iPhone 11 Pro Anyone concerned about about iPhone radiation?

[jschnee21]

I wish my phone put out more radiation so that I could get better reception, data, and call reliability.

Ridiculously low Mobile transmit RF power and poor antenna gain are the reason we need cell towers every 2 to 5 miles.

I don’t talk on my phone very much, and when I do it’s almost always hands free (in the car, etc.) — not out of concern, but out of convenience. Oh, and I guess it’s the law, too.

 

[44267547]

OP’s thread title:

“Anyone concerned about about iPhone radiation?”

Short answer:

.......No, it’s a ridiculous topic that doesn’t pose any other risk(s) comparable to say...UV rays from the sun or microwave emissions. Some people in my opinion, shouldn’t be allowed to even own a smart phone.

 

[MandiMac]

Some people in my opinion, shouldn’t be allowed to even own a smart phone.

People under 10 years maybe.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

OP’s thread title:

“Anyone concerned about about iPhone radiation?”

Short answer:

.......No, it’s a ridiculous topic that doesn’t pose any other risk(s) comparable to say...UV rays from the sun or microwave emissions. Some people in my opinion, shouldn’t be allowed to even own a smart phone.

The world health organisation would disagree with you there. Mobile phone radiation is classified as a human carcinogen and the question remains from how much exposure does it take to cause harm, not if it does at all.

 

[44267547]

The world health organisation would disagree with you there.

To be completely frank to the ‘world health organization’, I_ don’t_ care. There are far worse things greater that can affect your health then ‘phone radiation’ without any scientific evidence/empirical data showing otherwise that has no proven studies to show otherwise that can attribute to long term effects. Case in point, really.

Mobile phone radiation is classified as a human carcinogen

Try posting a source. It’s not that I don’t believe you, but for other readers, it helps to have background info quantifying your quote.

 

[bobsamm]

Where your source that it doesn’t?

 

[MandiMac]

Where your source that it doesn’t?

We are currently using frequencies both way lower and higher than those that are emitted by smartphones. We've been using them for decades for TV, radar, radio and much more. Nothing bad has happened, no, our life expectancy is even on the rise...

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

To be completely frank to the ‘world health organization’, I_ don’t_ care. There are far worse things greater that can affect your health then ‘phone radiation’ without any scientific evidence/empirical data showing otherwise that has no proven studies to show otherwise that can attribute to long term effects. Case in point, really.

Try posting a source. It’s not that I don’t believe you, but for other readers, it helps to have background info quantifying your quote.

Here’s an article from the Guardian linking the studies. There is scientific evidence to prove it causes harm but the question remains over how much exposure.

I appreciate you don’t care about the dangers personally and I can’t argue with that, but do you have a source to suggest it causes no harm?

The inconvenient truth about cancer and mobile phones

We dismiss claims about mobiles being bad for our health – but is that because studies showing a link to cancer have been cast into doubt by the industry?

www.google.co.uk

 

[MandiMac]

Here’s an article from the Guardian linking the studies.

Where?

 

[aue123]

We are currently using frequencies both way lower and higher than those that are emitted by smartphones. We've been using them for decades for TV, radar, radio and much more. Nothing bad has happened, no, our life expectancy is even on the rise...

i think people who work directly with all those you’ve listed most likely have health issues. i’ve heard many times about linemen getting cancer because they work directly with high frequency stuff while installing those massive antennas

 

[MandiMac]

i think people who work directly with all those you’ve listed most likely have health issues. i’ve heard many times about linemen getting cancer because they work directly with high frequency stuff while installing those massive antennas

I‘m not quite sure about that, because such antennas work with around 5-10 watts under full load. This is a minimal amount by any measure - and I think linemen are among the ones who smoke and drink the most which isn‘t healthy by any means. It‘s really hard to find any scientific approach because you can‘t confine illnesses like cancer to just one cause. I‘m not saying that radiation of any kind is healthy in any way, but the way some people argue about 5G networks for instance (where we are using exact the same frequency range we are using for decades now), is pure emotional blabber and almost no facts.
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The inconvenient truth about cancer and mobile phones

We dismiss claims about mobiles being bad for our health – but is that because studies showing a link to cancer have been cast into doubt by the industry?

www.google.co.uk

Thanks for the link! One, it is from 2018 and I wonder why we haven‘t heard more about it yet - and no, big bad PR evil does not count. Second, I read that study for a bit - really interesting. We are currently FDA limiting exposure to 2 watts per kilogram. Rats have been full body exposured since in utero.

„Exposures to RFR were initiated in utero beginning with the exposure of pregnant dams
20 (approximately 11-14 weeks of age) on Gestation Day (GD) 5 and continuing throughout
21 gestation. After birth, dams and pups were exposed in the same cage through weaning on
22 postnatal day (PND) 21, at which point the dams were removed and exposure of 90 pups per sex
23 per group was continued for up to 106 weeks.“

And then, just a few lines below that, we get that survival was actually higher than compared to the control group. I think this is an issue that has been blown out of proportion for clicks, if you ask me.

„At the end of the 2-year study, survival was lower in the control group of males than in all
2 groups of male rats exposed to GSM-modulated RFR. Survival was also slightly lower in control
3 females than in females exposed to 1.5 or 6 W/kg GSM-modulated RFR. In rats exposed to
4 CDMA-modulated RFR, survival was higher in all groups of exposed males and in the 6 W/kg
5 females compared to controls.“

 

[teeshot44]

And one study says coffee will kill you and another study says it's good for you. Two opposing viewpoints will always find something makes you die 1 day sooner and another will let you live 1 day longer. Here's one that touts the benefits of smoking.

Smoking - News and Scientific Articles on Live Science | Live Science

Get the latest news and articles about Smoking from the experts at Live Science.

www.livescience.com

Believe what you want and you'll die early from the stress of wondering who's right.

 

[wproct]

I actually worry more about the hours I spend with my laptop on my lap than I do my cell phone. I don't talk on my cellphone enough to worry about it.

 

[ericwn]

People under 10 years maybe.

Or anybody who wants to watch videos in public transport loud without headphones. And let’s not forget those who have the phone on speaker to make sure everyone must hear their conversations. I think they all qualify!

 

[jamezr]

To be completely frank to the ‘world health organization’, I_ don’t_ care. There are far worse things greater that can affect your health then ‘phone radiation’ without any scientific evidence/empirical data showing otherwise that has no proven studies to show otherwise that can attribute to long term effects. Case in point, really.




Try posting a source. It’s not that I don’t believe you, but for other readers, it helps to have background info quantifying your quote.

You might not care about it but that doesn't mean other feel the same_way to be honest

Here is one source

Your iPhone 11 Pro Emits Twice the Amount of Radiation for Safe Use. RF Exposure Lab in San Marcos, California found that the iPhone 11 Pro emits over twice the FCC's legal safety limit for radiofrequency radiation from a cell phone.

Your iPhone 11 Pro Emits Twice the Amount of Radiation for Safe Use

Should you be worried?

www.popularmechanics.com

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I actually worry more about the hours I spend with my laptop on my lap than I do my cell phone. I don't talk on my cellphone enough to worry about it.

Same here I actually don't talk that much on my 11 pro max. I wonder if that reduces anything from studies or not. But I usually use a headset when I talk on the phone instead of holding it to my ear.

 

[44267547]

You might not care about it but that doesn't mean other feel the same_way to be honest

Thanks, but I’m not interested in how others ‘feel’ about radiation, as that’s not the focal point of discussion. My point was and still is, there isn’t enough emperical data showing harmful effects versus say..other considerations of radiation that probably are just as dangerous to exposure, if not more notable with examples provided already in the context of this thread.

Anyways, this is a really diverse topic that in some aspects, isn’t fully investigated to the point where it creates speculation, but not enough definitive evidence, as it’s a study that doesn’t have just one ‘outcome’, but I digress.

Side note:

As much as this topic is about the ‘iPhone’, it almost bridges its way into PRSI. Just wanted to point that out, being I believe other discussions with similar threads were moved into the PRSI forum with the whole radiation topic. [And I avidly avoid the PRSI forum. 😁]

 

[jschnee21]

I was recently in San Diego in January, and while the weather was beautiful, I’ve come to find out that — in California — eating, drinking, and breathing cause cancer.

Thank goodness I live in NJ !!!

 

[44267547]

I was recently in San Diego in January, and while the weather was beautiful, I’ve come to find out that — in California — eating, drinking, and breathing cause cancer.

Thank goodness I live in NJ !!!

This is legit hilarious. Bottom line: Just never leave your house and you’ll be fine. 😁

 

[bobsamm]

Common sense says you shouldn't hold the phone to your ear for calls if you can avoid it.

I do make/recieve a fair few calls, i use the ear plugs that come with the phone, although i have cut the left one off as it just falls out for me, easier anyway as i just grab one to put in to talk.
Should buy AirPods but seem a waste as i can only use 1 and AirPods pro didn't suit me either.

I use bose 700 for my iMac and iPad pro.

 

[FlippyGonnaSnap]

I sleep with it next to my head and will continue to do so.

There is nothing to worry about.

The stress caused by worrying about every click-bait fear mongering article that exaggerates the actual effect by a million will be what ends you.

 

[MandiMac]

Here is one source

Your iPhone 11 Pro Emits Twice the Amount of Radiation for Safe Use

Should you be worried?

www.popularmechanics.com

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This is the exact same quote found to be false from the OP. MacRumors even had a story about it!

No, they don't. Why? MacRumors explains: https://www.macrumors.com/2019/12/19/fcc-iphone-didnt-exceed-rf-radiation-safety-level/