I know it’s beta but it’s way off. I know I slept 6.5 hours last night and AutoSleep nailed it. The Apple Watch said I sleep 11 hours. There is no way to calibrate it like AutoSleep. I find AutoSleep a far better product. It can also be calibrated.
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Anyone find the sleep app useless in watchOS 7?
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C'mon guys. Sleep app.....geez. Life is life. We go to bed, sometimes sleep well, sometimes not so well. As long as we wake up in the morning we should be happy. What is next, a toilet app? Stupid question as there are probably a few out there. Let's not let tech intrude in our lives too much 
Well, the plus side is that it's pretty efficient and I can see the gaps in the sleep (even though I remember them too ).
I'm dropping about 8% charge over night which takes virtually no time to charge in the morning.
).I'm dropping about 8% charge over night which takes virtually no time to charge in the morning.
I use a sleep app, called Rain sounds totally free, have used it for years. And believe it or not soft eye covers with an elastic strap. Only have sound in one hear and l'm gone in less than 20-30 minutes. My girlfriend likes the tv on so l need all the distraction l can get.
I have been using the sleep app and it has been pretty accurate and in line with what Pillow and AutoSleep have also been recording.
C'mon guys. Sleep app.....geez. Life is life. We go to bed, sometimes sleep well, sometimes not so well. As long as we wake up in the morning we should be happy. What is next, a toilet app? Stupid question as there are probably a few out there. Let's not let tech intrude in our lives too much
Not everyone gets great sleep. Sleep tracking is very useful for doctors and so much easier for patients.
Log a Pee. There are some for poop too. Toilet apps aren’t stupid. They can be very useful for those with health issues. These apps are so much better because people no longer have to carry around notebooks for logging purposes.
Am I missing a step? I enabled it in Health & watch, wore my watch all night in bed but the app says no data for sleep...
I don’t use the sleep app or any at the moment. Watch is always on charger over night.
I just have no desire to track my sleep. I know my habits and know how well I slept depending how I feel when I wake up.
I just have no desire to track my sleep. I know my habits and know how well I slept depending how I feel when I wake up.
Yes totally agree with you AutoSleep is anytime better than the stock app on beta.
I picked up an AW5 just about a month ago, trying it out again (3rd time), did the same thing last summer with AW4 but ended up returning it because I missed wearing my big/heavy Tag Carrera Chronograph analog watch and also really disliked the way AW took over notifications from the iPhone causing the watch to vibrate but the phone to not light up (I have the phone on a wireless standing charger next to monitors at work, used to be able to just glance at the phone's screen when notifications would come in, now the phone won't light up and instead my wrist buzzes and I have to look at my arm most of the time). On the other hand, love all the exercise features! Anyways, back to the topic:
Been using the built in sleep app for the last 5-6 weeks. Cool that it shows sleep vs awake time, and kind of shows the average and trending amount of time that you sleep. That said, I am also testing a FitBit Charge 4 (piece of crap compared to the AW, but does all-most of the fitness stuff and would allow me to keep wearing my regular watch with the fitbit on the other arm). Anyways, the FitBit tracks and shows sooooo much more when it comes to sleep -- 1) gives you a clear sleep score, 2) clearly, much more clearly that AW, shows night by night (time asleep/in bed vs how much you actually slept, 3) breaks down how much time (in hrs/min) you spent a) awake, b) REM sleep, c) Light sleep, d) Deep sleep; 4) breaks down what percentage (%) of the night you spent in the above four sleep stages; 5) gives you a 30 day average for the above percentage; 6) compares your percentage breakdown with the "typical range" of others in same age/sex group; 7) does some other stuff like showing Est. Oxygen Variation; BUT 8) hides some of the rest of the sleep data behind a pay-wall -- low ball move.
I've tried Sleep++ -- not very impressed with the presentation of data. Also trying SleepWatch -- likewise, lots of data, not all of it useful, lots of stuff behind a monthly subscription paywall. Waiting for the AW6 announcement to see what it brings, but unless there's a lot more vis-a-vis sleep tracking and sleep data presentation, based on everything I read, I plan on getting the AutoSleep app.
It is possible that more features will get activated once AW6 rolls out with additional hardware -- I hope so. Otherwise, I think apple could catch up and possibly then some on the Fitbit by just designing better software that better analyzes and displays sleep data.
Been using the built in sleep app for the last 5-6 weeks. Cool that it shows sleep vs awake time, and kind of shows the average and trending amount of time that you sleep. That said, I am also testing a FitBit Charge 4 (piece of crap compared to the AW, but does all-most of the fitness stuff and would allow me to keep wearing my regular watch with the fitbit on the other arm). Anyways, the FitBit tracks and shows sooooo much more when it comes to sleep -- 1) gives you a clear sleep score, 2) clearly, much more clearly that AW, shows night by night (time asleep/in bed vs how much you actually slept, 3) breaks down how much time (in hrs/min) you spent a) awake, b) REM sleep, c) Light sleep, d) Deep sleep; 4) breaks down what percentage (%) of the night you spent in the above four sleep stages; 5) gives you a 30 day average for the above percentage; 6) compares your percentage breakdown with the "typical range" of others in same age/sex group; 7) does some other stuff like showing Est. Oxygen Variation; BUT 8) hides some of the rest of the sleep data behind a pay-wall -- low ball move.
I've tried Sleep++ -- not very impressed with the presentation of data. Also trying SleepWatch -- likewise, lots of data, not all of it useful, lots of stuff behind a monthly subscription paywall. Waiting for the AW6 announcement to see what it brings, but unless there's a lot more vis-a-vis sleep tracking and sleep data presentation, based on everything I read, I plan on getting the AutoSleep app.
It is possible that more features will get activated once AW6 rolls out with additional hardware -- I hope so. Otherwise, I think apple could catch up and possibly then some on the Fitbit by just designing better software that better analyzes and displays sleep data.
C'mon guys. Sleep app.....geez. Life is life. We go to bed, sometimes sleep well, sometimes not so well. As long as we wake up in the morning we should be happy. What is next, a toilet app? Stupid question as there are probably a few out there. Let's not let tech intrude in our lives too much
Actually some time back, there WAS an app introduced that would track your ummm... "Toilet deposits".... I forget the name, but it really was, included volume, color, etc...
why not just switch off notifications you don’t require on the watch and work as you did before ??
I have, I now switched off most notification, leaving ON Phone, Messages, some Emails, and a small handful of others. Still I find it baffling that you can't customize it so that both devices light up to show notifications; or so that the opposite of current situation is true, i.e. instead of just the watch buzzing/lighting up, it was the phone that still lights up, and the watch ALSO gives you a notification--at the end of the day, isn't the phone still the primary device we interact with?
I mean the assumption is that if you’re wearing the watch you got a better device on to get notified about everything.
I don't know that the tiny 1.533" or 1.78" (depending on size of watch) screen is a "better device" to get notified of everything.
When it comes to notifications, literally every notification is good enough on the watch to see and decide if you want to interact with it or not. If you want to engage with it then pull out the phone. The use case is pretty defined there.
I guess maybe I have a specific use case scenario, with the phone on a standing wireless charger on my desk all day long; notification comes in, phone lights up, I glance at it out of the corner of my eye, decide whether I need to interact with it or ignore it. With the watch, it keeps buzzing my wrist, I keep raising it and scrolling on that tiny screen (I have perfectly good eyesight). I think what I am really saying is that there should be more options for customizing how, where and when (maybe different at different times of day) notifications come to phone vs watch.
An example of "everyone has different preferences."
I like the behavior as designed by Apple. It's dependent on whether the iPhone is locked. In other words, it's context sensitive. When the phone is unlocked there's a reasonable expectation that you're looking at it, hence, that's where you should get the notification. If you received a parallel notification on your Watch it would be unnecessarily distracting. If your phone is locked, a notification received on your Watch is more likely to get your attention. My phone is often in my pocket, or otherwise out of sight, so a quick glance-at-wrist makes more sense than remove-from-pocket. Although you have your iPhone arranged to deliver constant visibility while at your desk, you're not always at your desk.
I've tried to imagine the settings options that might be necessary to suit a variety of needs. Other than a fairly simplistic "always on iPhone/always on Watch," things get very complicated very fast.
What if you wanted context-sensitivity away from your desk, but iPhone-only while at your desk? That begins to look like the time-of-day preference you suggested. Some people's schedules are such that it may work, but for others schedules might have to be settable on a day-by-day basis. At the least, a weekday/weekend option seems to be necessary. There are other iOS features that offer this kind of scheduling to one degree or another (Do Not Disturb, Screen Time > Downtime), so we know it can be done. The real question is whether there are enough users desiring this flexibility to justify raising the level of complexity for all users.
I'd argue that in terms of context sensitivity, Apple chose the right context to take into account. "While near-vertical and connected to charger" may address your particular situation, but it's not nearly as straightforward as locked/un-locked.