Anyone else disappointed by the 2.26ghz 8 core Nehalem Mac Pro's performance?

[Tesselator]

either way there seems to be 3 more additional big fans compared to the last gen. More dust build up to worry about and failures.

I think there will be less dust and what does occur will be more easily cleaned.
Here's my system after about 8 months of operation:

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And just think about what you have to remove to access that area of the pre-2009 Mac Pros.




BTW, 1 good fan per processor is the proper way to do it! Not like the old systems!
Here's a DELL Precision Workstation for example:

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[Spanky Deluxe]

I think there will be less dust and what does occur will be more easily cleaned.

Here's my system after about 8 months of operation.

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And just think about what you have to remove to access that area of the pre-2009 Mac Pros.

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Ohmygod!!! That looks like a cat's pooped all over your heat sinks!

 

[Tesselator]

Ohmygod!!! That looks like a cat's pooped all over your heat sinks!

Kinda huh?! It was a nice fuzzy blanket till I started peeling it. It peeled in strips kinda.

 

[Shaved Kitty]

my mac pro will be here tomorrow!!!!

2.66 with 16g of ram. i am going to cream my pants.

 

[Boneoh]

my mac pro will be here tomorrow!!!!

2.66 with 16g of ram. i am going to cream my pants.

LOL now THAT'S funny!

Here is a multiple choice question. Choose all that apply:

1. Can I watch?
2. I'd PAY to see that!
3. Does that happen often?
4. All of the above!

 

[bucksatan731]

Ordered mine today

Been waiting for a refresh to upgrade from my Dualcore Quicksilver, Ordered the Quad 2.66 with max Ram and the ATI Graphics card. I don't need the 8 Core Monster, but wonder how much difference the ATI will make over the NVIDIA? Any Ideas?

 

[nemodomi]

LOL now THAT'S funny!

Here is a multiple choice question. Choose all that apply:

1. Can I watch?
2. I'd PAY to see that!
3. Does that happen often?
4. All of the above!

How about keeping it in your pants and not feeding a troll?!

 

[osodeanteojos]

Blender Benchmark

Would you please take this blender test?

http://www.engadget.com/photos/apple-nehalem-based-mac-pro-unboxing-and-hands-on/1430907/

Thank you.

 

[jjahshik32]

Would you please take this blender test?

http://www.engadget.com/photos/apple-nehalem-based-mac-pro-unboxing-and-hands-on/1430907/

Thank you.

Thanks for the link. Wow the new design is absolutely beautiful.

One question, can you completely remove the side panel away or is it connected at the bottom?

 

[Dr.Pants]

Here's my system after about 8 months of operation:

Wow. I used to think my PC builds at home got bad, or the dust in the school Optiplexes got bad, but your system takes the cake for dust I've seen. Where one Earth do you live?!?!

Or does the MacPro just take in more dust then I'm used to seeing? Maybe I'm overreacting.

 

[Tesselator]

Wow. I used to think my PC builds at home got bad, or the dust in the school Optiplexes got bad, but your system takes the cake for dust I've seen. Where one Earth do you live?!?!

Or does the MacPro just take in more dust then I'm used to seeing? Maybe I'm overreacting.

I live in Japan. It's a little humid here which I guess contributes. I live in a traditional Japanese house with the cedar ceilings, mud walls, tatami covered wooden floors, and rice paper doors. http://www.kiarts.com/pages/interiors.html use the arrows for examples. I guess this contributes as well. There's always dust in this house. Everything NEEDS to be dusted every month or two. I also keep my fans at 1400~1600 RPM https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/7279225/ so even though it's still quite quiet, I'm sure the vacuum cleaner affect comes into play much more so than with the fans at 400 rpm or whatever ridiculously anal setting Apple sets them at.

 

[Chocolate Baby]

I am sorry but you all have gone mad!

First things first, if you start by bragging that you can buy anything you want and anything under a 2.93 Octo is below you...well lets just say that two words are coming to mind and it's initials are D & B.

I am in the market for my first pro and as "poor" & "bummy" as this may seem to some people, It looks like my target budget for my computer is around the price of the Octo 2.26 around 3500 W/tax. So I have seen all the tests, and I am still uncertain on what I should do. With the nehalem's new architecture being able to run multi threads to one core it sounds like I should go that route, however I am still debating on a previous gen. Does anyway have a definitive unbiased opinion or am I on my own....

 

[jjahshik32]

First things first, if you start by bragging that you can buy anything you want and anything under a 2.93 Octo is below you...well lets just say that two words are coming to mind and it's initials are D & B.

I am in the market for my first pro and as "poor" & "bummy" as this may seem to some people, It looks like my target budget for my computer is around the price of the Octo 2.26 around 3500 W/tax. So I have seen all the tests, and I am still uncertain on what I should do. With the nehalem's new architecture being able to run multi threads to one core it sounds like I should go that route, however I am still debating on a previous gen. Does anyway have a definitive unbiased opinion or am I on my own....

I know the 2.8GHz 8 core previous gen vs. the new nehalem 2.26GHz 8 core model is about the same in terms of speed (the 2.26GHz being a tad bit faster in multithread but not sure if its $500 more faster) but I think I would still go with the new Nehalem machines.

What those benchmarks doesnt probably show is how the whole new architecture handles memory, IO along with the speed of the CPU as a whole and especially in real world benchmarks.

I also believe you would be benefitting more when snow leopard has shipped.

 

[Chocolate Baby]

I know the 2.8GHz 8 core previous gen vs. the new nehalem 2.26GHz 8 core model is about the same in terms of speed (the 2.26GHz being a tad bit faster in multithread but not sure if its $500 more faster) but I think I would still go with the new Nehalem machines.

What those benchmarks doesnt probably show is how the whole new architecture handles memory, IO along with the speed of the CPU as a whole and especially in real world benchmarks.

I also believe you would be benefitting more when snow leopard has shipped.

Thank you that's more of a "feet on the ground diagnosis" I wonder if they are going to refresh the specs in terms of pricing for the entry level Octo.

 

[Dr.Pants]

I live in Japan. It's a little humid here which I guess contributes. I live in a traditional Japanese house with the cedar ceilings, mud walls, tatami covered wooden floors, and rice paper doors. http://www.kiarts.com/pages/interiors.html use the arrows for examples. I guess this contributes as well. There's always dust in this house. Everything NEEDS to be dusted every month or two. I also keep my fans at 1400~1600 RPM https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/7279225/ so even though it's still quite quiet, I'm sure the vacuum cleaner affect comes into play much more so than with the fans at 400 rpm or whatever ridiculously anal setting Apple sets them at.

Hrm. Well, that's strange. I'll keep in mind that humidity may be a cause of dust buildup. Some science student sees an expiriment in the near future I'll keep in mind that in addition to a colour calibrator I will also need a cheap hand vacuum cleaner.

Oh, BTW, I totally envy where you live, Tesselator. More envy for you then the guy that has a 2.93 Octo with maxed out Apple RAM. More envy then you can understand

First things first, if you start by bragging that you can buy anything you want and anything under a 2.93 Octo is below you...well lets just say that two words are coming to mind and it's initials are D & B.

I am in the market for my first pro and as "poor" & "bummy" as this may seem to some people, It looks like my target budget for my computer is around the price of the Octo 2.26 around 3500 W/tax. So I have seen all the tests, and I am still uncertain on what I should do. With the nehalem's new architecture being able to run multi threads to one core it sounds like I should go that route, however I am still debating on a previous gen. Does anyway have a definitive unbiased opinion or am I on my own....

I understand where you're coming from. I wish I could go for the base 2.26 Octo, but I may need to push the video card with some video editing, then adding in $$ that needs to be thrown at RAID and capture equipment and FCS, I might go with a 2.93 Quad with 6 GB RAM and the 4870. Yeah, render times are longer, but I think for what I need it would be a better value. That and if I'm doing workstation work, I tend to not keep other programs open. A holdover from my Windows days.

Funny story, I was finishing an essay on the school optiplexes.... Dual Core! And they kept crashing like you would never know! Just running Word 2007 and Explorer! [/rant]

 

[nanofrog]

school optiplexes....

This might have something to do with it.

 

[sjobs@mac.com]

2008 2.8 QuadCinebench results

1 core 3.216
4 cores 10,548
3.28 speed up

I have noticed that the 1 core score is pretty consistent, but the 4 core score does vary a bit more i.e. 10200-10800.

 

[Ploki]

I also believe you would be benefitting more when snow leopard has shipped.

why? you have 16 cores with 1.2ghz each basically...
and there you have 8 with 2.8ghz.
how does that affect snow leopard in anyway

I also keep my fans at 1400~1600 RPM https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/7279225/ so even though it's still quite quiet, I'm sure the vacuum cleaner affect comes into play much more so than with the fans at 400 rpm or whatever ridiculously anal setting Apple sets them at.

waw, i keep them at original speed, and after a year i have probably 90% less dust.
however we do have brick walls and less humid atmosphere.

https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/7287708/
and i still have ambient temp less

however i do have too little ram. :S much less than you anyway.

 

[osodeanteojos]

Blender Benchmark

Hi, all!

Here are my benchmark results. I'm not at all disappointed, but my previous machine was an original MacBook Pro, so there is no real comparison there.

Machine is 2.26 octo w 6 GB memory, and 4870. Boot drive is Intel SSD and user volume is 3 velociraptors in Raid 0 stripe.

Geekbench http://browse.geekbench.ca/geekbench2/view/116463

Cinebench R10 and digLloydTools images are attached. The digLloydTools was run while Activity Monitor, Mail, iTunes, etc. was running. The machine was still very responsive, even when running 16 threads at 100% cpu. Very nice! Kind of strange to see the CPU displays running 16 threads at 100%.

Would you please make the blender 3d benchmark, they have one file with the one anyone of us could make it, and since Blender is free it's the app anyone could have. Here is the URL: http://www.eofw.org/bench/

Thanks.

 

[jjahshik32]

why? you have 16 cores with 1.2ghz each basically...
and there you have 8 with 2.8ghz.
how does that affect snow leopard in anyway

Not necessarily, you could even say 8 cores with 2 threads in each core that each thread is just as fast as the other threads thus same thing as 16 physical cores.

Also considering 40% less latency with 2x overall faster memory speed (I think this is the most important part people tend to forget that memory speed will be a HUGE factor). And the good use for the qpi.

 

[osodeanteojos]

Yes

Thanks for the link. Wow the new design is absolutely beautiful.

One question, can you completely remove the side panel away or is it connected at the bottom?

Yes you can, and sorry about the link, the url for the blender test is: http://www.eofw.org/bench/
Run it and tell us how did it go with your mac.

 

[Pika]

I think there will be less dust and what does occur will be more easily cleaned.
Here's my system after about 8 months of operation:

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And just think about what you have to remove to access that area of the pre-2009 Mac Pros. :([/QUOTE]

Do you put your Mac Pro on a carpet.

 

[amoergosum]

How well does the 2.26Ghz 8 core perform Photoshop CS4-wise?

 

[jjahshik32]

Someone just posted these scores:

Maxwell test file: sculpture.mxs (www.benchwell.com)

Scores

New Mac Pro 8-core 2.26ghz 6GB

Benchmark - 1613.28
Render Time - 6m38s

Old Mac Pro 8-core 3.2GHz 16GB

Benchmark - 1459.33
Render Time - 7m21s

I'm starting to feel better about the 2.26GHz model now after some benchmarks have come in. At first I wanted the 2.66GHz, now it seems the 2.26GHz is more than enough especially being $1400 cheaper. I mean whats a minute difference in waiting for rendering to finish as to the 2.93GHz which costs $2600 more?

In most cases it seems to be faster than the 3.2GHz 8 core of last gen.

 

[Lucibelle]

In most cases it seems to be faster than the 3.2GHz 8 core of last gen.

...while using almost 1/3 less RAM.

But ultimately, it's going to depend on the software's ability to utilize what these machines can do, of course. I'm looking forward to using DP6 on this beast. I wish I had other models to compare it to, but I can already tell you that there is no comparison with my hubby's 1.25G G4 mini. My 1G DP G4 died some time ago.