Anyone buy the 2014 entry level mini?

Discussion in 'Mac mini' started by Tough Guy, Nov 24, 2014.

  1. Tough Guy macrumors regular

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    Very interested to hear your thoughts on it. My main concern is the super-slow HDD and the 4GB of ram.
     
  2. rigormortis macrumors 68000

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    yeah i bought one. i had it sent to me on no payments no interest on bill me later at the apple store


    you can tell the hard drive is slow. i kind of regret only buying 4 gigs. on yosemite , 4 gigs is kind of low. i think if u use yosemite u should get 8 gigs. Yosemite likes to use up nearly 4 gigs to keep the system snappy and responsive and if you load a couple apps it starts to swap


    i wouldn't worry about the slow hard drive. you can always replace that later on

    theres a slot for a ssd but i talked to owc and they don't have a kit for the mac yet

    i figure maybe i would get a hybrid hard disk for the newer mini if i got sick of the speed


    i bought it on price. i wanted a mac to replace my mac mini 2006, the main reason i got it was to hold my iTunes library and to back up my iPhone and iPad

    i already have a 2010 mini and a macbook pro, so i didn't want to spend 699 on the faster model

    its funny how slow benchmarks from a c2d 2.4 ghz 2010 are compared to a 1.4 i5 hah
    the i5 is faster then my c2d but the ram and hard disk get in the way
     
  3. Tough Guy thread starter macrumors regular

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    You find it slow for everyday use?

    I'm debating between a 2012 and a 2014. I just want a machine that runs Yosemite properly.
     
  4. rigormortis macrumors 68000

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    yeah both this 2014 mac mini and my brothers 2011 mac book pro seemed kind of slow for every day use. like safari seemed slower. but that was more because the computers have only 4 gigs of ram, then a slow hard disk

    i think if u use yosetmite u should have 8 gigs.
     
  5. Meister Suspended

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    You guys should mention what apps you are running. For some folks an ssd with 4gb ram will be excellent, while others fare better with more ram over an ssd upgrade.
     
  6. rigormortis macrumors 68000

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    now the mac doesn't seem that bad as when i first got it. maybe because it had time to build its caches. it seems fine. maybe programs might be slower to load because of 4 gigs . you should buy the 2014 one .. and I'm sure u can take it back and get the 2012 if you change your mind
     
  7. Meister Suspended

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    ?

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    Usually an ssd is what helps to start programs faster.

    I recommend you connect an external ssd and boot Yosemite from there. You will recognize a huge difference.

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    Yosemite will utilize system memory as much as it can.
    On my rmbp it "uses" 7.99gb with no apps running.

    As long as memory pressure in the activity monitor is green your system is not slowed down due to lack of ram.
     
  8. rigormortis macrumors 68000

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    here is a widow capture.
    this is a 2014 mac mini with 4 gigs of ram
    you can see memory used is 3.93 out of 4 gigs
    this is simply because yosemite likes to keep a large cache to keep the system
    running smoothly.

    swap is low. compressed is slow

    as long as "memory pressure" is low and green your ram situation is fine
    this is with iPhoto, finder, activity monitor, termijnal, iTunes, messages , mail, notes , disk utility and preview open
     

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  9. Meister Suspended

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    Thank you! A good example!
     
  10. rigormortis macrumors 68000

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    macs build caches as you use your mac. when i bought my 2014 mac mini it seemed slow. but now about a week later , the mac seems better now.

    like i would load safari and would beach ball a lot opening a window and opening a web page.

    now it seems better

    when i say macs build caches i am basing that on applejack's ability to delete them

    http://www.cnet.com/news/troubleshooting-tools-applejack/
     
  11. Meister Suspended

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    I did not know this. Thank you for the link.

    We run several macs and the ones with pcie ssds, be it with 4gigs or 8gigs of ram, never beachball when opening apps. Loading apps vastly improves with diskspeed.
     
  12. rigormortis macrumors 68000

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    yeah but the turn on this is that with the mac mini 2014 you can't upgrade the ram, but you can upgrade the disk.

    the fact that the $499 mac mini only has a 5400 rpm shouldn't stop you from buying one or trying it out. the fact that it only has 4 gigs and can't be upgraded to 8 or more is more important then hard disk speed

    every single mac mini ever made has always had a 5400 rpm disk. i can't think of a single mac mini ever made by apple that ever came with a 7200 rpm drive.

    until the ssd ones came out that is
     
  13. miatadan macrumors member

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    Just purchased 2014 mac mini base model @ black friday price of $509 canadian.... So this computer is less expensive than a iPad Air 2 in Canada.

    I plan to add PCIe ssd once there is a kit for it.

    If I am only going to use email, safari and play back media files using Mac Blu-ray Player software, VLC for mac will 4gb memory be enough? Have not opened mac mini yet...

    Dan
     
  14. rigormortis macrumors 68000

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    inbox me if you find a ssd kit!!
    i asked owc they have nothing to report yet
     
  15. redheeler macrumors 603

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    For your uses 4 GB should be fine, as long as you don't have many tabs open in the browser. OS X memory compression helps to cope with this low amount of RAM although most of the time it will sit close to maxed and this will only get worse as time goes on.
     
  16. MrX8503 macrumors 68000

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    I got the base Mac Mini 2014 to work as a media center/NAS. So far loving it. I was on the fence about 4GB vs 8GB, but I didn't want to spend any more than I had to. Especially if I have other powerful machines around.

    The Mac Mini 2014 replaced my WHS due to my need of thunderbolt networking. You essentially get 10GbE speeds through thunderbolt without the prohibitive costs of 10GbE.

    Yup. I have an iMac at work with 24GB of RAM and Yosemite uses nearly all of it. It's all about the memory pressure.
     
  17. redheeler macrumors 603

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    Unused memory is wasted memory. Better to fill it and increase the speed of opening things that were previously open then have it go to waste.
     
  18. for this macrumors regular

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    My 2012 mini with 4GB RAM (running Yosemite) will start to swap when I apply a filter to a 1GB photoshop file.
    So I think 4GB RAM is enough for light jobs at least for now.
     
  19. miatadan macrumors member

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    update: returned the 2014 mac mini unopened as I decided best to save up more money to get mac mini with more memory...thinking now middle model as at least it has 8gb and better processor and Iris graphics
     
  20. dogslobber macrumors 68020

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    A wise choice. A 4GB 2014 Mini also has to supply shared memory for the video RAM, which might be almost 1GB. Using such a crippled system is like hammering a nail into your foot. Painful.
     
  21. Xace macrumors newbie

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    Don't

    I purchased an entry level mini from Apple but it is going back.

    I wanted a Mac to be able to do my job while my MacBook Pro 2011 is being repaired (because of the defective graphics chip), but just logging into the machine you see that this mini is severely limited. It's a shame that a machine released in 2014 provides such a poor impression even doing the simplest tasks or just browsing the web.

    I bet it is just in the catalog to be able to say that they offer a Mac starting at 500$, but is not intended to provide a good user experience.
     
  22. neilly93 macrumors member

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    We bought the entry MM for my dad for Christmas - I've been trying to coax him towards a Mac over the last few years, and with his desktop coming to the end of its life, this seemed an easy way to see how he would take to Apple. We did however upgrade the RAM to 8GB - felt that with the HDD this would help with the strain of running Yosemite, and hopefully will allow a couple of OSX updates over the next few years.
     
  23. Drezin macrumors member

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    will it run League of Legends on lowest settings properly?
     
  24. sergiobaschi macrumors regular

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    I got the entry level Mini, and ordered a 128 GB SSD as well. Used the original HDD for a few days, and it was horrible. But once the SSD was properly installed, it works flawlessly. I use it as a media computer for watching movies, streaming and playing emulated NES and NES64 games. And for that purpose, it's a perfect machine.

    But don't use it with the HDD, that's just a piece of joke.
     
  25. newellj macrumors 601

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    I ran 10.10 on a Mini with 4gb of RAM for a while before upgrading it to 8gb. It ran just fine on 4gb "for everyday use."
     

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