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But besides a small reskin, the thing is the exact same. It's like applying a theme to your browser that changes it just slightly. It's not like everything is different. Lion from my experience is about 95% the same as SL.

Did you not see the "heat map" in the month view? There are many changes, not just a skinning of the app.
 
Give us the Option...

Some like it, some HATE it... and I'm one of them that hates it. It just bothers me being the aesthetic junkie I am.

APPLE... or someone... please give us the option to turn the leather off and go with the classic (Leopard) look... and the fabric looking login screen too. The star field was so much more high tech.

And while you're at it, Apple, why not give us the option to combine iCal, Mail, and Address book, into one app. like Outlook?
 
Yes!

Launchpad is a perfect example of forcing iOS features on the Mac platform, usability be damned. The most awkward piece of software I've used since WinXP. It's like a game trying to sort the icons on that thing and you can't win.
 
Yes!

Launchpad is a perfect example of forcing iOS features on the Mac platform, usability be damned. The most awkward piece of software I've used since WinXP. It's like a game trying to sort the icons on that thing and you can't win.

tell me who the hell is FORCING you to use this, and i'll give you a cookie.
 
The movement to an iOS-ey interface has made me think about scooping up a monster deal from HP.

Wow. Really? HP? Windows? Voluntarily? ;)

Even if I didn't like the look of it, I'd just apply the Lion and start looking for things to make the cosmetics more to my liking.
 
If anything the changes brought by Lion has me tempted to sell my Windows computer which is laying by my left leg at the minute, hosting APi feeds and being storage and buying the base model new Mini.

I salute Apple on Lion, for a zero day OS I am stunned, I was zero day with Vista, and then Windows 7(better but still...)

Brilliant rollout and the OS is smooth. I had a Bootcamp NTFS partition which was untouched and the installation went perfectly.
 
tell me who the hell is FORCING you to use this, and i'll give you a cookie.

Like I said, a perfect example of forcing an iOS feature on the Mac. The platform, not me. It clearly doesn't lend itself to the platform.

Obviously I'm not going to touch it apart from giving it a try. But it is indicative of the direction of future OSX versions and I'm afraid that eventually, when I don't simply want to use it, it'll mean the whole OS.
 
Dump the Leather...

I figured out how to dump the leather look in iCal.

Look inside Applications/iCal then 'Show Package contents', then in the resources folder you'll see the leather PNG files and lots of other little PNG's that you can change in Photoshop and re-save to another folder and then move those files back into the resources folder replacing the originals (typing your password each time) (backup the originals). Yep, a PITA, but unless someone gives us an option to turn the leather look off, it's the only way for now.

I also tried running iCal from Snow Leopard, but it gets an error.
 
While I think iCal and Address Book do look a little off compared to the rest of the GUI, it actually makes a bit of sense when you think about it. While most of the other apps in Lion are simply apps that only exist as computer programs, iCal and Address Book are computer equivalents of real, physical things. A web browser can only look like a web browser because it has no real world equivalent, but why not make a calender or an address book look like a calendar or an address book?

Lion just can't win today. People complain about Lion killing what was left of Aqua while others complain about it looking overly cutesy. People say 30 bucks is too much money for a minor upgrade and others say it is the dumbing down of the once great OS X.

I think Lion is a major and positive change for OS X . Gestures is a new way to interact with desktop computers and the new autosave feature, to me at least, is a radical way to work with and conceptualize documents. This, coupled with sensible upgrades to Mail, Safari and a host of other apps, seems to be a good example of a successful new OS. Some radical changes here and some gradual evolution and polishing there.

The iOSing of OS X is simply making use of the experiences of iPhone and iPad users. The traditional understanding (and the metaphors used by that understanding) of how an operating system works is changing because of smart phones, tablets and the internet (especially the last five years). The technological and conceptual limitations that made a need for the folder and the desktop metaphors are gone. Now the GUI that made use of that conceptualization of a computer is beginning to leave.
 
It's all about options. You can go with the grey look, so the buttons don't show red, yellow or green... or blue... that still shows them. You can set Mail to use the Classic or new layout and turn off many of the new Lion features off.

SO, why not let users use iCal and Address Book with the original SL look? It obviously offends a lot of users, so the least Apple could do would be to let users decide... not force something on them.

Yes, it's well worth the $29... It was worth that just so that I could encrypt my portable time machine drive and not worry about it being stolen and having all my data in someone else's hands. But, again, the encryption was an option.
 
while you're at it, Apple, why not give us the option to combine iCal, Mail, and Address book, into one app. like Outlook?
I agree with you about the new look of iCal and Address Book... I find it to be gaudy and as soon as there is a hack to get the SL look back, I'm going to change it.

I can't say I mind the animations, though. In fact I like those.

However, about Outlook... I despised Outlook both in the way it is a labyrinth of unintuitive settings and sluggishness. Many people at work joke about launching Outlook, then going for coffee while it loads whereas OS X Mail and Thunderbird load the same mail Outlook chokes on from the same MS Exchange servers very quickly. I much prefer the way OS X Mail is now (separate apps which share underlying data).

If you like Outlook better, though, you might want to check out Entourage.
 
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I agree with you about the new look of iCal and Address Book... I find it to be gaudy and as soon as there is a hack to get the SL look back, I'm going to change it.

I can't say I mind the animations, though. In fact I like those.

However, about Outlook... I despised Outlook both in the way it is a labyrinth of unintuitive settings and sluggishness. Many people at work joke about launching Outlook, then going for coffee while it loads whereas OS X Mail and Thunderbird load the same mail Outlook chokes on from the same MS Exchange servers very quickly. I much prefer the way OS X Mail is now (separate apps which share underlying data).

If you like Outlook better, though, you might want to check out Entourage.

Well, it's Outlook 2011 today, but I hear it doesn't sync well with MobileMe and the iPhone etc... not as smoothly as the Apple suite anyway. NOPE, don't want to go back to MS apps. and you're right about it being slow etc... :)

I can launch Address book, iCal, and Mail, all very quickly, so I'm not sure it'd be a big deal to combine them. After all, they use much of the same data anyway.

As far as skins go, I'd dug into iCal's resources folder, yesterday, and started re-skinning with Photoshop, but have since found a guy that's already done it all:
http://macnix.blogspot.com/

Ahhhh.... but we still have the horrible interface on Lion's Address Book, that I hope Apple will give us the option to use the classic interface.
 
Wow. Really? HP? Windows? Voluntarily? ;)

Even if I didn't like the look of it, I'd just apply the Lion and start looking for things to make the cosmetics more to my liking.

WebOS looks better than iOS when applied to desktops and, it appears, we'll be seeing WebOS laptops soon. If i want something like Apple is doing with Leopard, i'll just go w/ HP when they release the WebOS MBA competitors.
 
What's going on

Mail, iCal, AddressBook, Full Screen Apps? What is going on? Not everyone loves the stupid iPad, can we have the Mac back?
 
On iOS too, but mostly on Lion?

Address book and iCal look like crap. I don't want a faux reality look, I want a clean interface to do my work. I especially don't like these cutsey looks of those apps mixing in with a clean look for the rest of the OS (Mail, Safari, etc), has Apple lost all sense of design aesthetics with this?

Unified is the key, unlike what they're now doing in iOS too (iMovie for the iPhone went to hell after the last update).

I agree. I didn't HATE the cute design but the Finder/File list/icons were really unappealing. Contrast with Windows where you can choose your own icons if you want and where the design is clean and professional.
 
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