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They are great for news trading MetaTrader is a platform not a broker, brokers use the MetaTrader platform they just pay MetaTrader monthly.

although I trade 4 hour charts so 5 pip spread

GBP/USD = 3 pip spread

USD/CHF = 3 pip spread

EUR/USD = 2 pip spread

USD/CAD = 3 pip spread

GBP/JPY = 7 pip spread but this pair is usually 10 pips

The broker sues MetaTrader platform but the spread and execution are completely up to them.
 
Personally I think the jpy pairs should fall quite a bit, then again maybe I could be wrong. I would like to see AUD/JPY fall to say 87-88.. GBP/JPY to 225.. and then I'll get back in.. just to be on the safe side.

MP, how did you do with the JPY yesterday? I happened to be holding USD/JPY short when it dove around 7pm (pst) then was monitoring it a couple hours later when it shot up. I jumped in and did really well. I didn't have the advantage of the news like you-just dumb luck.
 
21 pips on the US CPI report (deviation was only 0.1%) Huge lot though, so I'm very satisfied right now :D

Hey gaucho.. where you been?! I see you hopping in and out from time to time :p If you can't fit the trading patterns in your schedule.. I recommend you trade news reports like Aussie/Kiwi ones. They usually come out at 4.30 pm PST - 7 pm PST. They're very limited unlike the UK and US reports but they do move really well. I know that I could do well if I just traded one AUD/USD report once a month.. (obviously with a massive lot) So look into that as well.

Thanks for the tip! I'm a true newbie at this, so I've just started my game account to get used to the mechanics of making trades, using the software, etc. Could you post the link again to the Yahoo business news page you use, which lists the upcoming news reports? I'm interested in doing some 'real-time' trades to see how fast of a trigger finger is necessary. :)
 
guys you should replace your USD/JPY trades with GBP/JPY it moves more. With a good system and some fundamental analysis you can set a 20-40 pip stop loss and aim for 200 pips or more.

I entered a Long trade on Monday and have held it till now I am currently up over 350 pips. the stop loss was only 40 pips (40 pips is big for day trading but when we are talking swing trades it is very very small)

The best method I came buy in recent times was a method called the VanessaFX system it is written by a 20 something year old lady that has an account worth over one million.


http://rapidshare.com/files/11160233...ed_Systems.pdf

http://rapidshare.com/files/12281165...ed_Systems.pdf

http://www.yourfilelink.com/get.php?fid=264448

these are all the same files it was posted with multiple links in case one was down so I just threw them all up. It is a PDF file.

It is getting quite popular but beware just those indicator will cause you to fail you need to use it in conjunction with support/resistance lines and Candle stick patterns.
 
On what Music said reports can be dangerous as they are prone to revisions and comments by the releaser. You wont be trading the number you will be trading traders interpretation of the number. Smarter option is to learn economics (not advanced just general) and learn technical analysis.
 
Thanks for the tip! I'm a true newbie at this, so I've just started my game account to get used to the mechanics of making trades, using the software, etc. Could you post the link again to the Yahoo business news page you use, which lists the upcoming news reports? I'm interested in doing some 'real-time' trades to see how fast of a trigger finger is necessary. :)

Here is a better economic calendar than Yahoo, it is more detailed and they have colour coding for expected volatility. They also have good analysis they do not have any now because as far as i have heard they are in the middle of an upgrade but I asked the owner and he has assured me from next week onwards the analysis will be there.

It is a free service by the way.

http://www.forexclarity.com/calendar/


You may also consider paying for a news program that tells you release numbers within 1-2 second of the actual release. This allows for faster entries and a higher chance of success as you can see if any revisions or comments are made. I suggest trade the news for this since you are new and this is the cheapest but still very good.

They offer a one week trial so you can test it out if you like. I think the price for text is $40 per month.

www.tradethenews.com/
 
I recently found out that a friend of a coworker of my wife (let's see, yep, I got it right! :eek: ;) ) day trades forex professionally. He lives on a sailboat and sails the waters while sleeping in 4 hour increments in order to take advantage of the world markets - what a life! :D

At any rate, we've exchanged a few short e-mails back and forth so far, but one of his quotes stuck out in my mind, especially as I am investigating more and more technical analysis and charting wirth repsect to forex trading. I asked him if he focuses on technical or news trading, and when he said technical trading I asked, "But the technicals go out the window if a huge news item hits, right? How do you know what's going to happen?" To which he replied:

Show me the chart and I'll tell you the news.

Not that I necessarily believe that to be absolutely true, however I found that quite cool regardless... ;) :cool:

Anyway, made 5 pips on the CAD announcement - good enough for today. More trading tomorrow... :cool:
 
PiP Dictator, I'll be trying out those systems over the next few weeks. I can definitely see how it works.

Shard, thats cool about your friend's, friend's, friend :p . I notice how the news will just confirm the techs sometimes. I dont think its often enough to bet on it though.

My main issue with technicals is waiting. It annoys me to no end...which is probably why I news trade(that and the fact that news trading was the first thing I learned, courtesy of MP and Shard ;) )

I guess I can trade with techs on one account and it'll be "work", and then I can news trade on another account because news trading is still where all the fun is, at least for me :cool:
 
There is a good forum here www.forexclarity.com/forum

Anybody tried the system yet?

I guess we just posted at the same time. Anyway, yeah, it looks like, for the main system, there wont be another entry until next week.

On the intraday system, Im just waiting for an entry and I missed both at 1:30am(central) today b/c I was sleeping. Im starting a new sleep schedule though because Im realizing that all the moves are when Im normally asleep :rolleyes:
 
In my opinion you should trade fundamentals along with technicals, beware of that system you should understand technical analysis before trading it.

A lot of the signals you shouldn't take there is a lot to it. When using the intra day system I take maybe 1 out of every 5 trades and when trading the 4 hour system I use fundamental analysis quite heavily if the fundamentals don't line up I do not enter.

If you want news there is a goof fundamental analysis newsletter on the same site as the forum I posted. There is a guy there that trades a few releases a week he write full reports on how to trade it and exactly what deviation to use. It looks like a lot of analysis goes into the thing, it is on a free trial at the moment if you sign up now you might still make it in but don't take my word for it. I like it it provides me with information that it would take me hours to find and there is also heaps more information.

Unfortunately anything good in thus business has a price on it but its pretty cheap so I don't mind the subscription.

I am going to post a scalping system tomorrow it is my own and it works on 1 min charts I use it when I am bored and waiting for a big move.
 
No trade this morning, US unemployment data came out with little deviation from estimates.

Thanks for posting that link PIP Dictator I'll definitely take a look at it. I am looking forward to reviewing your scalping method as well. For me it's all about learning and becoming a better trader, so I'll take whatever you have! Thanks again. :)

No more trading for me today though until later tonight. Have fun guys... :cool:
 
Just made 15 pips trading that intraday system :) 10 on EUR/USD and 5 on USD/CHF. I got out early on USD/CHF. I was playing it safe ;)
 
good 15 pips is not bad at all 5 pips a day can make you a fortune.

If you look back last year in what I think was November the 4 hour system gave a signal on a 1000 pip move. The 24 year old good looking girl that wrote that system doubled her account on that trade. She trades over on million now. The guy that runs the site who I think is her boyfriend is supposedly an even better trader and he is 20.

You need to have some serious skill to double an account like that. I make a very good living from trading but her story is amazing.

Don't get a fantasy in your head that because they are young and successful it is easy. It is a rare breed that can claim that type of success in Forex and even though they are young I think between them they have 12 years experience.

I will throw up my scalping system later just going to refine it a little and remove the technical talk since you guys are for the most part fairly new.
 
good 15 pips is not bad at all 5 pips a day can make you a fortune.

Yeah, now I wish I would have held on...both of them broke out and I would be sitting at +70 pips right now. Im sure I'll get more of a feel for it after I get used to it.

I will throw up my scalping system later just going to refine it a little and remove the technical talk since you guys are for the most part fairly new.

Or, you could throw it up with the "technical talk" and we could ask questions...if you dont mind. :)

I understand support/resistance, fibs, and trend lines for the most part.

Beyond that, Im not sure.
 
23 pips on the UK GDP report, and 5 pips on the Eur German ZEW sentiment report (exited too fast.. it dropped by a further 15 pips) More than enough for the day.. enjoy the weekend guys :)
 
I went back to sleep after the alarm went off..oh well. I made 125 pips this week so Im more than happy :D

PiP Dictator, are you still in that GBP/JPY trade from the beginning of this week?
 
I just started trading the forex 2 years ago, with out much success. Just bought a system from www.progressivefx.com with the hopes of making some money.

So far I am even, but I have only owned it for 2 days. My long position on the USD/CHF has taken a beating, but it looks like it may rally! :)

Anyone here try this system before, I am curious about others success/failures with it.
 
alpharedecho, I would be cautious of paying money for a system. There are plenty of free systems on various forex forums.

The one PiP Dictator posted above is free and Ive already made 15 pips from it.

Also, this entire thread will give you a good education in forex and show you how to make money trading the news. Its all free.

Aside from that, have you looked into WHY USD/CHF has gone down? The answer to that question will probably help more than any system.

Meant only in kindness,
Nathan
 
In my personal opinion.. *any* system will fail. I've read through all of them and they are nothing more than subtle variations of a main theme - i.e. support and resistance.. and macd, ema lines.

Additionally, another thing I've noticed is that the authors of such systems.. when they make these e-books or whatever, conveniently show trades which are successful.. and their entries/exits are almost always *before* the ema or macd lines cross :p

Sure, they might work.. but I doubt they work all the time. This is just a personal opinion, before you guys swallow me :D Just looking out for your best interest. Trade technicals, but watch out for any report that can screw up your trade for good.

Shard, tell your wife's friend's friend 'Show me the news and i'll tell you the charts' :p lol.. I jest of course, but I just had to put that in here!! :)
 
I agree MP, there is no system that will give you 100% success. Personally if I ever see a system where the author claims you will never lose and always profit with their system, I will be looking elsewhere :)

First of all I should share broker information do not sign up with forex.com or fxcm.com they will screw you over with stop hunting and locking you out during news.

My pick is http://www.fastbrokersfx.com/ they have an ok charting platform, fast execution, great entries on news and they don't seem like they stop hunt.

I will give some strategies later out soon.

PiP, I am glad I read your post. I was very close to opening an account with Forex.com. MP already warned me about fxcm, so I was avoiding them already. I have checked out fastbrokersfx.com and from what I have seen so far I am interested. I really liked Forex.com for their platform layout, but if you say stay clear of them, I will take your advice.
One thing, can someone explain to me what "Stop Hunting" is though?

Thanks to everyone for all the good advice here in this thread. It has been very helpful to me in preparing for live forex trading.
 
In my personal opinion.. *any* system will fail. I've read through all of them and they are nothing more than subtle variations of a main theme - i.e. support and resistance.. and macd, ema lines.

Additionally, another thing I've noticed is that the authors of such systems.. when they make these e-books or whatever, conveniently show trades which are successful.. and their entries/exits are almost always *before* the ema or macd lines cross

Sure, they might work.. but I doubt they work all the time. This is just a personal opinion, before you guys swallow me. Just looking out for your best interest. Trade technicals, but watch out for any report that can screw up your trade for good.

I totally agree - I would take any "system" with a grain of salt. Even when I have used technical analysis and charting in the past, it's been more of a "one of" situation, where I've seen a really low RSI or I've seen something specific and taken advantage of it - it has never been an indicator or "system" which I have tried to consistently follow.

I got into this whole forex trading again thanks to you Music_Producer and it has been due to the success I've had on trading the news - as a result, this will always be my primary method I think. That being said, being able to take advantage of some technical moves will be a nice complement. ;) :cool:

Shard, tell your wife's friend's friend 'Show me the news and i'll tell you the charts' :p lol.. I jest of course, but I just had to put that in here!! :)

Haha, no worries, I know where you're coming from! I thought you'd get a kick out of that regardless, as I found it in an intriguing quote. I know where he's coming from, but that being said, you can never ignore the fundamentals. Of course, you'll always run into technical traders who took a position based on the charts before the big Japanese interest rate announcement and then after the dust settled they're still ahead, who would then cite that the news had no effect on them, but I question whether sometimes that's just blind luck. Again, I think it's naive to ignore the news. :cool:

Then again, my wife's friend is the one living on a sailboat, not me... :eek: ;)

One thing, can someone explain to me what "Stop Hunting" is though?

It's all about arbitrage. :cool:

More specifically, stop-hunting is a tactic employed by institutional traders at banks, forex brokerages, etc. to drive the price into their customers' stops or the stops of other traders. Since an unscrupulous brokerage can quote its own internal forex prices, it has the ability to move its prices substantially from the normal interbank rates to trigger customer stops. The broker can then perform its own arbitrage with those stop-loss orders by clearing the currency lots obtained in its "stop hunt" at a better price with its interbank counter-party. Let's say you set a stop at 1.2855 and the broker can sell that lot into the interbank market at 1.2860 - well, in this loosely regulated market, they might just go on a "stop hunt". :rolleyes:

Hope that helps. :cool:
 
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