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The title really, how’s iOS 17 on the oldest iPhone supported? iOS has been very paltry on the oldest supported devices since forever. iOS 10 sucks on the iPhone 5 and 5c, iOS 9 killed the iPhone 4s, iOS 12 is quite poor on the iPhone 6, and iOS 15 is very poor on the iPhone 6s and 7.

How’s the now oldest supported iPhone Xʀ on iOS 17? How’s performance and battery life?
 
I got it on my XR since some hours now (the official update they published this evening).

I must say i had the same fears like you have, but don't worry, it's super fast, better than the last iOS 16 version.

No significant drop in battery, i think it was worse on 16.

No visible delays, for example the keyboard is a little quicker now. No problems with apps so far.

I love my XR and don't want any other phone for as long as possible. So i can ease you, no problems so far.
 
I got it on my XR since some hours now (the official update they published this evening).

I must say i had the same fears like you have, but don't worry, it's super fast, better than the last iOS 16 version.

No significant drop in battery, i think it was worse on 16.

No visible delays, for example the keyboard is a little quicker now. No problems with apps so far.

I love my XR and don't want any other phone for as long as possible. So i can ease you, no problems so far.
That’s great to hear! Some mentioned a decrease in battery life on different models, but others reported no (further) impact. We’ll see. I’d love to see a screenshot, too.

Hope performance remains decent for everyone, I’ve tested an iPhone 6s on iOS 13 and after using one on iOS 10 for years it was frankly appalling.

That said, I’m not a target user for this update. In fact:
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... I’m a bit behind.
 
After the phone settled in after the OTA update I don’t notice much of a difference between iOS 16 and iOS 17 in terms of performance. I thought some interactions could be quicker than iOS 16 but it could be a placebo effect. Battery life is too soon to tell.
 
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After the phone settled in after the OTA update I don’t notice much of a difference between iOS 16 and iOS 17 in terms of performance. I thought some interactions could be quicker than iOS 16 but it could be a placebo effect. Battery life is too soon to tell.
So far, according to what I’ve read, throughout multiple iPhones, it seems like battery life is worse, but I’ve seen a not-insignificant amount of people report a performance improvement in terms of smoothness, like you said. That’s a good sign. iOS 16 wasn’t well received in that regard, and to see many people report an improvement is great.
 
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The title really, how’s iOS 17 on the oldest iPhone supported? iOS has been very paltry on the oldest supported devices since forever. iOS 10 sucks on the iPhone 5 and 5c, iOS 9 killed the iPhone 4s, iOS 12 is quite poor on the iPhone 6, and iOS 15 is very poor on the iPhone 6s and 7.

How’s the now oldest supported iPhone Xʀ on iOS 17? How’s performance and battery life?
9:30 am till now 1:19 pm battery now 92% . On low power mode. Remind me a day. Before i do struggle with this phone max 6 hour doing nothing. Till i keep thinking 14 or 15 ? Next month
 
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ould said quite improvement battery life . my battery life 87% .

If it can last till midnight i would said good. me use as normal daily .
 
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ould said quite improvement battery life . my battery life 87% .

If it can last till midnight i would said good. me use as normal daily .
@I7guy like you saw in my previous reply, I tried. I tried my best not to be negative from the beginning when it comes to this topic. Just have a little faith, I said to myself. Maybe they didn’t worsen it again.

But what in the world is this screenshot? 1.5 hours of screen-on time 100-63%?! Facebook is pretty abhorrent on iOS, and it has been since the beginning, but this is worse than my iPhone 6s with high brightness, LTE, and camera. Hopefully this is just a one-time thing and it is better than this.

Thinking about it a bit more rationally, there can’t be such a massive difference between iOS 16 and iOS 17. This isn’t 30% worse than iOS 12, this is like 1/3 of what I’d get with the heaviest usage I can muster on iOS 12. Like I said, hopefully it’s better than this.
 
from my usage before , the worst is tik tok 😅. Lowest brightness and low battery mode on . We still have ipad 10th gen for social thing.
 
from my usage before , the worst is tik tok 😅. Lowest brightness and low battery mode on . We still have ipad 10th gen for social thing.
Hold on, that was at 0% brightness? Wow, hopefully it was a fluke.
 
@I7guy like you saw in my previous reply, I tried. I tried my best not to be negative from the beginning when it comes to this topic. Just have a little faith, I said to myself. Maybe they didn’t worsen it again.

But what in the world is this screenshot? 1.5 hours of screen-on time 100-63%?! Facebook is pretty abhorrent on iOS, and it has been since the beginning, but this is worse than my iPhone 6s with high brightness, LTE, and camera. Hopefully this is just a one-time thing and it is better than this.

Thinking about it a bit more rationally, there can’t be such a massive difference between iOS 16 and iOS 17. This isn’t 30% worse than iOS 12, this is like 1/3 of what I’d get with the heaviest usage I can muster on iOS 12. Like I said, hopefully it’s better than this.
There is no rational way that an assessment of battery life for iOS 17 can be made in less than a day and a generalized statement made from one macrumors poster. Additionally, Facebook has been known to be a battery life pig going back years.

There will be battery life comparisons on YouTube. While they don’t reflect each individual use case at least they are better than macrumors anecdotal experiences.
 
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There is no rational way that an assessment of battery life for iOS 17 can be made in less than a day and a generalized statement made from one macrumors poster. Additionally, Facebook has been known to be a battery life pig going back years.

There will be battery life comparisons on YouTube. While they don’t reflect each individual use case at least they are better than macrumors anecdotal experiences.
Absolutely! Which is why I said “hopefully it’s better than this”. Other efficient users have mentioned that iOS 16 represented a 25% battery life loss when compared to iOS 12. If iOS 17 isn’t a lot worse, and if it is the final iOS version for the iPhone Xʀ, maybe, just maybe, it can be the first iOS device with usable battery life on its final iOS version since... well, probably since the iPhone 5c.

Even if the loss is 35%, that would mean about 11 hours of light use and 7 hours of heavier use. Not amazing, but usable. Completely usable as a main device.

It’s a little like my 9.7-inch iPad Pro when Apple forced it into iOS 12. Is it like iOS 9? No. It’s 25% worse. Is it unusable? Absolutely not, 10-11 hours of light use is totally usable. I think that at this point, I guess I can’t find that too poor. Like I said, should the iPhone Xʀ end up with something a little worse than that, it should be usable. Which is the best we can hope for at this point, as long as it doesn’t completely kill the device (something like the iPhone 6s on iOS 15, unusable), I guess it’s... fine? Maybe?
 
Absolutely! Which is why I said “hopefully it’s better than this”. Other efficient users have mentioned that iOS 16 represented a 25% battery life loss when compared to iOS 12. If iOS 17 isn’t a lot worse, and if it is the final iOS version for the iPhone Xʀ, maybe, just maybe, it can be the first iOS device with usable battery life on its final iOS version since... well, probably since the iPhone 5c.

Even if the loss is 35%, that would mean about 11 hours of light use and 7 hours of heavier use. Not amazing, but usable. Completely usable as a main device.

It’s a little like my 9.7-inch iPad Pro when Apple forced it into iOS 12. Is it like iOS 9? No. It’s 25% worse. Is it unusable? Absolutely not, 10-11 hours of light use is totally usable. I think that at this point, I guess I can’t find that too poor. Like I said, should the iPhone Xʀ end up with something a little worse than that, it should be usable. Which is the best we can hope for at this point, as long as it doesn’t completely kill the device (something like the iPhone 6s on iOS 15, unusable), I guess it’s... fine? Maybe?
Imo, the “25%” battery loss is offset by the minimum 25% increase in functionality and security patches. So it balances out.

The claimed 29 hours of video playback by apple…if I got 20 hours I would be ecstatic.
 
Imo, the “25%” battery loss is offset by the minimum 25% increase in functionality and security patches. So it balances out.

The claimed 29 hours of video playback by apple…if I got 20 hours I would be ecstatic.
Funnily enough, I can’t recall the thread in which I said this, but I mentioned that this was an alternative solution to the problem.

If you (you being Apple) can’t stop obliterating battery life through iOS updates, then make it so good initially that it doesn’t matter when you take off 40% of the SOT in the 5, 6, 7 iOS updates a device receives, because battery life is way more than enough regardless.
 
Charged to 100% Yesterday at 23:18

24 hours later 43%

No idea what I have been using it for :D
Or what the iOS 16 equivalent usage was :p
 
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Funnily enough, I can’t recall the thread in which I said this, but I mentioned that this was an alternative solution to the problem.

If you (you being Apple) can’t stop obliterating battery life through iOS updates, then make it so good initially that it doesn’t matter when you take off 40% of the SOT in the 5, 6, 7 iOS updates a device receives, because battery life is way more than enough regardless.
iOS updates definitely caused a hit on a battery life. But imo since the a12 iOS updates cause a minor hit on battery life…mostly due to more concurrent operations and more functionality within iOS. These updates tax the processor and battery harder than then original version. It’s a good trade off. Batteries age anyway might as well get the most out of your iPhone.
 
That’s great to hear! Some mentioned a decrease in battery life on different models, but others reported no (further) impact. We’ll see. I’d love to see a screenshot, too.

Hope performance remains decent for everyone, I’ve tested an iPhone 6s on iOS 13 and after using one on iOS 10 for years it was frankly appalling.

That said, I’m not a target user for this update. In fact:
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... I’m a bit behind.
Why did you not update to iOS 12.4.1? It was the last update before iOS 13 for A9 devices and newer...
 
iOS updates definitely caused a hit on a battery life. But imo since the a12 iOS updates cause a minor hit on battery life…mostly due to more concurrent operations and more functionality within iOS. These updates tax the processor and battery harder than then original version. It’s a good trade off. Batteries age anyway might as well get the most out of your iPhone.
I wouldn’t call it minor, but battery life skyrocketed since the A12. With efficient usage, I was able to get around 11-12 hours on a Plus model on light Wi-Fi usage. I can get 16 on the Xʀ, and it got better ever since. The 11 Pro Max is better, the 13 Pro Max is incredibly good. If the 13 Pro Max has 25 hours of SOT with light use on iOS 15, and you stave off 40% by the final iOS update... well, you’ll still get 15 hours. More than enough. Which is an alternative solution. I’m not totally against this. And if battery life is good enough at first, and you don’t kill performance too... well, maybe updating can be worth it for some people. That’s a lot coming from me!
 
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Why did you not update to iOS 12.4.1? It was the last update before iOS 13 for A9 devices and newer...
It’s true, but I’ll never touch the update button if I can. I don’t think it makes a whole lot of difference.
 
I wouldn’t call it minor, but battery life skyrocketed since the A12. With efficient usage, I was able to get around 11-12 hours on a Plus model on light Wi-Fi usage. I can get 16 on the Xʀ, and it got better ever since. The 11 Pro Max is better, the 13 Pro Max is incredibly good. If the 13 Pro Max has 25 hours of SOT with light use on iOS 15, and you stave off 40% by the final iOS update... well, you’ll still get 15 hours. More than enough. Which is an alternative solution. I’m not totally against this. And if battery life is good enough at first, and you don’t kill performance too... well, maybe updating can be worth it. That’s a lot coming from me!
I agree. I haven’t really seen much battery degradation since the initial release of iOS on my max. Of course, I got a new battery last year or late the year before.

And of course “battery degradation” is purely subjective and anecdotal. The one YouTube tests I’ve seen shows little statistical battery loss between iOS 15 and iOS 16.

As we’ve discussed unlike my car i dont hypermile my iPhone as I want to enjoy the experience. Use it, abuse it, buy an update…rinse and repeat.
 
seem they repair the background services. day 2 still aint finish battery like old times. Before tiktok running background service even not allowed
 
I agree. I haven’t really seen much battery degradation since the initial release of iOS on my max. Of course, I got a new battery last year or late the year before.

And of course “battery degradation” is purely subjective and anecdotal. The one YouTube tests I’ve seen shows little statistical battery loss between iOS 15 and iOS 16.

As we’ve discussed unlike my car i dont hypermile my iPhone as I want to enjoy the experience. Use it, abuse it, buy an update…rinse and repeat.
Well, we’ve been over your Xs Max. Not this again. I’m not doing it again. Once was enough.
 
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