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I was glad to see that you were going to be waiting until next year.

Honestly, the retina pros this year are very underwhelming. While the screen is gorgeous, the ivy bridge processors are just not up to the task of powering such a high resolution display completely smoothly.

I had a retina. I now have a regular 15 inch pro, and I could not be happier. People will say that the retina does not lag, this and that, but it does. A lot of people try to justify their purchase even though they know they spent a lot of money on something that will be so much better next year with the Haswell processor revision.

Do not buy a maxed out retina pro right now. Wait for the true power of the haswell processors that will come next year. I purchased my 2012 Macbook Pro 15 inch, and will sell it next year to get a retina. But for now, I am much happier with this decision.
You're calling the most advanced laptop in the world "underwhelming"? No other laptop on the market comes close to what the rMBP has to offer. The only lag I see is when browsing Facebook. If Facebook's performance is all you care about you shouldn't be using a $2,200+ laptop. As for waiting for Haswell, people say this every year: "wait for Processor X to come out, it'll fix all the problems". If you go by this recommendation you'll be waiting your entire life.
 
You're calling the most advanced laptop in the world "underwhelming"? No other laptop on the market comes close to what the rMBP has to offer. The only lag I see is when browsing Facebook. If Facebook's performance is all you care about you shouldn't be using a $2,200+ laptop. As for waiting for Haswell, people say this every year: "wait for Processor X to come out, it'll fix all the problems". If you go by this recommendation you'll be waiting your entire life.

BUMP dude BUMP!!
 
You're calling the most advanced laptop in the world "underwhelming"? No other laptop on the market comes close to what the rMBP has to offer. The only lag I see is when browsing Facebook. If Facebook's performance is all you care about you shouldn't be using a $2,200+ laptop. As for waiting for Haswell, people say this every year: "wait for Processor X to come out, it'll fix all the problems". If you go by this recommendation you'll be waiting your entire life.


As for OP said he is willing to wait for next release. Which is a Rev B product. It is not like he is waiting 4 to 5 variation of the product. But his mind set told him, he will get it next year. And it is good for him; by that time rMBP is more matured product. But for people who can't wait there is no reason to hold on. Ivy bridge is a powerful CPU Im not sure about the GPU against a pixel hungry retina.
 
You're calling the most advanced laptop in the world "underwhelming"? No other laptop on the market comes close to what the rMBP has to offer. The only lag I see is when browsing Facebook. If Facebook's performance is all you care about you shouldn't be using a $2,200+ laptop. As for waiting for Haswell, people say this every year: "wait for Processor X to come out, it'll fix all the problems". If you go by this recommendation you'll be waiting your entire life.

Lol you sound like an angry apple fanboy. So typical.

As for the processor, yes, Haswell will be MUCH better. Sandy bridge to IVY bridge was like going from the iPhone 3G to the iPhone 3GS. Ivy Bridge to Haswell will be like going from the iPhone 3G to the iPhone 5. It is a HUGE jump in performance, not just incremental like the Ivy bridge is.

Also how does a laptop "only lag on facebook" lol. That is the most absurd comment i have ever heard. If facebook is lagging UI wise, that is a product of the web browser, which is exactly what I am talking about, and will carry over to other sites.

You can try to justify your purchase all you want. I never said it was not a beautiful machine. But I am going to be laughing next year when you see the power of the Haswell processor, and really how much of a difference it makes.
 
Just max everything but the hard disk... keep that at 512 and u should be good... No reason to pay 500 extra for 256 more GB... IMHO.

And the computer is fantastic... just make sure urs does not have dead pixels or anything.
 
Just max everything but the hard disk... keep that at 512 and u should be good... No reason to pay 500 extra for 256 more GB... IMHO.

Quite true. At some point OWC or someone else will make a replacement drive that might go up to 1TB or something. I'd rather wait and spend on that. The original SSD could then go on ebay etc ...

The 512GB and 16GB RAM are not *that* expensive compared to say Dell's upgrades. In fact a 2.6/16GB/512GB rMBP is less costly compared to a similarly spec'ed Dell laptop ...
 
As for the processor, yes, Haswell will be MUCH better. Sandy bridge to IVY bridge was like going from the iPhone 3G to the iPhone 3GS. Ivy Bridge to Haswell will be like going from the iPhone 3G to the iPhone 5. It is a HUGE jump in performance, not just incremental like the Ivy bridge is.

They said the same thing about sandy -> ivy.

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Ivy was suppose to be 50% faster than Sandy. Haswell is suppose to be 50% faster than Ivy. In reality, it'll be ~10% in real world applications.
 
I think $500 for the 2.3 > 2.6 Ghz (approx 20% speed increase) and 256 > 512 Gb SSD (doubling storage capacity) is reasonable. I also paid the extra $200 for 16Gb since it is non-upgradeable from 8Gb, plus with 16Gb there is absolutely no need for a swap file - which I disabled - which saves some space on the SSD.

On the other hand, I think the cost to upgrade from 2.6 > 2.7 Ghz and from 512 > 768Gb is way too high. Unless you have nothing else to spend the money on, I'd forgo both these overpriced options. The SSD is potentially upgradeable in the future, too.

This. I think the time has come where the cost to boost the CPU just isn't worth it unless you really need it. And the cost difference is the same on most laptops like Alienware etc so God knows how much Intel is charging for them!

As for the storage, entirely depends on what you need. But it is over a thousand for a terrabyte SSD.
 
Max out Ram, but not SSD

OK, so I maxed out in RAM and SSD following the same reasoning of not having to upgrade for awhile (one reason I waited until they offered USB 3 as well). Cost me about $4k and although I love it, I have a bit of buyers remorse due to the cost. If you have the money to burn, go ahead and do it, but you are paying a big premium on the SSD, and at the end of the day, there will probably be another innovation in 2 years that will make us want to upgrade in 2 to 3 years rather than the 4 or 5 we are thinking now.

Here is what I would suggest thinking about. Max out the RAM because that is not upgradable. They say the SSD isn't either but with the Macbook Air, places like OWC have offered replacement/upgrade SSDs. So I would get a 256 or 512 SSD and then either upgrade later, or get an external SSD with USB3 or Thunderbolt connectivity for more later if you need it.
 
Lol you sound like an angry apple fanboy. So typical.

I'm not sure why you feel the need to insult me. I was explaining why I feel that the rMBP is a phenomenal machine and why I feel that your statement that it is "underwhelming" is wrong, not that there's something wrong with you personally.

As for the processor, yes, Haswell will be MUCH better. Sandy bridge to IVY bridge was like going from the iPhone 3G to the iPhone 3GS. Ivy Bridge to Haswell will be like going from the iPhone 3G to the iPhone 5. It is a HUGE jump in performance, not just incremental like the Ivy bridge is.

Another commenter has already confirmed what I said previously: every new generation falls short on it's intended performance.

Also how does a laptop "only lag on facebook" lol. That is the most absurd comment i have ever heard. If facebook is lagging UI wise, that is a product of the web browser, which is exactly what I am talking about, and will carry over to other sites.

I only experienced a slower UI on Facebook. That's just my experience. Maybe Facebook requires more power to be displayed smoothly. You're correct that this is a problem with the machine. I don't see it impacting my experience significantly.

You can try to justify your purchase all you want. I never said it was not a beautiful machine. But I am going to be laughing next year when you see the power of the Haswell processor, and really how much of a difference it makes.

I don't need to justify my purchase to a random person on the internet to feel good about it. You can laugh all you'd like next year when Haswell arrives, but the situation will be no different. You'll still be butthurt over your low-end Mac and the dissatisfaction it causes you every day to think that you could have had something better.
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As for the processor, yes, Haswell will be MUCH better. Sandy bridge to IVY bridge was like going from the iPhone 3G to the iPhone 3GS. Ivy Bridge to Haswell will be like going from the iPhone 3G to the iPhone 5. It is a HUGE jump in performance, not just incremental like the Ivy bridge is.
Spoken like a true Apple fanboy, who only looks at what is available soon, not several years ahead. Of course iPhone 5 is going to be great because it will have all the things Apple procrastinated and didn't put out last October!

If you think Haswell is going to be great, by the time it starts getting leaked we'll have Broadwell to look forward to, and it's going to fix all the problems that are introduced by Haswell!

You are not going to win.
You can try to justify your purchase all you want. I never said it was not a beautiful machine. But I am going to be laughing next year when you see the power of the Haswell processor, and really how much of a difference it makes.
I'm going to be laughing all the way to the bank, watching you waste your money on the latest and greatest, only to return it in 30 days after realizing it wasn't all that cracked up to be.
 
I was glad to see that you were going to be waiting until next year.

Honestly, the retina pros this year are very underwhelming. While the screen is gorgeous, the ivy bridge processors are just not up to the task of powering such a high resolution display completely smoothly.

I had a retina. I now have a regular 15 inch pro, and I could not be happier. People will say that the retina does not lag, this and that, but it does. A lot of people try to justify their purchase even though they know they spent a lot of money on something that will be so much better next year with the Haswell processor revision.

Do not buy a maxed out retina pro right now. Wait for the true power of the haswell processors that will come next year. I purchased my 2012 Macbook Pro 15 inch, and will sell it next year to get a retina. But for now, I am much happier with this decision.


Not true at all. Haswell really isn't going to be as big a jump as you think it is. Ever since mountain lion, my retina has been buttery smooth.

DA POWER OF DA HASWELL!!!!!1111 LOL
 
If the magic processor is in 2013, buy now, resell next year and add a small amount for a better machine.

If you received an educational discount most people don't so you are already further ahead than most to the next newer and faster machine.
 
I'm going to be laughing all the way to the bank, watching you waste your money on the latest and greatest, only to return it in 30 days after realizing it wasn't all that cracked up to be.

I just received my new maxed out Retina MBP and am pretty sure you'd be crying on the way to the bank if you got a glimpse of the balances in mine! Waste is a subjective matter of opinion!

The only issue I have now with the Retina MBP's is trying to figure out what to do with the 2.6/8/512 Retina MBP I purchased to tide me over until this one arrived!


You are not going to win.
I've already won! :D
 
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