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Having used the ipad pro for some time, the air really feels cramped. But the pro just isn't the right size for me, mainly because of the weight.

To me it really seems like the ipad air could gain an inch or 1 1/2 to be the perfect device. Am I the only one here?
 
comming from a regular ipad to a Pro i cant go back. for me my 'old' ipad now feels most obsolete and 'toy' like.

but, the Pro for me personally is perfecto. infact, even an inch or 2 bigger would be nice. but that said, it is too unwieldy for general bed/couch/slobbing about (i only use it for business) . i'm now thinking of a mini4. never done minis before. the way smaller size just seems more appealing for some reason than a regular ipad / ipad pro inbetweener for some reason for casual and vacation use.
 
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MSFT and Samsung occupy that space.

and why is that no reason for apple to go for it?

comming from a regular ipad to a Pro i cant go back. for me my 'old' ipad now feels most obsolete and 'toy' like.

but, the Pro for me personally is perfecto. infact, even an inch or 2 bigger would be nice. but that said, it is too unwieldy for general bed/couch/slobbing about. i'm now thinking of a mini4. never done minis before. the way smaller size just seems more appealing for some reason than a regular ipad / ipad pro inbetweener for some reason for casual and vacation use.

I don't know though. I have always looked at the 12" macbook screen size and thought it would be the perfect size for an ipad... the pro just seems to be too big and the air too small for my taste. I mean the pro is almost double the size of the air.
 
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10" is about the perfect size, its not too big (or heavy like the IPP), its not too small (like the mini for movie watching)..
So to many id guess the iPad Air will continue to be the main stay..
 
4:3 aspect ratio is perfect. If they expanded the screen out so that the current iPad was bezel free, I think the form factor would be perfect for a hybrid tablet product. But I don't think the current physical size of the entire tablet should get much larger.
 
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You're right. Apple should release iPad's for each whole inch number between the iWatch and the 27" iMac. I mean, if there is even a single consumer for each one, it qualifies as an untapped market.

Economies of scale be damned.
 
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I don't know though. I have always looked at the 12" macbook screen size and thought it would be the perfect size for an ipad...
But the MacBook is just 12.2" vs the Pro's 12.9". There really isn't a huge difference.

Personally I think the screen size on the Pro is perfect, it just needs to be brought down to a pound so it'll be a little more wieldly.
 
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comming from a regular ipad to a Pro i cant go back. for me my 'old' ipad now feels most obsolete and 'toy' like.

but, the Pro for me personally is perfecto. infact, even an inch or 2 bigger would be nice. but that said, it is too unwieldy for general bed/couch/slobbing about (i only use it for business) . i'm now thinking of a mini4. never done minis before. the way smaller size just seems more appealing for some reason than a regular ipad / ipad pro inbetweener for some reason for casual and vacation use.

Totally (respectfully) disagree about being unwieldy. It is without the Smart Cover, but with, works perfectly for couch/bed surfing. I mean ideal. This is a game changer for me, and could be a do it all device.

I picked up my air, and yes, it feels like a mini now, and a toy. No going back for me. IMO, ideal size, would be 1" less but I'm not complaining one iota.
 
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If Apple used a 326ppi screen, they could make an iPad with the Pro's resolution that is about 10.5". I don't see it as a separate product, but potentially a replacement for the iPad Air 2-3 generations out.
 
Having used an iPP and now a Surface Pro 4, I do find the surface's 12.3" form factor less clumsy to carry around.
 
But the MacBook is just 12.2" vs the Pro's 12.9". There really isn't a huge difference.

Personally I think the screen size on the Pro is perfect, it just needs to be brought down to a pound so it'll be a little more wieldly.
I have both and the iPad Pro dwarfs my rMB considerably and it's not even close. The same goes for my 13" rMBP.
 
Frankly I think this can be a non ending quest to find the 'perfect' sized iPad.

2010 the iPad size was perfect.
2 years later many thought the mini was the perfect sized iPad.
1-2 years after that, the IPad Airs were released, and then many thought the slimmer side bezels made the iPad overall size again ideal, and preferable to the mini.
This year, for many the Airs have become ridiculously small due to the release of the Pro.

Our perception of what is ideal/preferable/unacceptable is constantly changing.

you might think an 11-12" iPad would be ideal now, only until the next version is released, at which point you might change your mind.

Enjoy the iPad options you have now.
 
Part of the problem are the Massive bezels the Ipad pro has, I'm sure they could make it better down the line but it's a problem even Iphones have at the moment (Devices with bigger screens but much smaller bodies etc)
 
But the pro just isn't the right size for me, mainly because of the weight.

It seems you've answered your own question. You don't really need an in-between size, you just need a lighter iPad Pro. And I agree. But this is a first-gen iPad Pro, I'm sure the 2nd generation will be more ergonomic.
 
Part of the problem are the Massive bezels the Ipad pro has, I'm sure they could make it better down the line but it's a problem even Iphones have at the moment (Devices with bigger screens but much smaller bodies etc)

I gotta disagree here... the iPad pros bezels couldn't really get much smaller... There would be no way to hold it at all...
 
You're right. Apple should release iPad's for each whole inch number between the iWatch and the 27" iMac. I mean, if there is even a single consumer for each one, it qualifies as an untapped market.

Economies of scale be damned.

I think that's Samsung's strategy normally... :)
 
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and why is that no reason for apple to go for it?



I don't know though. I have always looked at the 12" macbook screen size and thought it would be the perfect size for an ipad... the pro just seems to be too big and the air too small for my taste. I mean the pro is almost double the size of the air.
I wouldn't say it's almost double the size. The Air is about 10" and the Pro is about 13". That's far from almost double. If there was anything in between those two sizes there would be little reason to go with the Pro unless Apple had Pro-exclusive features.
 
and why is that no reason for apple to go for it?
One very good reason for Apple not to "go for it" would be that developer support for the iPP's screen size/resolution has already been slow going; adding yet another variable to account for dilutes the hardware lineup even more and makes developer support that much more frustrating.

Creating a huge swath of variable screen sizes just introduces complications along with diminishing returns. The likelihood is that Apple is going to focus on the iPP as their premium tablet and you won't see any other screen sizes from them, at least for a while. Shrinking bezels, on the other hands, is almost a guarantee.

I mean the pro is almost double the size of the air.
1.3x is not really "almost" 2x.
 
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