Anyone use Neatbench on new iMac yet?

[thermalthrottle]

Hi, just wondering has anyone run neatbench on their new iMac yet, especially if you have either the i7 or i9 and the 5700xt. I'm in the process of finally upgrading from my 2013 MBP and really keen to find out what the real world performance benefits are of each model to help decide which to get.

Here is the benchmark if anyone is willing to try it out, https://www.neatvideo.com/download/neatbench

it's a good benchmark for testing both the gpu and cpu performance but more importantly is a good measure of performance for a Final Cut plugin I use a lot.

Thanks in advance,

 

[wilberforce]

This make me, and probably others, reluctant to run this for no apparent personal advantage:

 

[wilberforce]

And this:

 

[thermalthrottle]

This make me, and probably others, reluctant to run this for no apparent personal advantage:
View attachment 948155

Your concerns are reasonable and it is good that you are practicing caution. However, this app is a plug in for many video editing apps including Final Cut Pro and has been around for nearly 2 decades. I have run this benchmark many times on various systems without issues. There is even a forum where many people have discussed their results when running the neat bench tool. Annoyingly no one with the new 2020 iMacs have run it yet otherwise I wouldn't have asked on this forum.

Here is the forum where many creatives post their experience with the plug-in. https://www.neatvideo.net/viewtopic.php?t=12501

If it makes you feel better, you could create a guest account and run it in there, when you log out of the guest account nothing is saved to the system. If you are new to mac OS then you have to go to settings and click on the security icon to then allow the benchmark tool to run.

 

[thermalthrottle]

And this:
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Ok that's interesting, I haven't come across that message before and I last ran the benchmark 3 weeks ago on a 2019 16 inch MacBook Pro.

I'm hoping someone who is familiar with the plug in and uses it for either FCP, Resolve or Premier can shed some light on this.

 

[mlykke]

You can usually find the app on the drive and then right click on it and select the "open" option. That often allows you to open the app anyway

 

[SWolfe]

Is this what you need? Not sure if I did this right. Its a 2020 iMac i9 with he 5500xt

 

[jerwin]

Is this what you need? Not sure if I did this right. Its a 2020 iMac i9 with he 5500xt

Isn't there supposed to be a bit about

Checking OpenCL GPU #1:
GPU device name is: AMD Radeon PRO 500XT Compute Engine
8192 MB total
Check passed - will attempt to use the device

or words to that effect, as I don't have a 5500XT at hand.

followed by a process of deciding whether GPU only, CPU only, or a combination thereof produces the optimal results?

Perhaps it scrolled off the screen.

The terminal produces text-- it can be pasted directly into the comment thread.

 

[SWolfe]

Neat Bench (Neat Video 5.2.6) MacOS x64
Copyright (c) 1999-2020 Neat Video team, ABSoft.
All Rights Reserved.

GPU detection log:

Failed to load CUDA driver ("/usr/local/cuda/lib/libcuda.dylib")
If you use an NVIDIA card, please install the latest CUDA driver from NVIDIA.

Metal initialized successfully.
Checking Metal GPU #1:
GPU device name is: AMD Radeon Pro 5500 XT
8176 MB total
This device is not supported
Check failed - will not use the device


Neat Video benchmark:

Frame Size: 1920x1080 progressive
Bitdepth: 32 bits per channel
Mix with Original: Disabled
Temporal Filter: Enabled
Quality Mode: Normal
Radius: 2 frames
Dust and Scratches: Disabled
Repeat Rate: 0% of repeated frames
Jitter Filtration: Normal
Spatial Filter: Enabled
Quality Mode: Normal
Frequencies: High, Mid, Low, Very Low
Artifact Removal: Enabled
Edge Smoothing: Disabled
Sharpening: Disabled


Detecting the best combination of performance settings:
running the test data set on up to 20 CPU cores

CPU Model: Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-10910 CPU @ 3.60GHz

1 core: 3.6 frames/sec
2 cores: 7.25 frames/sec
3 cores: 10.2 frames/sec
4 cores: 12.9 frames/sec
5 cores: 15 frames/sec
6 cores: 16.4 frames/sec
7 cores: 17.2 frames/sec
8 cores: 16.8 frames/sec
9 cores: 15.8 frames/sec
10 cores: 14.5 frames/sec
11 cores: 12.8 frames/sec
12 cores: 12.4 frames/sec
13 cores: 11.7 frames/sec
14 cores: 10.5 frames/sec
15 cores: 10.1 frames/sec
16 cores: 9.55 frames/sec
17 cores: 9 frames/sec
18 cores: 8.48 frames/sec
19 cores: 8.14 frames/sec
20 cores: 7.77 frames/sec

Best combination: 7 cores: 17.2 frames/sec

 

[thermalthrottle]

Neat Bench (Neat Video 5.2.6) MacOS x64
Copyright (c) 1999-2020 Neat Video team, ABSoft.
All Rights Reserved.

GPU detection log:

Failed to load CUDA driver ("/usr/local/cuda/lib/libcuda.dylib")
If you use an NVIDIA card, please install the latest CUDA driver from NVIDIA.

Metal initialized successfully.
Checking Metal GPU #1:
GPU device name is: AMD Radeon Pro 5500 XT
8176 MB total
This device is not supported
Check failed - will not use the device


Neat Video benchmark:

Frame Size: 1920x1080 progressive
Bitdepth: 32 bits per channel
Mix with Original: Disabled
Temporal Filter: Enabled
Quality Mode: Normal
Radius: 2 frames
Dust and Scratches: Disabled
Repeat Rate: 0% of repeated frames
Jitter Filtration: Normal
Spatial Filter: Enabled
Quality Mode: Normal
Frequencies: High, Mid, Low, Very Low
Artifact Removal: Enabled
Edge Smoothing: Disabled
Sharpening: Disabled


Detecting the best combination of performance settings:
running the test data set on up to 20 CPU cores

CPU Model: Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-10910 CPU @ 3.60GHz

1 core: 3.6 frames/sec
2 cores: 7.25 frames/sec
3 cores: 10.2 frames/sec
4 cores: 12.9 frames/sec
5 cores: 15 frames/sec
6 cores: 16.4 frames/sec
7 cores: 17.2 frames/sec
8 cores: 16.8 frames/sec
9 cores: 15.8 frames/sec
10 cores: 14.5 frames/sec
11 cores: 12.8 frames/sec
12 cores: 12.4 frames/sec
13 cores: 11.7 frames/sec
14 cores: 10.5 frames/sec
15 cores: 10.1 frames/sec
16 cores: 9.55 frames/sec
17 cores: 9 frames/sec
18 cores: 8.48 frames/sec
19 cores: 8.14 frames/sec
20 cores: 7.77 frames/sec

Best combination: 7 cores: 17.2 frames/sec

Thanks for running the benchmark, seems the 5500XT hasn't been optimised by the developers yet. Will be interesting to see if the 16gb 5700XT on the iMac has been optimised or if it can use the same drivers as the regular 8gb 5700xt card? If so then it means the higher spec graphics option will work straight out of the box for many applications.

Also of interest to anyone thinking of upgrading from a MBP, the iMac's 10 core i9 on it's own without GPU seems to render the same frames per second as the 2019 16inch 8 core i9 plus 5500m 8gb. According to neat video's website the 8gb 5700xt card on it's own can render around 35 FPS so combined with the 10 core i9 we should be expecting well over 45 FPS if it's been optimised to use both together.

 

[jerwin]

seems the 5500XT hasn't been optimised by the developers yet

That's not unoptimized code. That's buggy code.

 

[thermalthrottle]

That's not unoptimized code. That's buggy code.

Yep, that or the devs haven't coded it for the card yet. They still haven't made the 5600m compatible with it yet as far as I'm aware.