

asf1966

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Thanks GG.

Outlook for Mac isn't all that great, but I may have to give it a another look. Also, what does Apple do to list their employees. Surely they don't use the native address book. Think about how many departments and sub-departments they have. Is all the contact info associated with their employees just dumped into the address book, I doubt it.

Perhaps they use OL;).

asf1966
 

GGJstudios

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Thanks GG.

Outlook for Mac isn't all that great, but I may have to give it a another look. Also, what does Apple do to list their employees. Surely they don't use the native address book. Think about how many departments and sub-departments they have. Is all the contact info associated with their employees just dumped into the address book, I doubt it.

Perhaps they use OL;).
I don't have a clue what they use, but my guess is any large organization probably isn't using Address Book. It seems to work well for what it's designed for, but is obviously lacking in features for a large organization with complex demands.
 

blodwyn

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I use MS Outlook and I have approx. 2000 contacts. These contacts are designated either Work, Contacts (personal) and Golf. The work group is comprised of work contacts broken down in to catagories (sub-groups) based on the respective contact's industry - Portfolio Management, Health Care, Real Estate, Capital Markets etc. The group Contacts are catagorized by friends and family, neighbors, personal vendors and others associated with my personal life. Golf is a group comprised of courses and players.

I'd like to be able to maintain the groups I have without losing the catagorization within each group.

Thanks-asf1966
A free alternative:
With the standard OS X Address Book you can create a smart group based on the contents of the "Notes" field. So you could add keywords to the notes fields for your contacts, and create as many smart groups as you want. These smart groups can be used to send emails to all contacts in the group. This is how I've been managing my contacts for quite a while, and I find it to be much more flexible than a rigid hierarchy. Doing it for 2000 contacts would be a bummer, but you could maybe automate by exporting your current contact list to a CSV, adding the keywords en masse, and then importing to Address Book.
 

asf1966

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A free alternative:
With the standard OS X Address Book you can create a smart group based on the contents of the "Notes" field. So you could add keywords to the notes fields for your contacts, and create as many smart groups as you want. These smart groups can be used to send emails to all contacts in the group. This is how I've been managing my contacts for quite a while, and I find it to be much more flexible than a rigid hierarchy. Doing it for 2000 contacts would be a bummer, but you could maybe automate by exporting your current contact list to a CSV, adding the keywords en masse, and then importing to Address Book.


Thank you

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What makes you unhappy with outlook?
My Windows machine is showing its age and I am hoping to jump to Mac.
 

mikedavis44

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This is an SOS to any business users of email on OS X.

I currently have a few different business email accounts I use within outlook (and a calendar for each).

Outlook now runs cripplingly slow on Mountain Lion and I just want to be done with it.

The one major factor that ties me to it is that Outlook allows me to send meeting requests from each of the different email accounts that I've created, so I can send a request from the relevant email account, depending on who I'm sending to.

As far as I understand it mail/ical only allow you to send from the 'default' email account that's been set up, which is really restrictive for my use of email.

Is there any workaround that anyone knows of for this or some other solution?

In hope!

Mike
 

flynz4

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This is an SOS to any business users of email on OS X.

I currently have a few different business email accounts I use within outlook (and a calendar for each).

Outlook now runs cripplingly slow on Mountain Lion and I just want to be done with it.

The one major factor that ties me to it is that Outlook allows me to send meeting requests from each of the different email accounts that I've created, so I can send a request from the relevant email account, depending on who I'm sending to.

As far as I understand it mail/ical only allow you to send from the 'default' email account that's been set up, which is really restrictive for my use of email.

Is there any workaround that anyone knows of for this or some other solution?

In hope!

Mike
I use Outlook for Mac at work, and Apple Mail for personal. Apple Mail lets you choose the account email is sent from. Selection should be immediately above the message body when composing an email.

/Jim
 

nickcage49

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Outlook

What makes you unhappy with outlook?
For me I don't like Outlook for Mac because it doesn't sync with iCloud. Since I have all apple products, I need something that works with iCloud. I wish Microsoft and Apple would play nice for once.

I don't like any of the Apple apps, mail, address book or calendar. They all lack features and I prefer something that's integrated like Outlook.

Is there anything like that out there???
 

buddyspencer

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For me I don't like Outlook for Mac because it doesn't sync with iCloud. Since I have all apple products, I need something that works with iCloud. I wish Microsoft and Apple would play nice for once.

I don't like any of the Apple apps, mail, address book or calendar. They all lack features and I prefer something that's integrated like Outlook.

Is there anything like that out there???
If you don't like the Apple apps... Go with Google Apps or any other product (maybe exchange) - this will work perfectly with Outlook ;)
 

nickcage49

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Google

If you don't like the Apple apps... Go with Google Apps or any other product (maybe exchange) - this will work perfectly with Outlook ;)
My issue with Google is, every time I travel it makes me change my password. It becomes a real PITA.

Also, will iCloud work with Google Apps?