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Mr Ed said:
Wow, you just totally skipped over all of their important and good points, just to brag that you're right.
Then why don't you enlighten us and explain them eh?

You definately have no case calling OS X a non-proprietary OS... just because something is based on BSD doesn't make it BSD.

http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=5612
Of course, you both fail to mention that just about everything underneath the GUI (and no iApps and such) is open-source, through Apple
 
ZildjianKX said:
Wow, you just totally skipped over all of their important and good points, just to brag that you're right.

Just because someone says anything at all "anti-apple," everyone is so quick to label them a troll when in fact they may be right or have some good points.

The point regarding the fairplay DRM is hardly moot. The iPod is a closed device to anything other than the iTunes music store for legal music. This may not be a big deal to you, but being the #1 MP3 player and refusing to share your proprietary standard is. Speaking of proprietary, let's not forget the proprietary firewire port on the new iPods.

All of your points regarding 802.11 and zeroconf are really streaching it... that's like saying because iChat uses UDP Apple is on the forefront of open standards. You definately have no case calling OS X a non-proprietary OS... just because something is based on BSD doesn't make it BSD.

http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=5612

In another point, tell me why exactly it took Apple so long to use USB 2.0? Could it be because of a little thing called firewire?

In case you don't recall, Apple orignally charged $2 per port per device for licensing fees... and hence didn't adopt USB 2.0 in macs so their own standard would succeed.
www.macnn.com/feature.php?id=59

You both have some good points, but please don't be blinded that you're the only person with a valid opinion.

I addressed their points, and then moved on to what should have been the conclusion of the argument - my time is precious and I didn't care to pore over every iota of what was stated since the conclusion was at hand.

There is nothing inherently negative about the term in question, and I never argued it from the standpoint of pro/anti-Apple. I was addressing the over-generalization. Nice try painting me as a zealot.

The DRM argument is moot since there is no "standard" DRM available.

Apple's use of the BSD requires them to open their changes to the core back to the community. Try again.

This is not an issue of opinion but one of fact - remove the log from thine own eye...
 
übergeek said:
/me sighs
could one of you at least try forcing it in?

I've tried forcing it, it wouldn't work on my MS Natural Keyboard Pro. Hence my modification.

Your welcome everyone for trying it out. Man, my simple tutorial turned into a horrible topic of people getting pissed off. I thought mac people are suppose to be nice :)
 
Rower_CPU said:
I addressed their points, and then moved on to what should have been the conclusion of the argument - my time is precious and I didn't care to pore over every iota of what was stated since the conclusion was at hand.

There is nothing inherently negative about the term in question, and I never argued it from the standpoint of pro/anti-Apple. I was addressing the over-generalization. Nice try painting me as a zealot.

The DRM argument is moot since there is no "standard" DRM available.

Apple's use of the BSD requires them to open their changes to the core back to the community. Try again.

This is not an issue of opinion but one of fact - remove the log from thine own eye...

Someone wake up on the wrong side of the bed today?

I argued points that are equally as valid as yours, including reputable sources. You completely ignore my point of view and toss it aside without giving it further thought. That sir, does make you a zealot. I shouldn't have expected more from a mod on a mac board. Mac people are suppose to have open minds, not closed minds.
 
Mr Ed said:
Someone wake up on the wrong side of the bed today?

I argued points that are equally as valid as yours, including reputable sources. You completely ignore my point of view and toss it aside without giving it further thought. That sir, does make you a zealot. I shouldn't have expected more from a mod on a mac board. Mac people are suppose to have open minds, not closed minds.

What you don't seem to grasp is this very simple concept:

An absolute statement was made: Everything Apple makes is proprietary.

All it takes to disprove an absolute statement is one piece of evidence to the contrary. I provided evidence to the contrary in spades.

End of discussion. Nice try tag teaming me (funny that you guys share an IP or two in your records). :rolleyes:
 
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