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I keep hearing about how the 15 is out of date as it will have no AI. Sure it will be the selling point in a video but I never use Siri. In a few years when foldable and better cameras come AI will just be there as a feature as standard for those who wish to use. Don’t see it being a main feature I read even Apple don’t think it will be a selling point earlier in year?
 
Let's put it this way, I would never pay for AI, and plan to disable AI when I get a future phone that supports it.

I put ChatGPT on my 15 Plus to play around with it, free version of course. I got some laughs telling it to roast my cars but at this point I'm bored of it already. I don't use Siri, not sure if I ever really did in all these years on iphone. I don't edit photos, barely ever write emails on my phone, I don't use the calendar other than to look at it, so I don't see how I need AI. My phone is about it being a fun device for me, not a work tool.
 
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AI isn’t a groundbreaking feature for me. I’m definitely all about the Siri improvements that will come with Apple Intelligence, but AI as a whole isn’t something that would get me to upgrade (even though I do have a 15 Pro).
 
I'm not interested in Apple Intelligence, just because it seems so behind all the competition.

A tool to rewrite e-mails? Image Playground? A better voice assistant? Most third-party AI services will give you all that and more, and you won't need to get a new phone either. Maybe someday, Apple Intelligence will be genuinely competitive in the AI space, but right now, unless you really like Siri, there's not much to look forward to with Apple's AI efforts.
 
Interesting that you ask this. In my experience, the anti-AI crowd has been super vocal.

I'm interested because I hate catching up on group chats. Give me those sweet sweet summaries.
Interesting take on AI. I guess I am not in enough group message for this to matter. The biggest one I have, I just ignore most of the messages because they don't pertain to me and I surely don't care about catching up.
 
I am not gonna upgrade my 13 PM, but I am running beta Apple intelligence on my M1 iPad Pro. I don’t care about writing essays on ChatGPT. The Apple intelligence bumping up mails accross all accounts that need attention has been great for me. And I love summarizing information from some of the newsletters I need to be aware of for various reasons. I want Apple to provide ability to search through pics for details in my recipes when I travel. I will take an intelligent OS over baby sitting apps.
 
Me! I would have loved a truly agnostic AI, but it's become apparent that will never happen. Even with Apple.
 
Me!

i read all bout the AIs in many scfi novels last century
and perfer the human element as older OSX like Mt Lion has a wider range of features and uses than say Montery.

i never use a phone perhaps once a month so this might be inconclusive or off topic.
 
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I'm not interested in Apple Intelligence, just because it seems so behind all the competition.

A tool to rewrite e-mails? Image Playground? A better voice assistant? Most third-party AI services will give you all that and more, and you won't need to get a new phone either. Maybe someday, Apple Intelligence will be genuinely competitive in the AI space, but right now, unless you really like Siri, there's not much to look forward to with Apple's AI efforts.
Ok, I’ll bite. What competition? Those fun but creepy photo editing tricks that Google and Samsung offer via their servers? Or those rewriting tricks that Apple will offer too? That’s not AI for me. I have yet to see a truly smart assistent that I can reliably ask to do stuff for me, like: ‘find me a good coffee place along my route with no more than a 10’ detour’
 
I was meaning it as an AI that gave only objective answers, no bias.

Oh, that's probably impossible. Bias in the dataset, bias in the algorithm, bias in the user interpretation of the response. If it was created by humans, it will have a bias.

I'm just surprised at how not-extreme these AIs seem, considering these models were trained on the internet and the opinions posted to it.
 
i think chat gpt app is amazing and I use it fairly often. That said I’m not that interested in the AI stuff that Apple pitched but maybe it will grow on me
 
What we have now is not AI.

It's a crappy tokenizer and statistical inference network that outputs something stupid people haven't worked out is stupid yet. This is all powered by an investment mill and hype engineering operation like no one has ever seen before.

Quick example.

It's impossible to have a 10uH capacitor (it should be 10pF) and a 22pF inductor also makes no sense (22uH it should be). Also 1THz is a frequency which is waaaaay outside any reasonable model where a lumped element circuit even makes sense to reason about.

An EE tutor / engineer would roll up a newspaper, hit you round the back of the head and tell you to stop being a dumbass.

CoPilot answers you authoritatively while completely misinterpreting the question and giving you an answer which has no meaning at all.

It's hopeless.

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I'm really up in the air on this: on the one hand, if it means a much better Siri experience, then yes. I won't use most of the generative AI features, but having a digital assistant who really gets what I need would be great.

However, on the other hand, I love what the Procreate CEO did last week and stood his ground on not integrating AI in order to protect creativity as a human-driven process. That has me thinking quite a bit.
 
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Apple's AI doesn't really help with work or productivity. At least not to the degree that Gemini does.

So, no I'm not interested. Apple's AI is more like the assistants from years past. The multimodal AI models wanted today actually help with work.
 
Ok, I’ll bite. What competition? Those fun but creepy photo editing tricks that Google and Samsung offer via their servers? Or those rewriting tricks that Apple will offer too? That’s not AI for me. I have yet to see a truly smart assistent that I can reliably ask to do stuff for me, like: ‘find me a good coffee place along my route with no more than a 10’ detour’
I agree with you on all of that, but we also haven't seen Apple Intelligence do any of that in person yet. Sure the demos looked cool, but we still await to see if it will be as good as they say.
 
Apple's AI doesn't really help with work or productivity. At least not to the degree that Gemini does.

So, no I'm not interested. Apple's AI is more like the assistants from years past. The multimodal AI models wanted today actually help with work.

You think they do.

How can you rationally qualify that they do and aren't authoritatively misleading you?

This is the crux of the matter; they can't do research or form a balanced or nuanced opinion and people are lazy and have implicit trust in them.
 
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