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Diatribe said:
Why on earth would you want to replace iTunes? I understand there are arguments about iTunes vs. winamp etc. but those all come from people who have never used iTunes for a week.
There are many players out there that support DivX.
mPlayer
VLC
XinePlayer
Quicktime DivX Codec
Those should suit your "entertainment" needs. :p :D


I have used iTunes for a week.. actually for a few months when I got my iPod until I found ephPod so I dont have to use iTunes. Main reason why I dont like is because its not as good as Winamp... and thats the real reason.

I really like how Winamp has the ability to have the playlist as a seperate entity, especially when I minimize it so it only takes a real small percent on my desktop.

iTunes, atleast when I test drove it for a few months when i minimized it to take a small percent of my desktop, it didnt go small enough and I couldnt browse through my playlist as well while it was minimized.
 
wako said:
I really like how Winamp has the ability to have the playlist as a seperate entity, especially when I minimize it so it only takes a real small percent on my desktop.

iTunes does have this option just double click on your playlist.....

ShadOW :)
 
Diatribe said:
Why on earth would you want to replace iTunes?

The BIG let down for iTunes is that it does not support other media formats and doesn't even allow third parties to create plugins for it. I have lots of flac, ogg vorbis, ape and wma files that I want to play in iTunes but can't. I have to convert them all to AAC or MP3 before playing which is a major inconvenience.
 
keymoo said:
The BIG let down for iTunes is that it does not support other media formats and doesn't even allow third parties to create plugins for it. I have lots of flac, ogg vorbis, ape and wma files that I want to play in iTunes but can't. I have to convert them all to AAC or MP3 before playing which is a major inconvenience.

Ok, I guess this makes sense. I only have AAC and Lossless so this is no issue for me.
 
wako said:
I have used iTunes for a week.. actually for a few months when I got my iPod until I found ephPod so I dont have to use iTunes. Main reason why I dont like is because its not as good as Winamp... and thats the real reason.

I really like how Winamp has the ability to have the playlist as a seperate entity, especially when I minimize it so it only takes a real small percent on my desktop.

iTunes, atleast when I test drove it for a few months when i minimized it to take a small percent of my desktop, it didnt go small enough and I couldnt browse through my playlist as well while it was minimized.

You say because it is better and only list size as an argument? For size try two things: Get either a dashboard widget or a Synergy like menu bar controller. To browse the playlists you can open up iTunes or use Quicksilver, which will let you search the entire iTunes catalog with one keyboard shortcut. Once you have found the song you're looking for you can add it to the jukebox or just play it.
 
Diatribe said:
Ok, I guess this makes sense. I only have AAC and Lossless so this is no issue for me.

I do like iTunes, and am considering converting all my music to an iTunes playable format. This will take a while though and I fear I might lose some of my meta data. I don't know why they are so restrictive on the format though - I'm sure it would gain further market penetration if it supported the most popular music formats. That's one of the reasons winAmp has been so successful.
 
Diatribe said:
You say because it is better and only list size as an argument? For size try two things: Get either a dashboard widget or a Synergy like menu bar controller. To browse the playlists you can open up iTunes or use Quicksilver, which will let you search the entire iTunes catalog with one keyboard shortcut. Once you have found the song you're looking for you can add it to the jukebox or just play it.



iTunes on a PC works different
 
amac4me said:
Are there any potential switchers here that will now wait to purchase a Mac now that Apple has announced the transition to Intel processors?

Well, I'm not getting a computer at all until the spring or summer before I go to university, which is next year. (I'm not a Mac user right now, although when I was, like, four, we had an Apple IIe. All I remember is the green and black screen... :) ) Which makes me a little concerned, because the timing seems to be about when the Intel Macs are scheduled to come out.

When exactly do they come out? Would getting one of this guinea pig computers be worse than getting one earlier with PowerPC?

Also I'm a little curious about the GHz numbers for Macs vs. PCs. Bearing in mind that I am fairly ignorant on the whole process (hey, it's a CPU and it can add. Good enough for me), why do Mac processing speeds seem so much lower than the ones at Dell? Like, 2.0GHz vs. 4. I've heard people say that you can't just measure computer speed based on those numbers, but why such a big difference?
 
Its simply because IBM failed the CPU wars.


Technically even though the speeds are lower, it doesnt mean you will have a slow computer. You can have the fastest computer but if the software was poorly coded you can still have a slow computer and vice versa if you had a slow computer but well coded software.

As for waiting for the Intel Macs... Im just about in the same boat as you. Im going to college next year and I need a new computer and I decided to get a Mac. I heard that the Intel Macs are suppose to come out early 2006, so Id be in school already (and already finished a semester). Im personally not going to wait that long. I usually go through a computer every 3 years. So by the time I think the powerbook Im going to get is done and dead, I can get a new Intel Mac. Also I wont be doing the waiting game because I NEED a computer. I dont plan on writing notes all day by hand. What a killer...
 
Hate Windows

I am not thinking of switching, I know I am going to switch. I just don't like Windows anymore. I guess you can say I'm somewhat of a switcher going to Red Hat Linux for now. I am going to buy an iBook (hopefully the next revision), when I get enough money from my parents (see my signature for current status.)

Last year, after taking a friend of my dad's to the airport, we stopped at the West County mall in the St. Louis area. I didn't know we were going there. When we walked in the mall, I practically ran to the Apple Store. I was in there for about an hour and a half just looking and using the Macs. That is the first day I experienced Mac OS X. I haven't been back there since because my parents won't let me go back until I have enough money. But when I do get my iBook, I will post right away.
 
You just hate windows because you dont have enough ram making your system freeze alot or crash
 
WithTea, while the Intel Macs are expected to start coming out second quarter of '06, they're going to hit the laptop lines first, then the other slow machines, and won't be replacing the high-end chips until '07 sometime. So it depends a bit on what kind of machine you want, as well as the "guinea pig" factor. Chances are the first few months are going to see an unusually high amount of problems as subtle bugs rise to the surface. If you're wanting a high-end machine I'd say buy before the chip switch happens. If you want a *Book though, you're probably best off waiting until a couple months after the chip switch, and seeing what reviewers are saying about the new chip functionality.

As far as the chip "speed", wako is completely wrong. Saying one chip is faster than another because it's got higher clock speed is like saying one car is better than another because it's got bigger wheels, and therefore goes farther each time the wheels turn. It completely ignores how the vehicle is actually built. CPUs have become monstrously complicated beasts. Tens of millions of transistors making up hundreds or thousands of processing subsections. Issues such as step count for floating-point calculations, # of registers, branch misprediction rates, percentage of null commands, and other highly technical geek stuff factor in. Intel's chips have higher clock rates than IBM's or AMD's, yet quite often perform worse due to focusing more on speed than complexity. When the G5's came out, they were undisputedly faster than anything Intel or AMD were selling. By now that edge has been lost, although the G5's are hardly behind on a dollar/performance basis.
A lot does have to do with how the software is written too. Mac has stuff like Final Cut that works faster than anything you can get for Windows. However your 3D realtime games are nearly universally better on Windows machines because the people who make them don't spend much time trying to optimize the huge graphics load for the Mac chipset. Finally, if what you do consists of web surfing, mail, basic photo editing... you're hardly ever going to use the full capacity of the chip anyways. So shrug and accept that some huge video file might take a half second longer to load into Quicktime, and appreciate the fact that your computer will pretty much never crash. How many half-seconds does it take to make up the time it takes to reboot Windows once?

BTW, between the official divx codec, 3ivx and FFusion, I can watch 99% of all .avi filetypes. Alll three are free, just drop into your /Library/Quicktime folder and start Quicktime. VLC Player does run more efficiently though, so it's a better choice for watching divx files with really high bitrates.
 
wako said:
You just hate windows because you dont have enough ram making your system freeze alot or crash


Im running on 256 and its fine for me!!!! It only freezes every couple of days...but what else would you expect from microsoft...
 
NtotheIzoo said:
I am looking at switching, but with law school this fall and examsoft, I might have to delay for a little while longer. I really want to buy a new powerbook and build myself a sweet gaming machine. I've been hanging around Mac sites for the past six or seven months, just sifting though threads. The good thing is that I'm going to wait till school starts and take out a school loan to buy the laptop...the big question is....IBM or Powerbook???

Well, I was going to buy a 15" Powerbook for law school and buy an old thinkpad on ebay for finals (examsoft), but after the mac-intel announcement, I'm not going to waste my money on a PPC model.

I just got done ordering a thinkpad T43 for law school for $1400 before taxes. Hopefully Longhorn will keep me somewhat happy in 2006, but Apple lost my $2000 sale.

I had to shop really hard for a PC decent PC laptop, I took the look and quality of powerbooks for granted.
 
ZildjianKX said:
Well, I was going to buy a 15" Powerbook for law school and buy an old thinkpad on ebay for finals (examsoft), but after the mac-intel announcement, I'm not going to waste my money on a PPC model.

I just got done ordering a thinkpad T43 for law school for $1400 before taxes. Hopefully Longhorn will keep me somewhat happy in 2006, but Apple lost my $2000 sale.

I had to shop really hard for a PC decent PC laptop, I took the look and quality of powerbooks for granted.

You buy a Mac for the OS NOT the chip. A chip is just a slave processing instructions - it is not the soul of a Mac, the OS is. I simply cannot understand why people are falling into this ridiculous intel trap. A 15" Powerbook would work exceptionally well for you for at least 3-4 years, at which time you'd want to upgrade again anyway.

Please people STOP THIS SILLY THINKING! :)
 
ZildjianKX said:
Well, I was going to buy a 15" Powerbook for law school and buy an old thinkpad on ebay for finals (examsoft), but after the mac-intel announcement, I'm not going to waste my money on a PPC model.

I just got done ordering a thinkpad T43 for law school for $1400 before taxes. Hopefully Longhorn will keep me somewhat happy in 2006, but Apple lost my $2000 sale.

I had to shop really hard for a PC decent PC laptop, I took the look and quality of powerbooks for granted.

Another thought is that only a PPC model will run ALL programs natively for the next several years. Intel based machines will have to pump some apps through Rosetta until everyone ports to universal binaries, which could take years depending on how lazy the programmers are.
 
pianodude123 said:
Im running on 256 and its fine for me!!!! It only freezes every couple of days...but what else would you expect from microsoft...


If you get 512 or more you wont ever freeze up
 
I just got another friend to switch

I'm happy to announce that I was able to get another friend to switch. He would come over to my house and use my mac to play with Garage Band. After playing with my Mac for a couple weeks on and off, he decided to purchase a 1.42 GHz Mac mini and picked it up at the Apple store this past Saturday.

Chalk up another Switcher :D
 
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