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Anyone bothering with 10.8.5 update or waiting for Mavericks?

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ItHurtsWhenIP

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'Merica!
I really like how 10.8.4 is running on my new Air, I don't think I'm going to bother with the .5 update when Mavericks probably isn't too far away.

I figure, if I'm gonna deal with growing pains from an update it might as well be with a new version of OS X instead of an update of an OS that works perfectly for me at the moment..

Anyone gone to 10.8.5 yet?
 
ItHurtsWhenIP said:
I really like how 10.8.4 is running on my new Air, I don't think I'm going to bother with the .5 update when Mavericks probably isn't too far away.

I figure, if I'm gonna deal with growing pains from an update it might as well be with a new version of OS X instead of an update of an OS that works perfectly for me at the moment..

Anyone gone to 10.8.5 yet?
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Yup, me, and at least three other people.:)
 
Printes

I would not be surprised if printer drivers you are using now do not work well under 10.8.5 or 10.9 but no problem...just junk your existing printer and go out and buy a new one the way we have had to before....we all have extra money to spend!
 
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Hmm should I fix any open bug and security holes on this system... or wait an unknown amount if time until another OS is released?


That's a dumb question.
 
ItHurtsWhenIP said:
I really like how 10.8.4 is running on my new Air, I don't think I'm going to bother with the .5 update when Mavericks probably isn't too far away.

I figure, if I'm gonna deal with growing pains from an update it might as well be with a new version of OS X instead of an update of an OS that works perfectly for me at the moment..

Anyone gone to 10.8.5 yet?
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I installed in on my 2013 Air and have no issues. There are some security updates included, so it is a good idea to apply the update.

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Mac.User said:
Hmm should I fix any open bug and security holes on this system... or wait an unknown amount if time until another OS is released?

That's a dumb question.
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Or... another approach would be to politely explain there are also security updates included and just drop the insult. But that's just me.
 
Mail is less weird with update

I haven't tried my printer since the update. Hope it works. Mail is definitely improved. Not excellent but a little better.
 
thejadedmonkey said:
What else would be in a point update?
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Below from Apple's own notes on the 10.8.5 update page:

The OS X Mountain Lion v10.8.5 Update is recommended for all OS X Mountain Lion users. It improves the stability, compatibility, and security of your Mac. This update:

Fixes an issue that may prevent Mail from displaying messages
Improves AFP file transfer performance over 802.11ac Wi-Fi
Resolves an issue that may prevent a screen saver from starting automatically
Improves Xsan reliability
Improves reliability when transferring large files over Ethernet
Improves performance when authenticating to an Open Directory server
Addresses an issue that prevented a smart card from unlocking preference panes in System Preferences
Contains the improvements included in MacBook Air (Mid 2013) Software Update 1.0
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Mac.User said:
Hmm should I fix any open bug and security holes on this system... or wait an unknown amount if time until another OS is released?


That's a dumb question.
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Calm down and stay classy.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1636447/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1635734/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1636006/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1636113/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1635938/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1635973/

Yea, real dumb question. :rolleyes:
 
If people used your logic then no one would ever patch anything.

In a few months you are likely to be asking if you should install 10.9 or wait for 10.9.1.
 
Weaselboy said:
Below from Apple's own notes on the 10.8.5 update page:
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Sorry, I blocked that Mac.User kid. He needs a hug. But, none of these "updates" applied to me, which is why I asked.

Fixes an issue that may prevent Mail from displaying messages (never had a problem)
Improves AFP file transfer performance over 802.11ac Wi-Fi (don't have ac)
Resolves an issue that may prevent a screen saver from starting automatically (don't use screen savers)
Improves Xsan reliability (no idea what Xsan is)
Improves reliability when transferring large files over Ethernet (I don't transfer files over ethernet)
Improves performance when authenticating to an Open Directory server (no idea what an Open Directory server is, don't use it)
Addresses an issue that prevented a smart card from unlocking preference panes in System Preferences (don't know what a smart card is, don't use one)
Contains the improvements included in MacBook Air (Mid 2013) Software Update 1.0 (never installed this, mine may have come with it insalled, but I never suffered any of the problems with wi-fi/screen/etc. on my new Air)

For what it's worth, I decided to backup my Documents, Bookmarks and Downloads and went ahead with the update. Figured my computer is new enough and with those 3 things backed up I could go back to .4 easily if necessary. All went well, no problems, no noticeable difference as expected.
 
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ItHurtsWhenIP said:
Calm down and stay classy.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1636447/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1635734/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1636006/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1636113/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1635938/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1635973/

Yea, real dumb question. :rolleyes:
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....And you expect the update to Mavericks to be smooth as silk?

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/2164662?start=0&tstart=0
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3204350?start=0&tstart=0
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4142514?start=0&tstart=0

We can post links to people having problems with updates all month. Every update has edge cases (weird apps developed with bad coding techniques, cheap add-on hardware with dodgy drivers, etc.) that will break with updates. OS X isn't the only OS that has this problem. If I had a nickel for every time we've had to back our Windows workstations at work out of dodgy Windows updates due to issues, I wouldn't have to work anymore.

But. none of that means the majority of users will have their macs explode on them for doing a point-release update. It's no more risky (actually less so) than upgrading to a whole new major version of the OS.

I updated to 10.8.5 on my three personal Macs, and when those kept running fine, I rolled it out to all the Macs at work, and none of them are having issues, either. And honestly, I'll roll out Mavericks FAR more slowly and cautiously, because way more will change there, and there WILL be greater risk. But nonetheless, unless Apple has really dropped the ball, I'll very likely roll out 10.9.1 to all the Macs where I work that can support it, not too long after it comes out.

If however, you're completely risk-averse, you can do what my crazy counterpart in another organization is doing: making all of his Mac users use ONLY the version of OS X or iOS that shipped with the device. No point-release updates. No upgrades to new versions with new features. What it came with is what you stick with... it's the only way to be sure.
 
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For every OS update (no matter how minor) I wait a couple of days to make sure there are no huge widespread issues with it. If there isn't anything major, then I go ahead with the update. 10.8.5 hasn't had any widespread issues (some people here and there, but nothing major). I went ahead and updated.
 
Agent-P said:
For every OS update (no matter how minor) I wait a couple of days to make sure there are no huge widespread issues with it. If there isn't anything major, then I go ahead with the update. 10.8.5 hasn't had any widespread issues (some people here and there, but nothing major). I went ahead and updated.
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I only had a few things to back up so I did too..being a new computer, everything is still on an external HD so I just went for it. So far, so good..(nothing noticeably better or worse, which I guess is a good thing as it was running the same way on .4)
 
Mavericks probably won't be here for another 1.5-2 months. Apple is too busy pushing trash like the iPhone C
 
not broken

Spacial said:
It's running just fine for me. Plus I prefer to stay updated.
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I see the changes as esoteric...of use to a minority of users, my system is not broken so no need to download it and then find out my fussy Samsung laser printer won't work any more.
 
palmharbor said:
I would not be surprised if printer drivers you are using now do not work well under 10.8.5 or 10.9 but no problem...just junk your existing printer and go out and buy a new one the way we have had to before....we all have extra money to spend!
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I was wondering if I was the only one who ever had to face this problem. And HP is the absolute worst in orphaning their printer drivers after a year or two.

I used to curse the stinginess of prior bosses who used old, outdated terminals, networking and software in their small businesses. After having to unexpectedly replace half my peripherals once or twice after ill considered OS updates, I've come around to their point of view: everything works, does the job, and is paid for, #$%# the upgrades.

My personal and/or traveling machines are a different matter.
 
ItHurtsWhenIP said:
Sorry, I blocked that Mac.User kid. He needs a hug. But, none of these "updates" applied to me, which is why I asked.

Fixes an issue that may prevent Mail from displaying messages (never had a problem)
Improves AFP file transfer performance over 802.11ac Wi-Fi (don't have ac)
Resolves an issue that may prevent a screen saver from starting automatically (don't use screen savers)
Improves Xsan reliability (no idea what Xsan is)
Improves reliability when transferring large files over Ethernet (I don't transfer files over ethernet)
Improves performance when authenticating to an Open Directory server (no idea what an Open Directory server is, don't use it)
Addresses an issue that prevented a smart card from unlocking preference panes in System Preferences (don't know what a smart card is, don't use one)
Contains the improvements included in MacBook Air (Mid 2013) Software Update 1.0 (never installed this, mine may have come with it insalled, but I never suffered any of the problems with wi-fi/screen/etc. on my new Air)

For what it's worth, I decided to backup my Documents, Bookmarks and Downloads and went ahead with the update. Figured my computer is new enough and with those 3 things backed up I could go back to .4 easily if necessary. All went well, no problems, no noticeable difference as expected.
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Maybe so--but in the end it is best to update--like you did. Not for the things you don't need or use--but for these issues on the security side of 10.8.5.

http://www.eweek.com/security/apple-updates-mac-os-x-10.8.5-for-security-stability.html
 
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