Anyone on AT&T with an iPhone 5 ever see 3G?

iPhone 4 = HSPA
iPhone 4S = HSPA/HSPA+
HSPA =3G
HSPA+ = 4G

 

An AT&T iPhone 4S and 5 on AT&T will never see 3G, even if it isn't on HSPA+. The carrier bundle set to never show it.

 

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when you're looking at 4G you are actually looking at 3G HSPA/HSPA+ technology. "4G" is just a marketing thing.

 

In areas where they don't have HSPA and only UMTS, then the phone would still display "4G". I think this is absolutely ridiculous that they even call H+ 4G. If its "4G" then why do I get 3G speeds. Apple should not have allowed this. It should say 3G and then LTE. That's it.

 

then what the hell are you asking? if you see 4G on there you are actually seeing 3G. only older models show that because of apple and at&t scumbag tactics

if you travel to europe where DC HSPA is widely avaliable you'll see 3G even on your iPhone 5 because european regulators don't fall for this bullcrap

 

Anyone on AT&T with an iPhone 5 ever see 3G?

Apple really has no ball on that court, they don't have a say in the matter. The United Nations International Telecommunications Union, ITU, defines the terms.

I suppose they *could* just to confuse consumers or something like they do in the UK. But I prefer standards compliance.

 

Yea, but HSPA and HSPA+ shouldn't be classified as "4G". 4G does nothing but confuse people. I'd be fine with E, 3G, H, H+ and LTE as indicators.

 

Blame T-Mobile for this. They're the ones who started the whole HSPA=4G crap in the US.

 

Your're right. They were marketing HSPA 14.4 as "4G". Absolutely pathetic they got away with that.