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Anyone else miss the old MacBook Pro design?
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Yes, but the other cables is of no concern?
I do think there's some risk for people who are plugged in at coffeeshops as they often string their stuff out like they're daring people to fall over it. On the other hand, the battery life in the new MBPs are so good that I haven't used a charger in public in almost three years.
And what the hell am I doing here. This is the same not pointless, but nonetheless time wasting same discussion everyone keeps having here and with some of the same people no less. Me gotta stop procrastinating and get back to work on that project that I'm avoiding.
Didn't the older MBP have a larger battery thus better battery life? I think the full charge capacity was ~9000mAh for MBP 2015 vs ~7000mAh for the new ones.
If you want legacy support, you don’t buy a Mac. Also, you are contradicting yourself. The first MagSafe lived for 6 years, the second just 4 if you look at the MBP. I still remember how we had to buy all those adapters to make our old chargers work with MagSafe 2. USB-C is much more future-proof than that. Not to mention it’s an industry standard.
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In my experience, USB-C disconnects just as easily when you stumble across the cable. Not to mention that MagSafe is not working that reliably with the latest generation of lightweight computers. You need to make the magnets weaker at which point the connection becomes unreliable.
I have several adapters. It's very handy with three Macs. So 10 years of life.
Legacy support on Macs is fine. You just use old Macs.
Magsafe is fine.
I use it daily with multiple machines.
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I don't know how well the 2013 rMBP that I was referencing stacks up in typical usage against a current day MBP as my own usage involves multiple servers or VMs running all the time and kills batteries, but from Apple's specifications we get:
15" 2013 rMBP: Up to 8 hours on a 95 watt-hour battery
15" 2015 rMBP: Up to 10 hours on a 99.5 watt-hour battery
15" 2016 MBP: Up to 10 hours on a 76.0 watt-hour battery
15" 2018 MBP: Up to 10 hours on a 83.6 watt-hour battery
In any case, I never owned one of the rMBP lines. I probably wouldn't have needed a charger for one of the later models as well. The 2012 15" Unibody that I had was rated for 7 hours and I typically got 3-4 hours out of it if I didn't push it.
My current 2018 MBP gets 4-6 hours reliably under my normal usage conditions. If I shut down my VMs and just did normal user stuff, I'm pretty good for going most of the day.
I would definitely like to see the SD slot return if nothing else, that's just straight out lost functionality when you need to have a plug-in adapter. It's not like other things where you can just change the cable for one ending in a type C connector.
Well, a quick google and I'm still seeing reports of much the same issues now. Like the infamous keyboards, this seems to be something the design can allow to happen even if the product is manufactured to within the design tolerance.
Sure, though I was saying about how it's possible to have both, not what reasons there are for choosing one or the other. As for cables, I can't say the MS ones are any better or worse than any other Apple cable I've had. The one benefit of the new design is the cable alone can be switched out as it's detachable from the block, and this could also be done with a MagSafe end if they really wanted to.
My 2015 13" is perfect in my eyes, due to reading opinions on here and using my budgeting I was able to afford/find a great mint one. No keyboard worries, I need the ports, the magsafe is awesome and the light on the rear logo is cool and gives character.
It consumes no energy. It merely exposes the screen's backlight. You can check this by dimming the screen and watching the Apple logo dim.
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The previous models were just a half pound heavier - I don't notice the change in weight at all. I think you noticed going from a 17" to a 15". I called my 2010 17" macbook Pro "the bowling ball", because while the base specs were 6.5 pounds, I had it loaded up to 8.5 pounds with extra hard drives and a case. But even then, it's the other things in my backpack that made it heavy, and with the new Macbook Pros, I have to carry a backpack full of dongles and external drives.
Funny - both my 2010 17" MBP and my 2015 15" MBP I upgraded to 2TB SSDs. But those didn't become available on the butterfly MBPs until last year, and then only if you bought them new for $4000+.
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I’m deadlifting 210 in the gym now which isn’t much for an athlete but it’s very good for someone my age. Our fitness center manager who weighs 90 pounds can do 180. I carry 30 pounds of stuff in and out of the office daily. Sometimes up to 35. That’s why it’s no problem carrying a 17. Or two. Weight training is highly recommended for older people as you lose muscle mass faster and it can lead to injuries.
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I don't miss anything about older MacBook Pros (except for one thing).
- Magsafe was really nice, but I'm not careless so it's not an issue.
- The glowing logo was clever, but I don't care what other people think about what computer I use—and that's the only reason for that glowing logo.
- I certainly don't miss the "heft"
- A plethora of ports was nice, but I've yet to come across a need for any of them since getting the USBC-only MBPro over a year ago.
- I hated the old keyboard with its "jiggly" keys. I LOVE the new keyboard's low-profile design!
- I DO miss the physical F-Keys. I agree completely with most people about the Touch Bar being a useless gimmick.
I picked up a really good deal on a used 13" 2015 (force touch trackpad) MacBook Pro the other day from a cash generator (local pawn shop chain in the UK, I WOULD not recommend buying from them usually) for around £350. Surprisingly great condition and low battery cycle count and performance is still pretty good as well as a clean MagSafe port. I've never owned one of the older retina MBPs before now but I've owned a 2017 base model MBP (escape) before realising it wasn't for me and getting the 2018 Dell Latitude I have now.
Honestly my perspective is a bit mixed:
Honestly my perspective is a bit mixed:
- Aesthetically I much prefer the design of the newer Pros especially in space grey
- I preferred the weight of the 2017 mbp but both feel really sturdy and well made
- I didn't mind the butterfly keyboard much at the time, but my x key failed and typing in bed hurt my hands a lot
- Keyboard on the 2015 is arguably better but the amount of key wobble throws me off sometimes.
- Having this many common ports on the same size machine as my old main MacBook feels weird, but I finally understand why a lot of people where upset over the switch to just thunderbolt 3 better.
- I miss that huge trackpad, battery life is about the same, 2015 runs a little warmer but not worryingly warm or hot.
I whole heartedly agree with everything you just said, but an extra half a pound or a pound is still a lot of weight depending on the circumstances. I say this as someone who came close to bench pressing twice his weight in his younger days and is still very fit. It's not the carry in and out of the office where weight is an issue. It's the all day carry where half a pound or a pound feels like a lot and this wasn't something that really became clear to me until I started hauling around a 2016 MBP instead of a 2012 Unibody (about 1lb more) and it wasn't only the weight that made it feel lighter. The shape combined with the lighter weight was easier to handle.
I used to be one of those meatheads who laughed at people who complained about things weighing too much. Two shoulder injuries, a few bouts with wrist tendinitis, and many miles trekked on foot with all sorts of gear in addition to my laptop, I get it. The weight of everything I carry is still trivial to me as someone who's athletically inclined, but it's not trivial to my body in general when it becomes an all day burden or when my hands hurt from too much typing, photography, or other manual tasks.
I'm still not going to shy away from a product that has extra weight, but I'm no longer one of those people who dismisses the benefits of lightness.
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You hate it, but don't know that it doesn't consume power?
that's rather ignorant of you...
im at 405 for 2
at 150 pounds but been training for 15 years. I agree that a 1 pound difference doesn't make any change especially if its in a bag. My old 13" was 4.5 pounds(2011) and my 15" now is 4 pounds and way lighter. It feels more portable to me. The weight of it is nothing I never think of these laptops as bulky or even care about the weight. I carry it around with one hand all the time like an iPad.
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I like the glow. I just do.
#Metoo. Even today, whenever I see a Macbook in a TV show it ALWAYS has a glowing logo. It should come back now Ives has gone, let's go with glow.
Ive is still there.
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Ive is still there.
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Perhaps I should have used Outgoing over Gone. Also I don’t actually know Ive rubbed out the glowing logo.
