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I was curious about this, My CS6 is 64 bit. I was told that Hig Sierra was the last most recent os version that could this Adobe CS6 without any issues, or is fully supported.

If High Sierra is the last OS that is fully compatible with Adobe CS6, would I be able to run High Sierra as a virtual machine in Parallels desktop on a newer mac? if not an M1 mac, would a newer intel mac with a newer OS version be able to run High Sierra through Parallels?
 

velocityg4

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Try running it in a VM with an older Mac OS. If it works well for you. You can run the old Mac OS and CS6 in a VM and update your Mac to the latest supported OS.

then when you go with M1, M2 and onwards. You can try emulating x86 in QEMU and run an old Mac OS. Running CS6 forever.

I couldn’t say how well it does in a VM or under emulation. You’ll have to find that out yourself.
 

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Try running it in a VM with an older Mac OS. If it works well for you. You can run the old Mac OS and CS6 in a VM and update your Mac to the latest supported OS.

then when you go with M1, M2 and onwards. You can try emulating x86 in QEMU and run an old Mac OS. Running CS6 forever.

I couldn’t say how well it does in a VM or under emulation. You’ll have to find that out yourself.
That is what I was thinking of doing, I was unsure if I can actually run macOS high sierra as a virtual machine.
 

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That is what I was thinking of doing, I was unsure if I can actually run macOS high sierra as a virtual machine.
High Sierra runs fine in a virtual machine on an Intel Mac. Graphics not as fast as you might like. I use VMware Fusion rather than Parallels, but experience would be similar.

But, even if you can get it working, I would expect running High Sierra using a vm with x86 emulation (QEMU/UTM) on an Apple Silicon Mac would be a disaster for a graphics intensive program. Seems to me to be a really good way of encouraging you into an Adobe subscription.

For old Photoshop, I would get the most recent Mac which can run High Sierra without a vm or emulation - iMac 2017. But, if you are going to get a new Mac, money would be better spent on Adobe subscription.
 

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High Sierra runs fine in a virtual machine on an Intel Mac. Graphics not as fast as you might like. I use VMware Fusion rather than Parallels, but experience would be similar.

But, even if you can get it working, I would expect running High Sierra using a vm with x86 emulation (QEMU/UTM) on an Apple Silicon Mac would be a disaster for a graphics intensive program. Seems to me to be a really good way of encouraging you into an Adobe subscription.

For old Photoshop, I would get the most recent Mac which can run High Sierra without a vm or emulation - iMac 2017. But, if you are going to get a new Mac, money would be better spent on Adobe subscription.
Ok, yeah, I do not use the Adobe suite software enough right now to justify paying what feels like a ripoff monthly subscription. I paid a good amount for the CS6 Design suite, and I am not ready to just abandon it just because everything has gone to the subscription model.

As for the iMac, I prefer a desktop with a separate monitor, it is easier to replace one or the other if something goes wrong. With an iMac, if the monitor dies, the whole thing is useless.

For now, I am going with a late 2018 mac mini with Monterey and will run high sierra as a virtual machine.
 

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I was curious about this, My CS6 is 64 bit. I was told that Hig Sierra was the last most recent os version that could this Adobe CS6 without any issues, or is fully supported.

If High Sierra is the last OS that is fully compatible with Adobe CS6, would I be able to run High Sierra as a virtual machine in Parallels desktop on a newer mac? if not an M1 mac, would a newer intel mac with a newer OS version be able to run High Sierra through Parallels?
The program is 64bit, but I think the problem is the installer is 32bit. So if you never need to re-install the program and always do in-place OS upgrade, it might work.

Having said that, Mojave still supports 32bit, I think. It's Catalina onwards where it becomes an issue since Apple dropped 32bit support.
 

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The program is 64bit, but I think the problem is the installer is 32bit. So if you never need to re-install the program and always do in-place OS upgrade, it might work.

Having said that, Mojave still supports 32bit, I think. It's Catalina onwards where it becomes an issue since Apple dropped 32bit support.
Ok, thanks for that, I will be installing this CS6 on a virtual mac os machine running either High Sierra, or Mojave. I think it was someone here on this forum that told me that High sierra was the last os to fully support this software.

I looked online and found this; https://discussions.apple.com/thread/8575820, https://community.adobe.com/t5/phot...transferring-cs6-to-new-macbook/td-p/10897771, https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208436

If I do go to a virtual macOs, should it be High Sierra or Mojave?
 

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Why not running Mac OS X 10.6.x Snow Leopard or OS X 10.8.x Mountain Lion in a VM to drive Adobe CS6? Even macOS 10.12.x Sierra should give you a better performance than macOS High Sierra or Mojave.

Adobe CS6 doesn't run well on APFS. Beginning with macOS High Sierra it is the standard macOS file system. I recommend HFS+ for Adobe CS6 and you should set up your macOS 10.13+ VM with it.
 

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Why not running Mac OS X 10.6.x Snow Leopard or OS X 10.8.x Mountain Lion in a VM to drive Adobe CS6? Even macOS 10.12.x Sierra should give you a better performance than macOS High Sierra or Mojave.

Adobe CS6 doesn't run well on APFS. Beginning with macOS High Sierra it is the standard macOS file system. I recommend HFS+ for Adobe CS6 and you should set up your macOS 10.13+ VM with it.
Ok, you mean have mac OS 10.13+ on my main machine, and then have CS6 in a virtual Machine with something like mountain Lion? I have an install ESD 10.8.5 on a thumb drive, I also have an install Yosemite on a thumb drive, and maybe a mavericks as well, which would be best? and if so how would I go about installing that through parallels desktop?

Edit, I think I might have lost those thumb drives, but I can find one online, a seller has, Mountain Lion, Mavericks, Yosemite, and El Capitan. Which of those would be best to install Adobe CS6 design suite as a virtual machine through patralells.
 
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Yes, run whatever macOS fits your needs and then utilize a macOS with the lowest requirements and the smallest footprint to get the best possible result for Adobe CS6.
Always prefer software from the developer:
I have no idea how to get macOS running in Parallels as I use VirtualBox. To get Snow Leopard installed could even be more tricky as most virtualization software makers decided to support OS X Server Snow Leopard only because of some EULA clause from Apple. However, OS X Mountain Lion should run faster in a VM than later OSs and is more stable than OS X Lion.
 

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Another way to create bootable installers is DiskMaker X. You'll just need a physical bootable USB thumb drive, if installing it as a native macOS host system on a physical Mac. To install macOS as a guest OS in a VM, at least for VirtualBox an ISO disk had to be created from the installer app. According to this article for Parallels just a valid macOS image should be sufficient.
 

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Another way to create bootable installers is DiskMaker X. You'll just need a physical bootable USB thumb drive, if installing it as a native macOS host system on a physical Mac. To install macOS as a guest OS in a VM, at least for VirtualBox an ISO disk had to be created from the installer app. According to this article for Parallels just a valid macOS image should be sufficient.
Ok, thank you for this info, looks like a few more hoops to go through to install a legacy macOS.
 

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I rarely chime in on forum threads since they can sometimes descend into petty bickering, and they're often filled with poor calibre comments which can be infuriating to read, but this is a topic I have some expertise in.

To the OP - whether you're looking to run CS6 on Mojave - as per your thread title - or on High Sierra - as you mention in your initial post - then, assuming that the Mac in question can happily run one of those OSs natively, there's absolutely no need to run any virtual machines.

Some context. I oversee 10 or so Macs at work which mostly run Mojave but a few still run High Sierra as they're too old to go beyond it. I'll be upgrading those that are able to, to Monterey in the New Year, as part of a department-wide upgrade plan (which involves all sorts of software & some new servers). I also run Mojave on my Mac at home.

Although 5 of the work Macs now run Adobe CC as opposed to CS6, almost all of them originally ran CS6, and a couple of the older Macs still do.

Both High Sierra & Mojave can & do run 32-bit software. Catalina & later OSs can't. So as long as you stick with Mojave or earlier, your 32-bit software should run fine, CS6 included.

FYI the individual components of CS6 aren't all 32-bit. Far from it. Around half of the CS6 "Master Collection" components are 32-bit, and around half are 64-bit.

In detail:

32-bit

Adobe Acrobat X Pro (or XI Pro)
Adobe AIR Settings Manager
Adobe Application Manager
Adobe Audition CS6
Adobe CS6 Service Manager
Adobe Dreamweaver CS6
Adobe Extension Manager CS6
Adobe Fireworks CS6
Adobe Flash CS6
Adobe Flash Builder 4.6
Adobe InDesign CS6

64-bit

Adobe After Effects CS6
Adobe Bridge CS6
Adobe Encore CS6
Adobe Illustrator CS6
Adobe Media Encoder CS6
Adobe Photoshop CS6
Adobe Prelude CS6
Adobe Premiere Pro CS6
Adobe SpeedGrade CS6


I can't give a reference or link to where I found this information, simply because I worked it out for myself, running each & every component (on Mojave) and checking Activity Monitor. So you're just going to have to take my word for it!

It all depends on which applications you need to run, but if you only ever need to run 64-bit ones, then - in theory - you could use an OS newer than Mojave.

Bear in mind though that CS6 hails from 2012, around the time of OS X 10.8 / Mountain Lion, and hasn't had any updates for years, let alone any official support from Adobe. So - other things being equal - the newer the OS that you run CS6 on beyond Mountain Lion, the more potential there is for issues.

For what it's worth though, we used to run Acrobat X Pro, InDesign CS6, Illustrator CS6 & Photoshop CS6 perfectly well on our 2018 Mac Minis (Intel) and 2017 iMacs (Intel) at work - all running Mojave - without any problems whatsoever.

That included Extensis Universal Type Client and its plugins for auto font activation & deactivation. As we're only concerned with design for print at my work, we didn't have any of the other major programs installed.

At home though, until very recently I had everything listed above installed, and all of them ran - mostly without issue - for years.

I'll qualify that by saying that my Premiere developed some corruption a few years ago, and I was unable to sort it (but it doesn't bother me as I've no need to use it any more), and many of the other programs I used very little. In the main though CS6 has played very nicely with Mojave - in my experience at least.

"Your mileage may vary" and all that though, so there's no guarantee that your experience will match mine.

CS6 hasn't been supported for years, and has NEVER had official support under Mojave (or High Sierra) so it's very much a case of "Caveat Emptor".

I hope that helps.
 
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FYI, I've been running LR CS6 on Catalina for many months with no issues. But you need to install with an older version and upgrade the OS with CS6 already installed.
I would be interested in having a way to run CS6 on an M1 Mac. They are so much faster that even with emulation it might be faster than running on an Intel Mac.
It should be said that CS6 is now very outdated. I'm still using it because it is bought and paid for and most of the new features in LR seem to require more time per image compared to the simpler CS6 (granted with much better results). The new masking features are stellar so I will likely upgrade in the next few months.
Let us know your progress.
Ron
 
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I rarely chime in on forum threads since they can sometimes descend into petty bickering, and they're often filled with poor calibre comments which can be infuriating to read, but this is a topic I have some expertise in.

To the OP - whether you're looking to run CS6 on Mojave - as per your thread title - or on High Sierra - as you mention in your initial post - then, assuming that the Mac in question can happily run one of those OSs natively, there's absolutely no need to run any virtual machines.

Some context. I oversee 10 or so Macs at work which mostly run Mojave but a few still run High Sierra as they're too old to go beyond it. I'll be upgrading those that are able to, to Monterey in the New Year, as part of a department-wide upgrade plan (which involves all sorts of software & some new servers). I also run Mojave on my Mac at home.

Although 5 of the work Macs now run Adobe CC as opposed to CS6, almost all of them originally ran CS6, and a couple of the older Macs still do.

Both High Sierra & Mojave can & do run 32-bit software. Catalina & later OSs can't. So as long as you stick with Mojave or earlier, your 32-bit software should run fine, CS6 included.

FYI the individual components of CS6 aren't all 32-bit. Far from it. Around half of the CS6 "Master Collection" components are 32-bit, and around half are 64-bit.

In detail:

32-bit

Adobe Acrobat X Pro (or XI Pro)
Adobe AIR Settings Manager
Adobe Application Manager
Adobe Audition CS6
Adobe CS6 Service Manager
Adobe Dreamweaver CS6
Adobe Extension Manager CS6
Adobe Fireworks CS6
Adobe Flash CS6
Adobe Flash Builder 4.6
Adobe InDesign CS6

64-bit

Adobe After Effects CS6
Adobe Bridge CS6
Adobe Encore CS6
Adobe Illustrator CS6
Adobe Media Encoder CS6
Adobe Photoshop CS6
Adobe Prelude CS6
Adobe Premiere Pro CS6
Adobe SpeedGrade CS6


I can't give a reference or link to where I found this information, simply because I worked it out for myself, running each & every component (on Mojave) and checking Activity Monitor. So you're just going to have to take my word for it!

It all depends on which applications you need to run, but if you only ever need to run 64-bit ones, then - in theory - you could use an OS newer than Mojave.

Bear in mind though that CS6 hails from 2012, around the time of OS X 10.8 / Mountain Lion, and hasn't had any updates for years, let alone any official support from Adobe. So - other things being equal - the newer the OS that you run CS6 on beyond Mountain Lion, the more potential there is for issues.

For what it's worth though, we used to run Acrobat X Pro, InDesign CS6, Illustrator CS6 & Photoshop CS6 perfectly well on our 2018 Mac Minis (Intel) and 2017 iMacs (Intel) at work - all running Mojave - without any problems whatsoever.

That included Extensis Universal Type Client and its plugins for auto font activation & deactivation. As we're only concerned with design for print at my work, we didn't have any of the other major programs installed.

At home though, until very recently I had everything listed above installed, and all of them ran - mostly without issue - for years.

I'll qualify that by saying that my Premiere developed some corruption a few years ago, and I was unable to sort it (but it doesn't bother me as I've no need to use it any more), and many of the other programs I used very little. In the main though CS6 has played very nicely with Mojave - in my experience at least.

"Your mileage may vary" and all that though, so there's no guarantee that your experience will match mine.

CS6 hasn't been supported for years, and has NEVER had official support under Mojave (or High Sierra) so it's very much a case of "Caveat Emptor".

I hope that helps.
Thank you for this breakdown. I was told it does not run well on APFS internal drives, are your computer hard drives in this new format?

I was wondering a bout a virtual machine, since I am aware that mac minis run hot and can have cooling issues. The less strain I put on it with things like running virtual machines, the better.

Have you rub into any installation restrictions? since you are running this app on multiple computers. I thought since Adobe has dropped support for this software are there still restrictions on the number of computers these apps can be installed on?
 
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