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Discussion in 'Mac Pro' started by wesk702, Jun 11, 2013.
Knowing the completely new redesign is just around the corner?
Only those who need internal expansion and those die-hard supporters of the older designs, also called: Traditionalists. Traditionalists are a type of pro user that resist change and still believe that the older models(think here, 2008,2009,2010-2012) will suite their purposes well into the future without having to give up for another model.
I think this is going be a Mac Pro for those who want change versus those who resist it. Me personally, I think the new Mac Pro is a nice design, but lacks certain things that I would like to see, such as upgradable CPUS, upgradable video, etc.. we simply don't know what is user replacable in this new form of Mac Pro.
But in the end I believe there will be two camps: Traditionalists and NEO-Pro Users who will jump on board with the new design.
I would think anyone needing one now or with legacy hardware would pick one up. I'd also avoid a first gen product and wait for the second.
This day in age I would recommend highly AGAINST the 2006 and 2007 UNLESS one wants to convert it into a pure windows box or linux box, and even so. 64 bit windows will be a PITA to install given its EFI32.
The 2008 would be a better choice.. but the best choice would be 2009-2012 because of the 4,1 to 5,1 firmware update. This will keep those Mac Pros preserving their value and possibly raise it.
WTF? Computer users are now like high-schoolers following rock genres?
Isn't the utilitarian explanation far more accurate? They'll get whey need and what works for their purpose.
Jesus, high performance computers as a fashion... Gawd!
Sorry, just trying to give a name for Pro users like you and myself - We would fall under Traditionalists. Traditionalists are those Pro Users who will continue to use the cheese grater Mac Pro as our main machines and upgrade based on our work loads.
Neo Pro Users = Those Pro Users who have made the jump or transition from the older Mac Pro technology to the new cylinder based Mac Pro.
You, myself, Tutor, goMac and others who still use the cheese grater based Mac Pros are traditionalists, for example.
I wouldn't buy a current MacPro with someone else's money.
Looking forward to a new MacPro in my office.
No, No problem... I just thought it was really funny is all. Like the Punkers vs. the Metal Heads.
Call me a traditionalist. I'll buy a used 2009 for spare parts for my 4,1 > 5,1 Hex when the price is right. Wouldn't kick the new MP out of bed (or my machine room) but don't need it for my audio work and don't want to spend the bucks it will take to match my current MP in performance, I/O and flexibility.
Although it is fun to speculate on the future of the MP at this point, there's a good chance a Mac Faux is awaiting me somewhere in my future.
Considering how long it has taken Thunderbolt 1 devices to make it to the market, I'm thinking of sitting this one out for at least another year. I need a new machine though. Current gen may fit my needs much better than the new Pro for now.
PS...wtf are we in high school?
Naw we just broke those metal heads noses and walked away no versus to it.
I think there is a significant third group: those wanting change, but not this particular set of changes.
I am tempted at getting a 2010 refurb, and then upgrading to a Hexacore with 12Gb.
My needs aren't that great, but am looking at a fair bit of Bluray/DVD ripping, TV Recording Editing, bit of Home Video editing,photo editing etc.
Unless there is a drastically reduced base version, ie 6 Core Xeon, Single GPU etc then the new Mac Pro is going to be overkill, and I reckon that the 2010 would last me quite a while anyway.
From reading on the forum about how hot the mini's and imacs get then thinking a refurb Mac Pro and upgrade is the way to go, or possibly a 2009 second hand and flash to a 5,1 and upgrade.
I'll probably buy one in a couple of years. In the meantime I'll find a killer deal on a current high end Mac Pro (12 core) from someone trading in on a new one.
Thinking the same thing.
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Just Popped on a Grade A Pre-owned Apple Mac Pro 3.33 Ghz Six Core/16GB/1TB/ATI Radeon 5870.
My Mac Pro 1,1 "Quadzilla" has been, BY FAR, the best computer I have ever owned. It it will still make an excellent file/media server
Looking forward to this SIX CORE "BEAST" and hope that it serves me well for many years to come. Good luck with your future purchases!
It is a great time to buy a Mac Pro, we now have the information to either move ahead with a purchase or stalk Mac Rumors for a few months until the official New release.
I bought the 12 core 3.06 gig machine with the ATI 5870 almost a year ago, and just love it. Plan to shortly upgrade to theGTX680 Mac Edition graphics card, and OWC PCIe SSD. I will keep this Machine for another 2 or 3 years then check out the newest offerings. So far, I'm not impressed with the New Mac Pro, but need more info. Can't understand why they just didn't plop in USB3.0, Thunderbolt, and the latest Zeon's to the enclosure they already have. Would have made much more sense.
Now that I have seen "Black Beauty"...
I will be buying new the previous version Mac Pro and a new monitor.
My Power PC dual 2.5 Ghz tower has been the best machine I have ever owned. Built like a brick s***house , it has never given any trouble. The new Mac Pro is more power than I need and no optical drives which I DO need.
So off to the Apple Store before the "old" version is gone
PS 2012 Mac Pro ordered yesterday (6/15 ) on Amazon- 6 were available; Today only 3 remain.
Today I will check my Apple store for the 27" monitor.
my current 2010 mac pro suits my needs as a designer. also with the possibility of 16TB worth of internal storage it's a great media server used to stream blu-ray movies, HD t.v. shows, music, etc to the apple tv. it's unlikely i will make the move to the 2013 model. lack of internal storage is a deal breaker. granted i can purchase external HDD but i do not like the clutter.
I'm considering getting the current version for now. Not keen on being a guinea pig on this new machine anyway.
I am tempted at getting a 2010 refurb...
I just did that. With Applecare. I couldn't wait any longer. I'd stretched my machines to their service life limits. Well, actually, way beyond their limits.
I started off looking for a used MP. And all I could find were 2009's and earlier. But those machines have issues and/or won't run the software I need to get stuff done.
The MBP thread posters are saying TB2 is going to be pushed back to early spring 2014 because of controller issues. And the new MP definitely needs TB2 because Apple totally dumped internal expandability. Add another year for the bleeding, and that's probably around 2 years before it's stable. Plus no one knows how much the iBarrel is going to cost.
So maybe it's not such a crazy idea (I hope).
Actually the Mac Pro with 6 thunderbolt ports could get away with just TB 1 speeds and still have an improvement in disk connectivity.
I think you're way over estimating bleeding and stability times. I think Apple will have had enough time with the pre-production parts they got from Intel to work out a lot of the issues. Also TB2 shouldn't take that long to iron out. At the very least Apple has lots of TB 1 devices they can test against for issues.
Congrats on your purchase. TB1 devices took some time before it was available in the market. TB2 might also take some time and we need to factor in the price level.
Just bought a second system. I may or may not resell it depending on how the new Mac Pro turns out, I need to see one of them in action before I make that decision.
ATM, the Thunderbolt offerings out there aren't of a great enough gamut to make me wait. Having a quiet computer is one of the more important things I value, and a lot of the existing Thunderbolt peripherals out there have no built-in thermal management and run lots of tiny (and literally whiny) fans.