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I understand British Vogue wrote a brief "review," and Jony Ive and Marc Newson will be opening a Conde Nast luxury conference next month, but haven't seen much in the way of reviews from the fashion industry yet.

http://www.vogue.co.uk/news/2015/03/11/conde-nast-luxury-conference-apple-executives-speaking

Obviously, despite Apple's attempts to shape the conversation, the Apple Watch will be seen as a tech gadget first, not least of which because they chose to go with a rectangular design, but I'd be curious to see what kind of reviews the various combinations get. Christy Turlington Burns called the blue modern bracelet her "fashion chic" band, and while she is a biased reviewer (given Apple's sponsorship), it's those kinds of opinions from people seen as "objective" that will be critical to the Apple Watch's long term success.
 
Stop trying to make the Apple watch as fashion happen. It's not gonna happen.

I understand British Vogue wrote a brief "review," and Jony Ive and Marc Newson will be opening a Conde Nast luxury conference next month, but haven't seen much in the way of reviews from the fashion industry yet.

http://www.vogue.co.uk/news/2015/03/11/conde-nast-luxury-conference-apple-executives-speaking

Obviously, despite Apple's attempts to shape the conversation, the Apple Watch will be seen as a tech gadget first, not least of which because they chose to go with a rectangular design, but I'd be curious to see what kind of reviews the various combinations get. Christy Turlington Burns called the blue modern bracelet her "fashion chic" band, and while she is a biased reviewer (given Apple's sponsorship), it's those kinds of opinions from people seen as "objective" that will be critical to the Apple Watch's long term success.
 
I can wear my phone on my arm. Does that make it a fashion item?

A bad one. The Apple Watch, like any other watch, is something intentionally designed to be worn and visible. As such, it is making a fashion statement of some sort. Can you wear this and not look nerdy? That's the key question for the long term success of the Apple Watch.
 
I don't think it looks nerdy at all, but it's a device first and foremost.
A bad one. The Apple Watch, like any other watch, is something intentionally designed to be worn and visible. As such, it is making a fashion statement of some sort. Can you wear this and not look nerdy? That's the key question for the long term success of the Apple Watch.
 
I don't think it looks nerdy at all, but it's a device first and foremost.

It's still a fashion item, particularly since it's designed as an accessory, both in the fashion and technical senses.
 
So fitbits, pebbles, garmin, polar, etc are all fashion items?

I didn't say they were fashionable. However, they are still making fashion statements, albeit not great ones.
 
I didn't say they were fashionable. However, they are still making fashion statements, albeit not great ones.

Yup. Same with Google Glass, or that horrilbly big smart glass thing from Sony.

Even people who throw on whatever clothing combo they have without a care for fashion are making a statement, that is, "I don't care about fashion."
 
I didn't say they were fashionable. However, they are still making fashion statements, albeit not great ones.

Your assumption is based on an accessory being a fashion item. I see where you are coming from in some ways.

I don't consider gadgets to be fashion accessories. A quality mechanical watch is a fashion accessory for me. But that is my opinion
 
I find wearable technology to be a combination of technology and fashion, just like hi-tech running shoes, or a water proof technical shell for mountain climbing, etc. Each of us my decide to choose items that may lean one way a little more than the other, but they all cover both categories to a degree.
 
I don't consider gadgets to be fashion accessories. A quality mechanical watch is a fashion accessory for me. But that is my opinion

It's not a matter of opinions, it's a matter of definition.

Anything you wear on yourself is considered fashion. Tattoos, piercing, hair styles, nail polishes, clothes and jewelry are all considered fashion items

I understand the confusion though. its like trying to determine what qualifies as Art. Really anything..

fash·ion
ˈfaSHən/
noun
1.
a popular trend, especially in styles of dress and ornament or manners of behavior.
"his hair is cut in the latest fashion"
synonyms: vogue, trend, craze, rage, mania, fad; More
the production and marketing of new styles of goods, especially clothing and cosmetics.
"a fashion magazine"
synonyms: clothes, clothing design, couture;
 

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Your assumption is based on an accessory being a fashion item. I see where you are coming from in some ways.

I don't consider gadgets to be fashion accessories. A quality mechanical watch is a fashion accessory for me. But that is my opinion

A quality mechanical watch is the very definition of a gadget. The fact that it uses clockwork instead of a CPU does not change the fact that it's essentially a gadget for telling time.
 
Maybe, but over a hundred years or so, they've earned the right to be considered jewelry also, unlike Apple who have simply priced themselves into the category.
A quality mechanical watch is the very definition of a gadget. The fact that it uses clockwork instead of a CPU does not change the fact that it's essentially a gadget for telling time.
 
Maybe, but over a hundred years or so, they've earned the right to be considered jewelry also, unlike Apple who have simply priced themselves into the category.

So you need to be 100 years old to make jewelry? The Apple Watch is available in high-grade stainless steel, just like lots of other watches, with available choices of high-grade leather and stainless steel link bands. They also offer versions in 18kt solid gold. Whether or not it is fine jewelry, it meets the definition of jewelry.
 
It's not a matter of opinions, it's a matter of definition.

Anything you wear on yourself is considered fashion. Tattoos, piercing, hair styles, nail polishes, clothes and jewelry are all considered fashion items

I understand the confusion though. its like trying to determine what qualifies as Art. Really anything..

fash·ion
ˈfaSHən/
noun
1.
a popular trend, especially in styles of dress and ornament or manners of behavior.
"his hair is cut in the latest fashion"
synonyms: vogue, trend, craze, rage, mania, fad; More
the production and marketing of new styles of goods, especially clothing and cosmetics.
"a fashion magazine"
synonyms: clothes, clothing design, couture;

You are correct.

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A quality mechanical watch is the very definition of a gadget. The fact that it uses clockwork instead of a CPU does not change the fact that it's essentially a gadget for telling time.

That's like saying a Rolls-Royce and Hyundai will get you from A to B , yeah essentially they are a car..... One being essentially hand made and the other on an assembly line ;)

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So you need to be 100 years old to make jewelry? The Apple Watch is available in high-grade stainless steel, just like lots of other watches, with available choices of high-grade leather and stainless steel link bands. They also offer versions in 18kt solid gold. Whether or not it is fine jewelry, it meets the definition of jewelry.

No it does not . You are deciding for everyone that it meets the definition, it's actsully open to interpretation.

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/jewellery

By definition only the edition version is jewellery. Unless you consider aluminium, which you choose to ignore to suit your arguement and stainless steel for be valuable metals ..... Hardly.

If it's jewellery for you, great, it's not for others!
 
I didn't say they were fashionable. However, they are still making fashion statements, albeit not great ones.

So you do think we'd see fashion reviews on those? and why not? Then I think you'd get the same answer on an apple watch.
 
So you do think we'd see fashion reviews on those? and why not? Then I think you'd get the same answer on an apple watch.

Except the Apple Watch is a lot higher profile, and priced to boot. They are also changing their retail sales strategy to position the Apple Watch as a fashion item. Pebble and the others are not.
 
They are also changing their retail sales strategy to position the Apple Watch as a fashion item.

And they might even change the look of the store from all of Apple Stores we know. The picture of the Watch store in Japan posted on 9to5 could hint that the Watch Store might be mainly black, or has more black than the Apple Store. :eek:
 
Except the Apple Watch is a lot higher profile, and priced to boot. They are also changing their retail sales strategy to position the Apple Watch as a fashion item. Pebble and the others are not.

The Misfit certainly has especially with their Swarovski line but I wouldn't expect to see any fashion reviews of those either.
 
And they might even change the look of the store from all of Apple Stores we know. The picture of the Watch store in Japan posted on 9to5 could hint that the Watch Store might be mainly black, or has more black than the Apple Store. :eek:

I don't think that's the actual store. The store is hidden behind the black box.
 
I don't think that's the actual store. The store is hidden behind the black box.

It looks like the store is under construction. Watch-only stores are fairly rare. Movado attempted them a few years ago, but closed them. Watches are usually sold within department stores or jewelers. I wonder if Apple intends these as small kiosks to launch the product, or as a prototype for stores-within-a-store.
 
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I don't think that's the actual store. The store is hidden behind the black box.

I know. I'm just guessing. It would be fun to see a black Apple Store, and we have a little bit of chance here. AFAIK, all Apple Stores never have black color. What if we have some for the Watch store, like panels or wall?
 
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