Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.

kybldmstr

macrumors 6502a
Original poster
Oct 12, 2011
788
380
New Orleans, LA
Just an assumption that since Apple has to be producing these things so quickly that we may see a spike in defective watches. Anyone else worried about this?
 
Just an assumption that since Apple has to be producing these things so quickly that we may see a spike in defective watches. Anyone else worried about this?
No. It seems with every release the over persnickity come out of the wood work to deride this or that. The screen bleed through issue and such on iPads stands out in my mind. And to be fair, there is a small population that are genuinely impacted. So back to you question, upon further reflection I'll amend to say....not in the least.

edit: Removed a mild dig at complainers that probably isn't fair and doesn't contribute to the discussion.
 
Last edited:
Just an assumption that since Apple has to be producing these things so quickly that we may see a spike in defective watches. Anyone else worried about this?

That's why we have warranties. Defects can happen with any type of merchandise you buy.

Granted; this situation may be a little different because if they needed to replace your Apple Watch there might not be any available :eek:
 
Don't read this forum for a month after you get your watch. Somebody will find some exceptionally minor defect you never would have noticed, but now that someone else pointed it out, you see it and are depressed about it.
 
I try not to worry about what's out of my control.

Seeing they have Apple care though I'm curious to see if they will have ample replacements from launch at the genius bar for those who purchased protection
 
Just an assumption that since Apple has to be producing these things so quickly that we may see a spike in defective watches. Anyone else worried about this?

Thanks for putting this thought in my head. I always thought Apple was perfect. Now I have to cancel my order to remove this thought from my head. Appreciate it.
 
I try not to worry about what's out of my control.

Seeing they have Apple care though I'm curious to see if they will have ample replacements from launch at the genius bar for those who purchased protection

That's why we have warranties. Defects can happen with any type of merchandise you buy.

Granted; this situation may be a little different because if they needed to replace your Apple Watch there might not be any available :eek:

Yeah I'm not worried so much that I will get a deceptive product as much as I am worried that if I do get a defect then there will not be enough brown box stock to give me a replacement in-store
 
Supply is supposedly tight due to low yields. That means completed components or whole products not meeting QA standards. It's quite likely that this launch has unusually exacting standards and will see even less acceptance of minor flaws.

In other words, I won't worry about it. Also, AppleCare.
 
Anyone else worried about defects?

I work in Quality (Supplier Quality in fact) so worrying about defects is my life... :)

But seriously, I've audited a Foxconn facility before. They don't screw around with Quality and neither does Apple. They have their stuff together in a big way.
 
Last edited:
I think there's a reasonable chance of defects, but Apple have a good history of replacing defective product batches.
 
Last edited:
Light bleed. Yellow screen. Laggy UI. Chafing edges. Dead pixels. Runs hot. Battery capacity. Only lasts 2 hours. BT and WiFi drops. Won't connect.

And. .........

MY APPLE WATCH IS BENT!!!!

It's alllll coming. Tis the life.

Exploding batteries! That'd be fun, with a watch.
 
Don't read this forum for a month after you get your watch. Somebody will find some exceptionally minor defect you never would have noticed, but now that someone else pointed it out, you see it and are depressed about it.

I have been reading it and never been worried. I read all times about buggs and stuff on iOS and problems wth iPhones. Still enjoyng my iPhone 6 more and more with every day. I have learn to ignore most of the crys around here.
 
I work in Quality (Supplier Quality in fact) so worrying about defects is my life... :)

But seriously, I've audited a Foxconn facility before. They don't screw around with Quality and neither does Apple. They have their stuff together in a big way.

I believe the :apple:watch is made by Quanta. If you do a little research you will see that the defect rate is pretty high. Presumably, these are caught and corrected prior to being packaged. Quanta also "borrowed" some 3000 Foxconn employees to speed up production this spring.
 
I wasn't until this post. I have no doubt Apple would replace any that have a defect, but it does probably mean you'll be waiting until july for that replacement
 
Apple tends to have white box stock for replacing defective hardware at launches. They come in the same box as their refurbs do, but they're just new stock set aside for any potential warranty issues.
 
I believe the :apple:watch is made by Quanta. If you do a little research you will see that the defect rate is pretty high. Presumably, these are caught and corrected prior to being packaged. Quanta also "borrowed" some 3000 Foxconn employees to speed up production this spring.


Ah didn't realize it wasn't Foxconn making them. I think what you're referring to is the product yield rate meaning the percentage of product that makes or through the manufacturing process and conforms to specifications. Defects caught during processing are still waste (muda) and could affect how many people get watches at first but wouldn't result in receiving a "defective" watch. This same logic could be at the component level as well (like the displays) which would result in a supply chain bottle neck.

A defective watch is an escape defect which is, by definition, something not caught systemically by the CM or Apple (there are usually inspection schemes used with a statistical Acceptable Quality Level (AQL) that defines how many defects you will allow to pass in a given sampling program for a certain type of defect). So, in short I worry about product yield levels but not actually receiving a defective/non-functional watch.
 
Just an assumption that since Apple has to be producing these things so quickly that we may see a spike in defective watches. Anyone else worried about this?

Production doesn't occur faster just because there is a backlog of orders. Nor will future slow down. It takes as long as it takes to make a watch. That might change in the future due to production efficiencies, but if anything will probably decrease.
 
If anyone can find a defect it will be one of the loyal fans who return 5-6 devices each release till they find one that is acceptable.

No doubt we will hear what these "defects" are on the forum.
 
Just an assumption that since Apple has to be producing these things so quickly that we may see a spike in defective watches. Anyone else worried about this?

Don't worry. That is why early adopters are for. To find and fix any possible defects so that "us" June delivery buyers will get a perfect watch.
 
Light bleed. Yellow screen. Laggy UI. Chafing edges. Dead pixels. Runs hot. Battery capacity. Only lasts 2 hours. BT and WiFi drops. Won't connect.

And. .........

MY APPLE WATCH IS BENT!!!!

It's alllll coming. Tis the life.

The point is not lost on me. However OLED screens do not ever exhibit light bleed because they are not backlit. This is one worry to scratch off the list.
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.