Anyone even use Camino?

wako

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I was wondering if anyone uses Camino.


It seems that most Mac users are committed to only Safari and Firefox. I must say that Firefox is one hell of a browser and I would never use anything else on my PC, however Camino is more or less Firefox since both are mozilla and its built for the mac.


How come everyone neglects Camino?
 

rendezvouscp

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Not everyone neglects Camino. :) I know that I just prefer Safari because I'm a .Mac user, and some people prefer Firefox because they use both Macs and PCs, and for the rest out there there's great browsers like Camino and Shiira. Don't worry, Camino is anything but neglected.

With that, do you use Camino?
-Chase
 
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Chaszmyr

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Personally, Camino would be my third choice browser behind Safari and Firefox. Firefox took away most of Camino's marketshare, the only person I can think of off the top of my head who uses Camino is my buddy wrc fan
 
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Nermal

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I used to use Camino as a secondary browser (Safari as primary), but I don't see the need for it anymore - Safari can access virtually every site I visit these days.

Last time I tried Firefox, it was too buggy for me. The Windows version is a lot better though.
 
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nightGeo

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I use Camino as my main browser. Safari seems to crash on me just too much (I kinda gave up on it during Panther, maybe it is better under Tiger?).

Firefox didn't use the keychain, so passwords et cetera had to be remembered twice (if i wanted to use Safari as a backup). Hence Camino for me. Not had any problems with it, I prefer its layout and general presentation to Firefox.

Keep thinking of trying Firefox again - browser of choice when I use Windows, hell, I used to use it a couple of names ago :) But I just don't really see why I would bother on my lovely Mac, when I have Camino here for me.
 
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mad jew

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Nermal said:
I used to use Camino as a secondary browser (Safari as primary), but I don't see the need for it anymore - Safari can access virtually every site I visit these days.

Last time I tried Firefox, it was too buggy for me. The Windows version is a lot better though.

That's exactly the same for me. Safari is more than competent enough for me, I love the integration and the alternatives provide nothing to make me want to switch.

Plus, Mozilla is a pet hate of mine. Don't ask why, I just can't stand them. :confused:
 
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MacDawg

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wako said:
I was wondering if anyone uses Camino.


It seems that most Mac users are committed to only Safari and Firefox. I must say that Firefox is one hell of a browser and I would never use anything else on my PC, however Camino is more or less Firefox since both are mozilla and its built for the mac.


How come everyone neglects Camino?
Since, as you say, Camino is more or less Firefox, then what is the compelling reason to use Camino over Firefox, especially if you use Firefox on a PC? I don't see it as neglect as much as overlap.

I use Safari by the way...

Woof, Woof - Dawg
 
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XIII

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Camino just looks a little nicer than Firefox. :) Its my second browser, and I havn't had to use it for months. Safari being no. 1.
 
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peterparker

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I use Camino and Safari. My wife uses Camino. Safari gets extremely sluggish after using eBay and some other particular sites a lot. There are some sites where I get a 1 to 2 second delay between clicking on a link and Safari actually even attempting to go to the page if JavaScript is enabled (apple.com being one of them). I can reproduce this consistently. Other sites like careerbuilder.com just choke on form input fields with JavaScript enabled (AutoFill disabled). Camino has no problems with this so I use it for these sites.
 
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devilot

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My Safari started getting really bogged down and I didn't like the way Firefox looked then somebody here on MR kept mentioning Camino so I thought I'd give it a try. I'm still using Camino but if Camino ever slows down or can't display a site properly I'll hop over to Safari.
 
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PlaceofDis

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try the custom builds of Camino for even better results, its a great browser, i switch regularly between Camino and Safari, i have yet to decide which i prefer, but the Spellcheck in Safari is what i like best about it that Camino does not have, i think if that one feature was added to Camino i would use it full time
 
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danny_w

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I use FireFox most of the time, and Safari sometimes. I tried Camino, but at the time there were too many missing features or features that were implemented differently, so I gave up and went back to FF. Besides, FF is what I use at work on my pc, so I would rather have things as similar as possible.
 
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jsalzer

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You know, I downloaded Camino once. I believe I did so when I began online banking and my bank wouldn't recognize Safari.

I ended up removing it from my computer and using FireFox (until Safari started to work). I don't remember if it was because it wasn't recognized on my bank's site, or if it was because I use FireFox as my primary on my work PC, or there's part of me that thinks I remember some real interface bugs that didn't seem worth the hassle to me.

In any case, Safari is my primary because, near as I'm concerned, it's just about perfect. And, I love that with .Mac, my home and work Macs keep the same bookmarks.

BUT, I'm always up for re-education on my secondary and am downloading the latest and greatest Camino as we speak to give it another try (just for you.) We'll see if it ends up replacing FireFox as my backup. :)
 
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MisterMe

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MacDawg said:
Since, as you say, Camino is more or less Firefox, then what is the compelling reason to use Camino over Firefox, especially if you use Firefox on a PC? I don't see it as neglect as much as overlap.

I use Safari by the way...

Woof, Woof - Dawg
Camino was an excellent Gecko-based Mac browser before Firefox even existed. It is still more elegant than Firefox. I started using Camino before Apple release Safari. I continued to use it as my primary browser until recently. However, Camino has problems with one of my favorite sites. Safari became my primary browser because it works perfectly with the site. I keep a lot of browsers on my computer. For me, Camino is now in second place. I keep IE around in case I encounter an IE-exclusive site.
 
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AmbitiousLemon

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I use Camino. Used it before it was Camino, Chimera, or Navigator, back when it had no name. IMO it has always been the best mac browser, though there have been times (like currently) when some other browsers get pretty close. Camino always seems to pull way ahead again though.

I've tried Safari out a few times. Tried to give it a fair shake by switching to it as my primary browser for a few weeks, and I've just always found it too slow compared to Camino or Firefox. Like PeterParker said Safari has this slight delay on a lot of sites that slow it down a lot. It doesn't sound like much, but that little delay really changes the perception of speed.

I've never seriously considered Firefox on a Mac. It doesn't quite mac sense to me since Camino offers you a gekko browser that is much more 'mac-like.'
 
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nsheikh80

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I'm not neglecting Camino one little bit. I have used since I got a Mac 3 mon th ago and it is a brilliant browser. Just give it a whirl for a couple of days and you will see what I mean. I hear OmniWeb is pretty good but I don't believe in paying for a web browser.
 
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mkrishnan

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Bibulous said:
Camino does not have a built in spell check :(
I've been watching the 0.9 alphas and betas, and when it gets close to release, I will seriously consider it. Right now, 0.8x lacks features I want, and 0.9 has issues with pages I go to, and also doesn't yet have spell check.
 
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yojitani

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I still haven't made up my mind (after more than a year with mac) which browser is best. However, Camino comes out on top with probably Safari a distant second. Personally, I find all mac browsers buggy in irritating ways. For example, the 'back' buttton on Firefox (which I'm using now) is always getting stuck or freezing. Safari 2.0 is at least usable now, but it's still slow.

In terms of appearance Safari has always looked great! Camino looks ok. The rest are pretty damn ugly if you ask me. Anyhow, I'm a big Camino fan even if I don't use it all the time. Camino with a Safari interface, now that would be cool!

But does anyone use Opera anymore? I NEVER hear about that one anymore.

YOJ
 
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jsalzer

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Whelp - I redownloaded it this morning and have been playing with it. It's actually pretty slick.

Appearance is an issue for me (I know, I'm shallow.) The Safari brushed metal is a great contrast to most pages. I find Camino kind of blending in to the pages, which kind of throws me. Also, it seems that around half of the icons are pretty pedestrian - which almost makes you feel like you're using a Microsoft product.

If they'd get one person with a good sense of graphics, or if they'd make it themable like Firefox, I could see it competing with Safari. I especially like the way Camino handles tabs (Safari's dark bar is just sick-looking.)

I think it's gonna stay on my hard drive this time. :)
 
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njmac

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I have never heard of Camino until recently but I did just download firefox to see what the fuss is about.

Two things I noticed. One good, one bad.

When you go to close a window in firefox, it warns you that you have other tabs open. I have closed tabs many times by accident in safari.

And this was the killer for me in Firefox.

I Always hit spacebar to go to the next page. I have a 12" PB, so I read the first half of a webpage, and hit spacebar to go to the next half. I can't stand it when I have to scroll it makes me nauseous.

When I hit spacebar in Firefox, nothin' happens. :mad:
 
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stridey

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I use Camino, almost fanatically (see sig). Yes, some features are still unimplemented, the most glaring being Spell-Checking and RSS support. However:

  • It's wicked fast
  • Built in Banner-ad blocking
  • Yummy Open-source aftertaste
  • Yummy Cocoa aftertaste
  • I love downloading the most recent nightlies
  • Great community support (3rd-party prefpanes, custom builds)
  • Find as you type
  • Forced single-window mode
  • It gets better all the time
 
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mkrishnan

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njmac said:
When you go to close a window in firefox, it warns you that you have other tabs open. I have closed tabs many times by accident in safari.

[...]

When I hit spacebar in Firefox, nothin' happens. :mad:
For the first issue: A Safari plug-in called Taboo, which Mitthrawnuruodo alerted me to originally. Very simple, very nice.

For your second issue...I'm confuddled. Space and Shift-Space should do exactly what you expect them to in Firefox. They do for me. I could see not using a browser if that didn't work -- I rely heavily on that too. I don't know why they don't work for you. What extensions do you have installed?
 
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