Anyone on AT&T with an iPhone 5 ever see 3G?

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  1. Bacong macrumors 68000

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    I've only ever seen LTE, 4G and Edge.

    So, I'm assuming AT&T has upgraded basically eveywhere to HSPA+ where there isn't LTE. I know my friend with an iPhone 4 still has 3G.
     
  2. osofast240sx macrumors 68030

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    iPhone 4 = HSPA
    iPhone 4S = HSPA/HSPA+
    HSPA =3G
    HSPA+ = 4G
     
  3. Intell macrumors P6

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    An AT&T iPhone 4S and 5 on AT&T will never see 3G, even if it isn't on HSPA+. The carrier bundle set to never show it.
     
  4. Bacong thread starter macrumors 68000

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    yeah, I know that.
     
  5. AutoUnion39 macrumors 601

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    this. [/thread]
     
  6. apollo1444 macrumors 65816

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    when you're looking at 4G you are actually looking at 3G HSPA/HSPA+ technology. "4G" is just a marketing thing.
     
  7. Bacong thread starter macrumors 68000

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    like I said, I know. lol. I clearly said HSPA+ in the OP.
     
  8. BlueMoonForever macrumors 6502

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    In areas where they don't have HSPA and only UMTS, then the phone would still display "4G". I think this is absolutely ridiculous that they even call H+ 4G. If its "4G" then why do I get 3G speeds. Apple should not have allowed this. It should say 3G and then LTE. That's it.
     
  9. apollo1444 macrumors 65816

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    then what the hell are you asking? if you see 4G on there you are actually seeing 3G. only older models show that because of apple and at&t scumbag tactics

    if you travel to europe where DC HSPA is widely avaliable you'll see 3G even on your iPhone 5 because european regulators don't fall for this bullcrap
     
  10. Bacong thread starter macrumors 68000

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    apollo, this is what I was asking basically, if they were displaying 4G on the screen even if it wasn't HSPA+.

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    well, there is a difference between HSPA and HSPA+. It should show E, 3G, 4G, and LTE.
     
  11. Menel macrumors 603

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    Anyone on AT&T with an iPhone 5 ever see 3G?

    Apple really has no ball on that court, they don't have a say in the matter. The United Nations International Telecommunications Union, ITU, defines the terms.

    I suppose they *could* just to confuse consumers or something like they do in the UK. But I prefer standards compliance.
     
  12. BlueMoonForever macrumors 6502

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    Yea, but HSPA and HSPA+ shouldn't be classified as "4G". 4G does nothing but confuse people. I'd be fine with E, 3G, H, H+ and LTE as indicators.
     
  13. AutoUnion39 macrumors 601

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    Blame T-Mobile for this. They're the ones who started the whole HSPA=4G crap in the US.
     
  14. MattMJB0188 macrumors 68000

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    Your're right. They were marketing HSPA 14.4 as "4G". Absolutely pathetic they got away with that.
     

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