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xerenthar

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this would be about the only time i would use the adapter. can i really not sync wirelessly without connecting via a cable first?
 
this would be about the only time i would use the adapter. can i really not sync wirelessly without connecting via a cable first?

Oh man. I was going to switch over to WiFi syncing on my new MacBook... but you have to plug them in first (iPhone/iPad)? That's not good, I don't have the adapter, and I really wasn't planning on ever getting one.
 
apple is extremely greedy by not adding one of them for free with the macbook.

I don't agree with this sentiment. They do it because they're putting pressure on the market to use their new wireless data transfer technologies. It works, I agree with it, and I want to go along with it. I think the new iPhones and iPads, maybe not this year but certainly next year, will have USB-C ports instead of lightning connectors.

I'll stick to syncing with my desktop Mac for now, I basically never have to do it because of iCloud now anyways.
 
I don't agree with this sentiment. They do it because they're putting pressure on the market to use their new wireless data transfer technologies. It works, I agree with it, and I want to go along with it. I think the new iPhones and iPads, maybe not this year but certainly next year, will have USB-C ports instead of lightning connectors.

I'll stick to syncing with my desktop Mac for now, I basically never have to do it because of iCloud now anyways.

The point is that they are not supporting their own wireless ambitions by requiring a hard connect before allowing the wireless one.

They should just have a verification code come up on the phone/iPad that you enter into iTunes, like they do with two-step verification on AppleID's. It is seriously dumb.

Last I checked you can't manage your iTunes library on your iDevice without it syncing to iTunes on a Mac/Windows PC. Especially now with 8.3 locking out access to app save locations and files, making 3rd party solutions like iFinder, etc useless.

So...you will need to hook up to iTunes on occasion. Apple needs to address this issue if your hypothesis is true. Otherwise it is pretty much just greed...

Even if new iDevices come with USB-C instead (somehow I don't think this will be the case...but maybe USB-C to Lightning instead of USB-A, along with USB-C chargers across the line) they need to address this issue of absolutely having to have a hardwire connection to your home iTunes library to access, manage, and synchronise it.
 
I don't agree with this sentiment. They do it because they're putting pressure on the market to use their new wireless data transfer technologies. It works, I agree with it, and I want to go along with it. I think the new iPhones and iPads, maybe not this year but certainly next year, will have USB-C ports instead of lightning connectors.

I'll stick to syncing with my desktop Mac for now, I basically never have to do it because of iCloud now anyways.

I didn't agree with it before. I do now. There's seriously no ****ing way I can sync my iPhone, which I do wirelessly now with my ancient laptop I am getting rid of, without a $19 wireless syncing activation fee? That's absolutely what this is - I won't use it again for months or years if ever.
 
I didn't agree with it before. I do now. There's seriously no ****ing way I can sync my iPhone, which I do wirelessly now with my ancient laptop I am getting rid of, without a $19 wireless syncing activation fee? That's absolutely what this is - I won't use it again for months or years if ever.

It's outrageous that Apple think's this is what users should have to do. I guess it's all about selling those stupid cables in as higher quantity as they can get away with.

Ironic seeing as Skylake platform due late this year aims to do away with cables altogether.
 
there's a USB Type-C to USB Standard-A Plug Cable in the google play store for 12.99$
 
I didn't agree with it before. I do now. There's seriously no ****ing way I can sync my iPhone, which I do wirelessly now with my ancient laptop I am getting rid of, without a $19 wireless syncing activation fee? That's absolutely what this is - I won't use it again for months or years if ever.
Hopefully they'll fix this in iOS 9.
 
The point is that they are not supporting their own wireless ambitions by requiring a hard connect before allowing the wireless one.

They should just have a verification code come up on the phone/iPad that you enter into iTunes, like they do with two-step verification on AppleID's. It is seriously dumb.

Last I checked you can't manage your iTunes library on your iDevice without it syncing to iTunes on a Mac/Windows PC. Especially now with 8.3 locking out access to app save locations and files, making 3rd party solutions like iFinder, etc useless.

So...you will need to hook up to iTunes on occasion. Apple needs to address this issue if your hypothesis is true. Otherwise it is pretty much just greed...

Even if new iDevices come with USB-C instead (somehow I don't think this will be the case...but maybe USB-C to Lightning instead of USB-A, along with USB-C chargers across the line) they need to address this issue of absolutely having to have a hardwire connection to your home iTunes library to access, manage, and synchronise it.

At this point, it's definitely an oversight. Truly and completely wireless syncing is only partially here, but the rest is on the way. This is a brand new machine, so they'll definitely get to these things to accommodate their customers.

I sincerely reject the notion that this is greed. It's really obvious when companies make decisions that hinder the customer experience due to the specific motivation to improve profit margins. When it comes to Apple, I highly doubt their motivations are controlled by money or greed. I can feel this throughout the company, from my experiences when it comes to customer service to the excellence of their products in my daily use. Their motivation is to design, manufacture and distribute the absolute best products they can. I feel this immediately whenever I pick up and use Apple's products, especially as opposed to other gigantic companies' products.

Wasn't there a story that just recently came out about how Tim Cook isn't making a dime as CEO of the world's most valuable company? Yes, there was. He's giving it all to charity and his nephew's college fund. Those (at least the majority) at Apple aren't in it for the likes or the cash, they're in it to change the world. It's the #1 reason I subscribe to their brand and ecosystem. #2 is because their products work best for me, personally.
 
didn't sync/connect my iphone to computer once after icloud. why use ancient technology?


Much faster to restore backup from the Macbook if thats needed. I also have 10 gb of photos and I am not keen on paying for iCloud. I got 10 gb free from Dropbox and that's enough for photos.
 
didn't sync/connect my iphone to computer once after icloud. why use ancient technology?

Congratulations on having an entire video library that is 100% original Apple iTunes purchases, or you've completely repurchased in iTunes.

Until there is iTunes match for movies and tv shows, the vast majority of people will need to use a wired connection to manage their iDevices.

Especially true when you've got multiple devices for the whole family to manage.
 
Congratulations on having an entire video library that is 100% original Apple iTunes purchases, or you've completely repurchased in iTunes.

Until there is iTunes match for movies and tv shows, the vast majority of people will need to use a wired connection to manage their iDevices.

Especially true when you've got multiple devices for the whole family to manage.

don't understand why I need wired connection for TVS/Movies. I thought majority of people don't download movies now but just stream via paid/free services. Even if you are talking about downloaded/ripped videos, you can stream it via plex or use many available options to transfer via wifi. Plex supports offline watch too.

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Much faster to restore backup from the Macbook if thats needed. I also have 10 gb of photos and I am not keen on paying for iCloud. I got 10 gb free from Dropbox and that's enough for photos.

i guess that's the reason. Not trying to judge here but I think paying like 100 a year for cloud service may be a better deal than buying new laptop.

I have like 60-70G photos and I have them both on icloud and dropbox...
 
don't understand why I need wired connection for TVS/Movies. I thought majority of people don't download movies now but just stream via paid/free services. Even if you are talking about pirated downloaded videos, you can stream it via plex or use many available options to transfer via wifi. Plex supports offline watch too.

Yeah, try streaming video on an airplane for example. I'm talking about having a local copy of a physical Blu-ray rip, for example, that has been imported into iTunes on the device for long trips and travel, or any other situation where wifi is not present. Not talking about pirated material, for the record.

I get that you don't understand why you need a wired connection, very odd that you can't understand why other people, a lot of other people, might.
 
Yeah, try streaming video on an airplane for example. I'm talking about having a local copy of a physical Blu-ray rip, for example, that has been imported into iTunes on the device for long trips and travel, or any other situation where wifi is not present. Not talking about pirated material, for the record.

I get that you don't understand why you need a wired connection, very odd that you can't understand why other people, a lot of other people, might.

first, various technologies could let you watch local videos without connecting to cable. For example, Plex has sync function and some other media player apps have wifi transfer.

second, I was just trying to say you don't necessarily need cable to do those things. Sure, it may seem like most straightforward way for you and some other people, but there are other (arguably better) options. Apple is trying to push you to change old behaviors. Just like old days people can't get the idea that optical disk drive is not really necessary. Guess what happened last couple of years?

I do think single usb-c has some serious problems (like external monitor) for a few users but sync with iphone/ipad is not one of them.
 
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