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Anyone on AT&T with an iPhone 5 ever see 3G?

Bacong

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I've only ever seen LTE, 4G and Edge.

So, I'm assuming AT&T has upgraded basically eveywhere to HSPA+ where there isn't LTE. I know my friend with an iPhone 4 still has 3G.
 
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Bacong said:
I've only ever seen LTE, 4G and Edge.

So, I'm assuming AT&T has upgraded basically eveywhere to HSPA+ where there isn't LTE. I know my friend with an iPhone 4 still has 3G.
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iPhone 4 = HSPA
iPhone 4S = HSPA/HSPA+
HSPA =3G
HSPA+ = 4G
 
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An AT&T iPhone 4S and 5 on AT&T will never see 3G, even if it isn't on HSPA+. The carrier bundle set to never show it.
 
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BlueMoonForever

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In areas where they don't have HSPA and only UMTS, then the phone would still display "4G". I think this is absolutely ridiculous that they even call H+ 4G. If its "4G" then why do I get 3G speeds. Apple should not have allowed this. It should say 3G and then LTE. That's it.
 
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Bacong said:
like I said, I know. lol. I clearly said HSPA+ in the OP.
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then what the hell are you asking? if you see 4G on there you are actually seeing 3G. only older models show that because of apple and at&t scumbag tactics

if you travel to europe where DC HSPA is widely avaliable you'll see 3G even on your iPhone 5 because european regulators don't fall for this bullcrap
 
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Bacong

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BlueMoonForever said:
In areas where they don't have HSPA and only UMTS, then the phone would still display "4G". I think this is absolutely ridiculous that they even call H+ 4G. If its "4G" then why do I get 3G speeds. Apple should not have allowed this. It should say 3G and then LTE. That's it.
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apollo, this is what I was asking basically, if they were displaying 4G on the screen even if it wasn't HSPA+.

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BlueMoonForever said:
In areas where they don't have HSPA and only UMTS, then the phone would still display "4G". I think this is absolutely ridiculous that they even call H+ 4G. If its "4G" then why do I get 3G speeds. Apple should not have allowed this. It should say 3G and then LTE. That's it.
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well, there is a difference between HSPA and HSPA+. It should show E, 3G, 4G, and LTE.
 
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Menel

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Anyone on AT&T with an iPhone 5 ever see 3G?

BlueMoonForever said:
In areas where they don't have HSPA and only UMTS, then the phone would still display "4G". I think this is absolutely ridiculous that they even call H+ 4G. If its "4G" then why do I get 3G speeds. Apple should not have allowed this. It should say 3G and then LTE. That's it.
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Apple really has no ball on that court, they don't have a say in the matter. The United Nations International Telecommunications Union, ITU, defines the terms.

I suppose they *could* just to confuse consumers or something like they do in the UK. But I prefer standards compliance.
 
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BlueMoonForever

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Bacong said:
apollo, this is what I was asking basically, if they were displaying 4G on the screen even if it wasn't HSPA+.

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well, there is a difference between HSPA and HSPA+. It should show E, 3G, 4G, and LTE.
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Yea, but HSPA and HSPA+ shouldn't be classified as "4G". 4G does nothing but confuse people. I'd be fine with E, 3G, H, H+ and LTE as indicators.
 
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