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HyperX13

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I started with bootcamp. I noticed myself using windows 7 more and more. Now I am pretty much on Windows 7 all the time. Anyone else do that? I still like OSX, but Windows 7 seems snappier when it comes to surfing the web (especially web sites that deal in lots of Java scripting and heavy graphics).

Anyone else in my camp?
 
It's a shame that you spent all that money on a Macbook Pro to primarily run Windows 7. I think perhaps the main attraction of any Mac is OS X. That and the design.
And isn't Safari like the fastest browser when running Java script? I'd have a hard time believing that Windows 7 was any faster. What browser are you using?
 
It's a shame that you spent all that money on a Macbook Pro to primarily run Windows 7. I think perhaps the main attraction of any Mac is OS X. That and the design.
And isn't Safari like the fastest browser when running Java script? I'd have a hard time believing that Windows 7 was any faster. What browser are you using?

I use Firefox primarily because of the plugins (like Xmarks and yes I know Xmarks works with Safari now). I am not running Windows 7 on purpose. In other words, when I bought my Mac Book pro, only Vista was out and that OS was a HOG and it just blew. Most of my computing is cloud based. My business runs using the paid version of google apps, we run sugarsync and evernote for document syncs and documentation as well as online version of quickbooks for accounting. All those apps run much faster when I am running Windows 7. Although OSX does boot up faster than Windows 7 on the mac book pro (with my SSD drive).
 
I had my MacBook Pro running Windows 7 alone for a week in order to give it a real good try-out. I must say that I was sorely tempted to have Win 7 as my only OS (I had Professional 64-bit running on it), but the lack of good organisational apps such as Address Book, iCal, Mail (I know Windows Live Mail does those two, but it sucks) and iSync was a serious deal breaker.

Windows 7 is certainly a massive improvement over Vista (and XP, in my opinion) and it performs beautifully on a MacBook Pro, but it didn't quite feel right on a Mac.

The brightness would always reset to maximum whenever the thing changed resolutions or turned off the screen and turned it on again (e.g. sleep), which drove me nuts. Also, I found that the 'palm rejection' feature of the trackpad didn't work, so the cursor would fly around whenever I typed anything. Battery life was also shot and the machine ran hot all the time. Plugged in, however, it was great for gaming and so on.

Those reasons (and a few more I won't go into) reminded me of why I bought a Mac in the first place. It also reminded me that Macs really are designed to work with Mac OS primarily. I had Snow Leopard fully backed up because I knew I'd probably go back eventually.

I'm happy to say that I dipped my toes in the other pool, but I'm glad back with Snow Leopard and its issue-free integration with my Mac's hardware and features. :)
 
I had my MacBook Pro running Windows 7 alone for a week in order to give it a real good try-out. I must say that I was sorely tempted to have Win 7 as my only OS (I had Professional 64-bit running on it), but the lack of good organisational apps such as Address Book, iCal, Mail (I know Windows Live Mail does those two, but it sucks) and iSync was a serious deal breaker.

Windows 7 is certainly a massive improvement over Vista (and XP, in my opinion) and it performs beautifully on a MacBook Pro, but it didn't quite feel right on a Mac.

The brightness would always reset to maximum whenever the thing changed resolutions or turned off the screen and turned it on again (e.g. sleep), which drove me nuts. Also, I found that the 'palm rejection' feature of the trackpad didn't work, so the cursor would fly around whenever I typed anything. Battery life was also shot and the machine ran hot all the time. Plugged in, however, it was great for gaming and so on.

Those reasons (and a few more I won't go into) reminded me of why I bought a Mac in the first place. It also reminded me that Macs really are designed to work with Mac OS primarily. I had Snow Leopard fully backed up because I knew I'd probably go back eventually.

I'm happy to say that I dipped my toes in the other pool, but I'm glad back with Snow Leopard and its issue-free integration with my Mac's hardware and features. :)


This is exactly why I love OSX. Apple's mail utility that syncs with my google apps account works and searches SOO much faster than Windows 7 one. I also like the address book and calendar and how all of it syncs with google apps. The search on Mac OS is faster as well. This is such a tug of war for me! I love OSX and here I am using the damn Windows!
 
Never. The main reason I own a MBP is because of OSX. I am very happy without Windows, and think OSX blows Windows 7 out of the water in terms of speed and reliability. Also, having to run an anti-virus program has got to take up some resources in Windows 7.
 
Never. The main reason I own a MBP is because of OSX. I am very happy without Windows, and think OSX blows Windows 7 out of the water in terms of speed and reliability. Also, having to run an anti-virus program has got to take up some resources in Windows 7.

I have never ran anti virus on my Windows 7 64 bit on my Macbook or my HP desktop. I am not sure if I am playing with fire or not, but so far so good.
 
I use both. The Win7 side for work and sometimes games. Rest of the time I'm in OSX.
 
I think perhaps the main attraction of any Mac is OS X.

No, not anymore. OS X missed the opportunity to become a mass operating system - thanks to its stupid, stubborn, restrictive EULA. There was a small time frame when OS X could have taken Windows' place, at least in the consumer area, and that was during the rather short Vista area where everybody was displeased with that version of Windows. Now with Windows 7 Microsoft is shipping the most user friendly version of Windows ever, and it's more compatible (with the rest of the world), robust and faster than Snow Leopard.

The only reason to buy a Mac now is when you really, really want to have that designer hardware on your lap or desk. Software-wise, unless you're a user of the three big Apple Pro applications Final Cut, Logic Pro or Aperture, there is zero reason to switch from a PC to a Mac.

Unlike what Apple's marketing machinery wants you make believe, there are counterparts for everything the small Apple software market has to offer, and you can run it on machines that only cost a fraction of what a Mac costs. I just saw a Quad Core AMD Phenom machine for 500 bucks with an ATI graphics card with 1 GB of video memory. At Apple, customizable machines with that horse power begin beyond the 2300 Euros price tag. And I doubt that the Mac Pro would be really that faster.

So, no - it's only the design and the designers' love for details why you purchase a Mac. There's nothing wrong with that. Apple sells good PCs. A bit pricey, but nice.
 
I have never ran anti virus on my Windows 7 64 bit on my Macbook or my HP desktop. I am not sure if I am playing with fire or not, but so far so good.

My advice, don't get a virus. Otherwise all that hard work your doing on your computer could potentially be lost. And that's why I use OSX :).
 
No, not anymore. OS X missed the opportunity to become a mass operating system - thanks to its stupid, stubborn, restrictive EULA. There was a small time frame when OS X could have taken Windows' place, at least in the consumer area, and that was during the rather short Vista area where everybody was displeased with that version of Windows. Now with Windows 7 Microsoft is shipping the most user friendly version of Windows ever, and it's more compatible (with the rest of the world), robust and faster than Snow Leopard.

The only reason to buy a Mac now is when you really, really want to have that designer hardware on your lap or desk. Software-wise, unless you're a user of the three big Apple Pro applications Final Cut, Logic Pro or Aperture, there is zero reason to switch from a PC to a Mac.

Unlike what Apple's marketing machinery wants you make believe, there are counterparts for everything the small Apple software market has to offer, and you can run it on machines that only cost a fraction of what a Mac costs. I just saw a Quad Core AMD Phenom machine for 500 bucks with an ATI graphics card with 1 GB of video memory. At Apple, customizable machines with that horse power begin beyond the 2300 Euros price tag. And I doubt that the Mac Pro would be really that faster.

So, no - it's only the design and the designers' love for details why you purchase a Mac. There's nothing wrong with that. Apple sells good PCs. A bit pricey, but nice.

I disagree. I still don't think Windows 7 is as friendly as OS X. I buy Macs for OSX. And I can assure you, a ton of people do the same as well. If OSX was available for every computer, then I might not own a MBP right now.

And yes, I had run OSX on a non Mac. And it is quite a chore to keep it stable and running smoothly.
 
No, not anymore. OS X missed the opportunity to become a mass operating system - thanks to its stupid, stubborn, restrictive EULA. There was a small time frame when OS X could have taken Windows' place, at least in the consumer area, and that was during the rather short Vista area where everybody was displeased with that version of Windows. Now with Windows 7 Microsoft is shipping the most user friendly version of Windows ever, and it's more compatible (with the rest of the world), robust and faster than Snow Leopard.

Are you seriously suggesting that in the cycle of ONE OS, the entire market had the time to shift over to a whole different OS? Come on man, use your brain!

I won't even go into the the aspect of the business world being entrenched in Windows.
 
My advice, don't get a virus. Otherwise all that hard work your doing on your computer could potentially be lost. And that's why I use OSX :).

I might load Avast. It's free and supposed to be good. :)
 
No, not anymore. OS X missed the opportunity to become a mass operating system - thanks to its stupid, stubborn, restrictive EULA. There was a small time frame when OS X could have taken Windows' place, at least in the consumer area, and that was during the rather short Vista area where everybody was displeased with that version of Windows. Now with Windows 7 Microsoft is shipping the most user friendly version of Windows ever, and it's more compatible (with the rest of the world), robust and faster than Snow Leopard.

The only reason to buy a Mac now is when you really, really want to have that designer hardware on your lap or desk. Software-wise, unless you're a user of the three big Apple Pro applications Final Cut, Logic Pro or Aperture, there is zero reason to switch from a PC to a Mac.

Unlike what Apple's marketing machinery wants you make believe, there are counterparts for everything the small Apple software market has to offer, and you can run it on machines that only cost a fraction of what a Mac costs. I just saw a Quad Core AMD Phenom machine for 500 bucks with an ATI graphics card with 1 GB of video memory. At Apple, customizable machines with that horse power begin beyond the 2300 Euros price tag. And I doubt that the Mac Pro would be really that faster.

So, no - it's only the design and the designers' love for details why you purchase a Mac. There's nothing wrong with that. Apple sells good PCs. A bit pricey, but nice.

This whole post is so insulting and condescending to most Mac users. I've been using Macs exclusively for 13 years. I have NEVER bought a Mac because of how fancy it looks, that's just stupid. It's always been about the Mac OS. My apps have to run on it ya know. It's not like I'm buying a Mac to pretty up my house. :rolleyes:
 
I have'nt put win7 on my mbp, but i have it on my htpc and i have to say i love it for that. I've been using it pretty much every day since the original beta release came out... never installed any antivirus, and i have not had one problem with spyware, viruses, or any of it... no bugs... it just works. I cant say it works better than a mac for anything but i would say it works just as well, for what its used for yes (hulu, firefox, netflix)...

all that said.. my imac and mbp are 100% my go to computers when i need to get anything done... they work better together and as a mac user i am just more comfortable with a mac.
 
I started with bootcamp. I noticed myself using windows 7 more and more. Now I am pretty much on Windows 7 all the time. Anyone else do that? I still like OSX, but Windows 7 seems snappier when it comes to surfing the web (especially web sites that deal in lots of Java scripting and heavy graphics).

Anyone else in my camp?

No...
 
No, not anymore. OS X missed the opportunity to become a mass operating system - thanks to its stupid, stubborn, restrictive EULA. There was a small time frame when OS X could have taken Windows' place, at least in the consumer area, and that was during the rather short Vista area where everybody was displeased with that version of Windows. Now with Windows 7 Microsoft is shipping the most user friendly version of Windows ever, and it's more compatible (with the rest of the world), robust and faster than Snow Leopard.

Apple tried licensing Mac OS (not version 10 yet) before 2000. It failed and Apple would have died as a company if Jobs hadn't stepped in and stopped the stupidity of that action. OS X isn't about quantity and no quality; it's about Quality and Quantity with capital Qs. Windows 7 is awesome and I applaud Microsoft for cleaning up Vista, but Microsoft makes more than 90% (not an exact statistic) of their Windows sales from PC vendors, not retail box sales. So far, only I have purchased 7 at a store, and not have it bundled with my new PC. My friends just bought new cheap PCs to replace their 1 year and dying cheap PCs. Windows will never be more robust than any Unix OS, being compatible with everything is what Linux does best, not Windows. OS X works on a carefully selected and tested list of hardware, so Apple has more control over the entire system (hardware and software) and better ensure that performance is at a certain standard. Microsoft can never do that. How can Windows 7 be faster than SL when SL boots faster and uses proven Unix foundations over virus-ridden Windows NT?

The only reason to buy a Mac now is when you really, really want to have that designer hardware on your lap or desk. Software-wise, unless you're a user of the three big Apple Pro applications Final Cut, Logic Pro or Aperture, there is zero reason to switch from a PC to a Mac.

It's not designer hardware. My friend wanted a new computer, specifically a 13". I told him a MBP 13", but he also wanted to compare HP's Envy 13. He likes HP and Lenovo brands. We got together at his house on day and configured both computers to match his budget. The MBP 13" was about $500 cheaper than the Envy with as almost matching configurations, we couldn't make it 100% exact (as much as we could) but the main components were the same. He showed his parents (accountants) and they bought him the MBP along with a refurbished 24" ACD display. He got all that for about the same as 1 HP Envy 13. Later his parents needed new computers and bought Macs because they got tired of buying cheaper PCs and just wanted quality, Macs or PCs. Macs were cheaper with comparable PCs.

Also, your statement is wrong because if that is the only reason to switch, how do you explain Apple's increasing quarterly reports? They always make more money/revenue than last year of the same quarter. iPod sale have peaked already and iPhone sales haven't increased enough to make this happen. This has been happening for over 4-5 years. Prices have actually lower than before too.


Unlike what Apple's marketing machinery wants you make believe, there are counterparts for everything the small Apple software market has to offer, and you can run it on machines that only cost a fraction of what a Mac costs. I just saw a Quad Core AMD Phenom machine for 500 bucks with an ATI graphics card with 1 GB of video memory. At Apple, customizable machines with that horse power begin beyond the 2300 Euros price tag. And I doubt that the Mac Pro would be really that faster.

First off, AMD processors are totally different than Intel processors. Just like PC vendors have different business plans than Apple. That PC you mentioned performs well only in certain fields. Macs perform better all around, not just CPU or GPU benchmarks. It's a complete system with quality hardware in every area, not just a few areas. I could buy a $10 million house but fill it with a few pieces of furniture and lack in certain areas or I could have a $5 million house with quality furniture everywhere around the house.

Apple pays attention to every aspect and detail of a computer, not just the CPU and GPU. Macs have aesthetically pleasing designs, fast processors, fast graphics, etc. That AMD machine only has a fast CPU and GPU, but what about other components of a computer? Probably the cheapest components and lacking in quality.


So, no - it's only the design and the designers' love for details why you purchase a Mac. There's nothing wrong with that. Apple sells good PCs. A bit pricey, but nice.

I love how you basically humiliated yourself with your lack of knowledge about computers and technology. My comments, or rather, corrections to incorrect statements are in red above.

Conclusion: I think PCs and Macs fill different niches of the computer market. PCs are cheaper and you can sacrifice in certain areas that doesn't matter to you (aesthetics, speakers, LCD panel) on stuff that does (CPU, WLAN card). Macs are a complete system, you buy, open, and use. You don't have to worry about a cheap FW card or USB ports failing because it costs less. It's just good all around.
 
Not me, while I now have win7 on my mbp, its primarily for work. I've been playing with it now for a bit and I'm underwhelmed. I don't understand all of the hype since it is just windows, with all of its inherit weaknesses and problems. There are still tons of viruses and malware. The registry is still a single point of failure and the UAC is still a pain (though Ms did tone it down).

Its not a bad OS, but I do think OSX is a much more stable, faster performing better functioning OS. Ms already admitted that they copied OSX, why get a bland copy instead of the real deal ;)

Overall I think win7 will be a huge success for MS, I don't think its a better OS then OSX or even Linux for that matter.

Just my $.02
 
I don't understand all of the hype since it is just windows, with all of its inherit weaknesses and problems.

It was Adolph Hitler that said if you say something loud enough and long enough you can have the masses believing whatever you want.

If Microsoft runs enough commercials saying 7 is the best OS ever made sooner or later there are going to be a bunch of mindless people running around saying "Windows 7 is the best operating system i have ever used!!!" with no real reason to say it...
 
It was Adolph Hitler that said if you say something loud enough and long enough you can have the masses believing whatever you want.

If Microsoft runs enough commercials saying 7 is the best OS ever made sooner or later there are going to be a bunch of mindless people running around saying "Windows 7 is the best operating system i have ever used!!!" with no real reason to say it...

Personally I have only seen one Windows 7 commercial and probably 20+ mac commercials. I still think Mac OS has a lot of good features, but I am finding myself use Windows 7 more and more.
 
Personally I have only seen one Windows 7 commercial and probably 20+ mac commercials. I still think Mac OS has a lot of good features, but I am finding myself use Windows 7 more and more.

If you honestly have only seen 1, thats cool but i have personally been bombarded with them. It seems like everywhere I turn its Win7 ads...
 
I use windows almost exclusively, but thats because my MBP is my work workhorse and i find windows7 to be much more efficient when it comes to getting work done. osx is better for casual use and as a toy or playing with videos. for serious work, windows is still generally more efficient IMO, but it is ugly as sin.
 
I use windows almost exclusively, but thats because my MBP is my work workhorse and i find windows7 to be much more efficient when it comes to getting work done. osx is better for casual use and as a toy or playing with videos. for serious work, windows is still generally more efficient IMO, but it is ugly as sin.

Hmmm, for me it's just the opposite. I use OS X for all my work (except the 2 apps that only run in Winodws and for those I use VMware Fusion and Windows 7).

My bootcamp Windows 7 partition is only for games and has no business apps at all, no office, and only the acrobat reader.

Cheers,
 
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