Any sign of HDR app updates for the 2021 4K ATV?

[hancox]

Still no working "live" HDR tv, and no announcement pertaining to it on the 2022 model. Ridiculous! Same content available in HDR on same app stack.

 

[satcomer]

Still no working "live" HDR tv, and no announcement pertaining to it on the 2022 model. Ridiculous! Same content available in HDR on same app stack.At least inAmerica the TV towers just this year finalized the new transmission standard for $K steaming! Don't expect cable stations to be so quick!

 

[hancox]

This is streaming live, not cable.

FOX Sports, for example. Doesn't work on their app. Doesn't work on FUBO or YTTV, either. Same content on FireTV, GoogleTV, or Roku works. All of this, despite Apple touting HDR in the 2021 TV keynote.

 

[verdi1987]

This is streaming live, not cable.

FOX Sports, for example. Doesn't work on their app. Doesn't work on FUBO or YTTV, either. Same content on FireTV, GoogleTV, or Roku works. All of this, despite Apple touting HDR in the 2021 TV keynote.

HDR works on YTTV, but you have to set Apple TV to 4K HDR. YTTV doesn’t support dynamic range matching yet, although YouTube recently added it.

 

[hancox]

Still no progress on this front, from what i can see. Apple delivers vaporware yet again.

 

[priitv8]

You should complain to FOX Sports Interactive, it is their software.

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[hancox]

You should complain to FOX Sports Interactive, it is their software.

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Their software works on every other platform. As does YTTV. Guess what the differentiator is?

 

[priitv8]

Their software works on every other platform. As does YTTV. Guess what the differentiator is?

Dunno. Does Apple prevent them from writing proper tvOS software?
Are they not willing or not capable?
Looking at what google has done with their YT client, I would say they conciously do not want to follow tvOS UI/UX rules and want to keep user experience better/more coherent on chromecast.

 

[bozzykid]

Their software works on every other platform. As does YTTV. Guess what the differentiator is?

YTTV works just fine with Fox 4K so what are you trying to say exactly?

 

[hancox]

YTTV works just fine with Fox 4K so what are you trying to say exactly?

No live TV app works seamlessly with HDR. Not Fubo. Not YTTV. Not Fox. They all require pseudo-workarounds, which may or may not actually work, to view HDR content as expected.

It's been clear for a while that Apple is doing something weird with live HDR. My (reasonable, IMHO) hope was that a keynote item specifically citing HDR *and* Fox Sports would result in some kind of improvement. Nothing has been seen yet, and it's now been years (and another ATV hardware revision to boot!)

 

[bozzykid]

No live TV app works seamlessly with HDR. Not Fubo. Not YTTV. Not Fox. They all require pseudo-workarounds, which may or may not actually work, to view HDR content as expected.

Huh? YTTV automatically switches to HDR for 4k HDR content. What workaround are you talking about?

 

[hancox]

Huh? YTTV automatically switches to HDR for 4k HDR content. What workaround are you talking about?

YTTV doesn't. Regular YouTube does. Care to confirm?

 

[bozzykid]

YTTV doesn't. Regular YouTube does. Care to confirm?

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YTTV added support almost a year ago for proper HDR switching.

 

[hancox]

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YTTV added support almost a year ago for proper HDR switching.

As a YTTV user, i have no evidence of this working, nor of any other improvements.

1) YTTV doesn't switch dynamic range on/off when selecting a known HDR broadcast
2) The equivalent FOX Sports app-based broadcast doesn't show HDR in its program guide, when it does on other platforms (and switches correctly as well)
3) ESPN-based "4K" broadcasts are limited to 1080p display resolution (note - this is independent from the broadcast resolution), only on ATV 4K. Known issue with no fix.

 

[bozzykid]

As a YTTV user, i have no evidence of this working, nor of any other improvements.

1) YTTV doesn't switch dynamic range on/off when selecting a known HDR broadcast

It literally does and has for almost a year. If it's not for you then you have a problem with your setup or have dynamic range content matching off.

 

[hancox]

It literally does and has for almost a year. If it's not for you then you have a problem with your setup or have dynamic range content matching off.

Settings are correct, and work for all non-live content (SDR default, content frame rate and range matching on)

What the heck - I reset my video settings for giggles, and will stick at chroma 4:2:2 as a test.

It still doesn't say anything about the FOX Sports app (which was the actual subject of apple's own keynote), nor the ESPN one. CBS will be an interesting test case this weekend.

 

[bozzykid]

Settings are correct, and work for all non-live content (SDR default, content frame rate and range matching on)

What the heck - I reset my video settings for giggles, and will stick at chroma 4:2:2 as a test.

It still doesn't say anything about the FOX Sports app (which was the actual subject of apple's own keynote), nor the ESPN one. CBS will be an interesting test case this weekend.

You probably need to set Chroma to 444 to get less switching in YouTube and YTTV but you can test it and see.

 

[Scion142]

Following along in this discussion, I am now using YTTV to watch sports, in particular 4K college games when available on the service from ESPN or FOX. My first experience with this was not good. I determined, like others, that the Apple TV 4K (2021) will only show up as 1080p on ESPN 4K sports broadcasts. The FOX 4K sports broadcast shows up as 2160p when using my Apple TV to stream YTTV. However, both streams often look washed out, whether ESPN 1080p or Fox 2160P. What is going on? I switched my Apple TV to 4K SDR and no improvement. Would like to get an answer on what I'm doing wrong.

 

[bozzykid]

Following along in this discussion, I am now using YTTV to watch sports, in particular 4K college games when available on the service from ESPN or FOX. My first experience with this was not good. I determined, like others, that the Apple TV 4K (2021) will only show up as 1080p on ESPN 4K sports broadcasts. The FOX 4K sports broadcast shows up as 2160p when using my Apple TV to stream YTTV. However, both streams often look washed out, whether ESPN 1080p or Fox 2160P. What is going on? I switched my Apple TV to 4K SDR and no improvement. Would like to get an answer on what I'm doing wrong.

YTTV only supports 1080p for ESPN 4K on any Apple TV 4K device. For Fox 4K, make sure you have content range matching on. It should switch to HDR for Fox 4K since most broadcasts on Fox 4K are HDR.