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I deleted iPhoto from my machine (after making a backup!) and can confirm that it's still downloadable from Purchases. I can also still download Lion and Mountain Lion (an earlier post said that they fail, but they work for me!).
 
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because its currently installed on my Mac, thats why it says open

Right - so from your screenshot - you can't say whether or not you would be able to redownload it if it was no longer on your system.

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I deleted iPhoto from my machine (after making a backup!) and can confirm that it's still downloadable from Purchases. I can also still download Mavericks and Mountain Lion (an earlier post said that ML fails, but it works for me... but Lion is completely gone).

Thanks!
 
Waiting for Photos Pro.

I am too. I don't use Aperture for business - just family photos and organization. It will be around for another OS or 2 possibly so I'll just wait.

This is the same panic as when FCX came out. Features were missing and Apple added most of the key ones back in. Hopefully, they'll do the same with Photos.

For the record, I wasn't happy in either case (FCX or the demise of Aperture) with the lack of disclosure from Apple. Disappointing because I think if they had communicated their plans for either, not as many people would be bailing.

LR or Capture1 sure seem like viable options, but for now, I'm still with AP.

Cheers,
Keebler
 
I don't know about photos, but I can confirm lion and mountain lion is gone forever when I want to redownload it again (shown in my previous purchase, but error message when try to download). I assume this should be the same.

Just checked, I can still download Lion and Mountain Lion fine from the Mac App Store via Purchases.
 
I miss being able to use "Time Machine" with iPhoto (Apple removed it in version 9). You could open iPhoto then "Time Machine" to retrieve photo's further back than 30 days. Now you have to restore your entire library to retrieve even 1 image if you aren't using full iCloud Photo's services, which many aren't due to large libraries, etc.

"Recently Deleted" is cumbersome; the iPhoto Trash bin was quicker and easier, yet none of these solve the lacking "Time Machine" ability to restore photo's like other core OS X apps.
 
The fact that Apple does basically the same thing with Aperture what they did with FCP and X, canceling a product or even a whole product line (XSan, Shake etc.) really concerns me. I don't use FCP X at all (Adobe/Avid) however I bought a nMP and while I am very pleased with the machine, I'm very concerned about the "pro line" at Apple. They never made clear roadmaps and consumers bring in a heck more money than "us pros" but at this point, they could basically kill everything "pro" and just go with it. I really don't like this direction at all.

I really like long OS cycles, but right now I hold on Mavericks and will probably never upgrade, looking at the Yosemite and beyond situation. When I compare Mav/Yose with Win7 and 8.1, they are by far more matured OSs.
 
This is the same panic as when FCX came out. Features were missing and Apple added most of the key ones back in. Hopefully, they'll do the same with Photos.

I would really, really, like that to happen, but I think you're wrong. This is not the same case as with FCX. That was a product still aiming for the pros, just restarting. Apple was quick to assure that it would get better (and it did).

Photos will, of course, be improved over time. Some Aperture-like features will arrive. But it's quite clear that Apple is not catering to the pros anymore. They have sent a very clear message about that. There has been no reassuring that Photos will be rebuilt into a pro level app that Aperture was.

I think the whole situation is just sad. I cannot stop thinking about what Aperture would have been today if Apple hadn't let it wither. It was so promising once. Despite Aperture being essentially abandoned for years the main strengths are still considered better that competition. Yes, Lightroom is way ahead on many levels and producing better results, but not when it comes to organisation and some of the logic behind Aperture that just feels more natural. Capture One seems promising, but is not there yet either.

And all the investment into adjustments, organisation and metadata is just not possible to migrate at this point and maybe never will (although I hope Photos will improve in this area at least).
 
When or if I ever move to Photos from iPhoto how well will it handle my photo library (no videos) of over 100GB?
 
Removing Aperture and iPhoto is a good sign for all of us. It demonstrates Apple hasn't lost that knack of never allowing the past to inhibit the future.

And Apple should be immensely proud of the achievements in releasing the first version of Photos for Mac to everyone. It's a remarkably stable and feature-rich product, and Apple is giving it away for free to every mac user.
 
Removing Aperture and iPhoto is a good sign for all of us. It demonstrates Apple hasn't lost that knack of never allowing the past to inhibit the future.

Uh..what ? Do you even know what Aperture is ? Photos is not an Aperture replacement. It's a consumer product. It's replacing iPhoto.
That's like saying today's new Retina Macbook is replacing last year's MacPro..
Apple has not replaced Aperture with any new product.
 
Uh..what ? Do you even know what Aperture is ? Photos is not an Aperture replacement. It's a consumer product. It's replacing iPhoto.
That's like saying today's new Retina Macbook is replacing last year's MacPro..

They are all photo management apps. Granted Aperture had a few additional features some people liked. But for the vast majority, I think Photos is a great solution to the photo management (and backup) problem.
 
They are all photo management apps. Granted Aperture had a few additional features some people liked. But for the vast majority, I think Photos is a great solution to the photo management (and backup) problem.

Yeah, just like a 100$ PC netbook and a Cray supercomputer are all computers. Granted, the 1 million$ Cray has a few additional features some people like.
:rolleyes:
 
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Sometime the conveinece of Apple stuff is undone by Apple's refusal to support stuff. I have a 4S and have not been able to use FaceTime for over a year because I never update my phone IOS more than once - things get too slow. But despite Apple being richest company on Earth if you don't upgrade when they say you are screwed. Photos might be great, but iPhoto works so I don't have any need to upgrade just for kicks and giggles.

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Also we need a separate video management application. My camera and phone and everything takes videos and I wish they were not all mixed up.
 
LR and Backup.

I switched to LR4 when I had a problem while migrating my photo database to a new mac. Carbon copy saved me.

I also hated the fact that each time I made a small change, the whole data base needed to be backed up. I am not a pro but I want my backups to be safe. I can just copy the changed LR folders to google docs, time-machine and the external device. It works well for me, though I would like some automated way for google docs.
 
Reinstalled my MBA yesterday from a fresh 10.10.3 install. After reading this thread tried to redownload and reinstall Aperture from MAS.

Works fine.
 
Removing Aperture and iPhoto is a good sign for all of us. It demonstrates Apple hasn't lost that knack of never allowing the past to inhibit the future.

And Apple should be immensely proud of the achievements in releasing the first version of Photos for Mac to everyone. It's a remarkably stable and feature-rich product, and Apple is giving it away for free to every mac user.

you make me sick, apple paid ****** idiot....
 
Do you think that will be a part of iTunes or will that be a new app?

No. It'll be one app.

iTunes tab will be the store.
Beats will be the streaming.
Radio is of course radio
Music tab will contain your playlists, albums/songs (hopefully they'll keep the artists/albums that are in the Playlists separate from the actual Artist tab and Album tabs (like Spotify and the current Beats setup). I don't want to scroll through long lists of artists or albums because my playlists have onesies and twosies in them.

I'm eager to see what they do with it. Hopefully someone with some basic design sense fixes the music app.
 
Just managed to install 10.10.3 on my old 2008 iMac so I can try out Photos. I upgraded to a 2011 27" last year, so I can afford to experiment on the old one. This was by far the most troubled upgrade of OSX I have tried, but that's another story, it is up and running smoothly now, and Photos is importing an old Aperture library for me to test on. This one won't be connected to iCloud, as I don't want gigabytes of Raw photos uploaded. I will later create another empty iCloud library to sync all my phone and iPad photos across.

Like a lot of photographers, I was very weary about Aperture's future some time ago with the lack of major upgrades, with various rumours about them working on a major overhaul the way they have before, namely FCPX. It was obvious they wanted better integration and syncing with their iOS devices, which could be a killer feature for iPads for creative professionals, in particular photographers. Artists are still waiting on an iPad Pro with stylus support, at least it seems they will get force touch.
Alas, no Aperture-like iOS app synced with a new polished iCloud-integrated Aperture; instead we get a very consumer-oriented Photos across the line, great for the mass of iPhone casual snappers. Aperture is truly dead, with no hint or reassurance something is coming.
I am yet to try Photos out for myself as it is busy importing a large library as I type, but going by the reviews from a photographer's perspective, it is not meant for any serious work, no prospect of a surprise Aperture Pro. A hint of that is for instance when it imports ratings and colour labels, they are simply converted to keywords. From hereon in, it is Hearts or nothing. So no proper rating and labelling system is planned for the near future given they don't preserve it behind the scenes. Nevermind all the other missing features, if they don't even make an attempt to preserve certain existing functions photographers rely on, it doesn't bode well.

So basically I hope to use it to manage my i-device photo albums, and hopefully it can be integrated into my social media workflow. Currently I use Dropbox, and more recently, Photosync, as a way to get photos from Aperture onto my iPad to be further edited for Instagram and Facebook.

The troubled Yosemite upgrade which required a reinstall from my backup and starting over doesn't fill me with confidence for my main production machine; Aperture will remain my main photo app for the foreseeable future, after which maybe Capture One will be my mainstay, perhaps with some Photos App for exported finals for Instagram and Flickr, as I enjoy working with various iOS apps.
There is nothing to truly replace Aperture, certainly Lightroom has evolved much better editing tools, but its workflow and metadata editing sucks. Capture One is the closest so far, and seems to be moving in the right direction, but also exceedingly expensive. Maybe by the time I'm ready to move, it will have even better Aperture import. As it is, it does a better job than Lightroom in preserving what it can from Aperture.

I will assume for now the unavailability of Aperture for upgrade is a temporary glitch, as it needs upgrading before it can run on Yosemite. They have clearly said, and others have confirmed, that all previously acquired or installed apps will continue to be available, just not for new purchases. I feel that ever since they announced Aperture's demise, they should have made Aperture available for free. I'm not sure if they made it clear on the store that it had been deprecated.
 
Other than Lr?

Other than the Adobe products - are there other products that can replace Aperture? I need Geo coding, Faces, App plug-in editing, smart folders, in product editing.
 
I'm not a pro photographer and I own a decent camera (Nikon D40 w/ 18-55mm and 55-200mm lenses) so Photos works fine for me.

However it bugs the living s*** out of me how it organizes photos by location and date and you get no option otherwise, especially since Apple Maps thinks the capital of Tennessee is "District 47." I feel like I'm in the Hunger Games or something.

(I've reported that issue with Maps and lately Photos every month for the last two years and it hasn't been updated)
 
iPhoto disabled in Application folder

I installed 10.10.3 yesterday and iPhoto is disabled in Applications. If I click it says is not the latest version and to update from App Store. It shows in my purchases list and is marked Update, but nothing happens when I do.
 
We've been in the post-i era a while now. They can't get rid of it while they still sell iPhones, but there hasn't been a new iProduct for a good while, and the Apple Watch signifies we probably won't be seeing any more. I suspect Sir Jony had a particular dislike for it. Perhaps all new music products will come under the Beats brand.

It is interesting that they chose 'Photos'. They couldn't possibly get a trademark on something so generic which leads me to believe they don't have any great ambition for it beyond being a bundled app. Some have hinted that it could ultimately be a whole infrastructure for all kinds of professional and prosumer photo related work but that seems unlikely if they're not even interested in building a protected brand.

The have moved from iCal to Calendar as well. Don't think the trademarkability is a big concern for them for bundled apps. Other bundled apps like Mail also don't have very original names. I think the policy is to have the most straightforward name for any app that provides the baseline support for a certain functionality. Even the move from Addressbook to Contacts was about simplifying, there is no 'book' involved anymore (it went out with all skeuomorphism), it's just your plain 'contacts'.

The newest 'i' product name is iBooks and that was released in 2010 when Jobs was still alive and Scott Forstall was still running iOS.
 
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