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icloud said:
So Will There be a Prompt Stopping anyone from installing it who doesnt meet system requirements?!

probably. but somebody will find a way around it, they always do. you might have to wait a while though. I can't remember if FCP had one of those annoying prompts... though I guess my computer almost meets the minimum requirements so I wouldn't have seen it.

makes you wonder.
 
Xenious said:
And thats a big deal to people? I'd be more excited about an Apple "photoshop".
You've been reading all the information; makes it worth spending $500?

Here is a short list.

1. 100% raw workflow beginning to end -no other product offers this.
2. Image stacking for group editing and comparisons
3. Full featured free-form light table
4. Album designer (like iPhoto, but on steroids)
5. Versioning
6. Compares
7. Loupe tool
8. Fast, and easy to use Apple UI.
9. Good enough for client consults.

Here's to the Crazy Ones
 
kcmac said:
iView Media Pro - $199. Glad you like it but Aperture and iView aren't really quite the same.

Uhh, yah, I got the upgrade price...but it is a great program; much better then i-Photo for organizing/managing pics, creating albums, etc.. I agree that IView and Aperture aren't the same thing but it seemed to me that in many posts readers were looking for a better alternative to i-Photo/photoshop and perhaps iView is more suited to their needs then Aperture: just my 2 (euro)cents....
 
UK shipping date

Any ideas when it'll ship in the UK? It's presently showing as 'now shipping' on the US site only.
 
Aperture does the same as PhaseOne CaptureOne Pro... for exactly the same price... only difference: Aperture means new Videocard in my G5 -> thus more expensive... but I don't really like to work with CaptureOne... so I'm curious about Aperture (using the Photoshop raw conversion now, its better than Nikon Capture...) & I'm waiting for my OK to get the Canon 1DsMKII & probably picking up a copy of aperture then...

we'll see ;)
 
Jo-Kun said:
Aperture does the same as PhaseOne CaptureOne Pro...

Really. :) So CaptureOne's unpublicized features include adjustment and manipulation effects applied to RAW data in real-time with unlimited versioning (without using disk space)? And how about copying and applying those effects to other photos? Or a loupe that shows you any part of any photo on your lightbox at full-pixel resolution? Or advanced book and contact-sheet layout?

I don't think Aperture is like any software previously published. Not if it lives up to half its advertised coolness.
 
CaptainHaddock said:
Really. :) So CaptureOne's unpublicized features include adjustment and manipulation effects applied to RAW data in real-time with unlimited versioning (without using disk space)? And how about copying and applying those effects to other photos? Or a loupe that shows you any part of any photo on your lightbox at full-pixel resolution? Or advanced book and contact-sheet layout?

I don't think Aperture is like any software previously published. Not if it lives up to half its advertised coolness.


Capture one doesn't do it real time... because off course that's the new feature in aperture... thus need for a bigger computer & graphics card...

copying and applying effects to other photo's is perfectly possible with the RAW plugin in Photoshop ;)

I'm very curious about aperture... that's no secret ;) but allso sceptic :p that's why... I will go to the Aperture Seminar in Brussels on 13dec... to see it with my own eyeys (and hopeing it won't just be a demo on a big screen but there well be the possibility to use it yourself... (I'll squeeze some images on a disk and ask if I can work with those ;))
 
I can't wait to try out this application. But I'll have to wait until January.
 
SiliconAddict said:
Woot. Now all we need is a laptop that can run the thing! :p ;)

Seriously though here's to Aperture Express at MWSF!
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Aperture Express = iPhoto
 
I don't have any RAWS, but I do have a couple thousand JPGs in iPhoto. Can Aperture help me with those - like a better iPhoto? Or is it only for RAWs?
 
I've got it

...actually my wife has it, since she's the pro photographer with the flexible schedule. Our local Apple store biz rep called over and let us know they had it in stock. This call came just 18 hours after the same rep told us he wasn't expecting it in the store until early December!

Definitely a nice surprise for sure!

I'll post some info once I get a chance to play with it this evening.

The box looks nice.

Damon
 
DamonNoisette said:
...actually my wife has it, since she's the pro photographer with the flexible schedule. Our local Apple store biz rep called over and let us know they had it in stock. This call came just 18 hours after the same rep told us he wasn't expecting it in the store until early December!

Definitely a nice surprise for sure!

I'll post some info once I get a chance to play with it this evening.

The box looks nice.

Damon
Be prepared for a lot of questions. You are going to get hammered! :)

Congrats.
 
Harry322 said:
I don't have any RAWS, but I do have a couple thousand JPGs in iPhoto. Can Aperture help me with those - like a better iPhoto? Or is it only for RAWs?
Because Aperture can export a RAW file to Photoshop, where you can manipulate it further, then save the image back in to Aperture, I assume it supports JPEG 100%.

Each 'version' of a RAW file in Aperture is not another file, just simply instructions on how the version is produced from the original. Since Aperture does not contain "instructions" to apply all the effects and manipulations you can do in PS, it must save that version as a totally new file, which I am willing to guess is a JPEG.

There's no way PS is going to edit a file and then sent it back to Aperture as an editted/manupulated RAW file.

Better yet: straight from Apple.com
File Formats

* Native RAW import and editing from leading dSLR cameras
o CRW, NEF, TIF, CR2, OLY, DNG
* Compatible with all major still image formats
o JPEG, GIF, TIFF, PNG, PDF, PSD(1)

So yes - you can use Aperture as a super-duper iPhoto replacement. :D
 
adamfilip said:
you talk as if 80gb is alot anymore

That's still almost 20 SL DVDs or almost 10 DL. So for removable shiny discs, yes. Never mind that a national store is selling $90 SATA 300GB drives with no rebate right now :)
 
artifex said:
That's still almost 20 SL DVDs or almost 10 DL. So for removable shiny discs, yes. Never mind that a national store is selling $90 SATA 300GB drives with no rebate right now :)
How about a name? That is a great price.
 
manu chao said:
On a notebook it is if you do not like to lug around an external drive.

That's why there are full-sized iPods. :) My 60 GB PowerBook drive is overwhelmed but my 40 GB iPod drive is quite helpful.
 
Harry322 said:
I don't have any RAWS, but I do have a couple thousand JPGs in iPhoto. Can Aperture help me with those - like a better iPhoto? Or is it only for RAWs?
While Aperture can easily handle JPEG with RAW, I'm not sure if you are a great match for the program. It doesn't seem like you shoot that much, and there are many other cheaper options for your limited numbers of images.

This is designed as a Pro application - my typical work is extended field shooting with 2 bodies, generating about 600 images a day. If I'm gone for a couple of weeks, that might add up to 10,000 images. Multiple trips per year, over years, and it all becomes an organizational nightmare. Hence Aperture's emphasis on workflow.

One of the "free" things almost every photographer can do is to focus on improving their current cataloging in simple ways. For example, create a standardized naming system - this is the first thing I do when images come into my computer. My numbering is D2005_00001, and I add an R if it is originally a RAW file attached. I use "A Better Finder Rename", which is an awesome piece of software. I used to use my own Applescript, but this is loads faster, much more powerful, and only costs about $20.

Hence just by looking at the file, I know it's digital (allow me to catalog my scanned, older, non-didgital images as well), the year it was taken and the images around it. I have a simple Excel spreadsheet that I can reference with the date, location, and other info. A lot of this is saved in the file itself, but I like being able to scan every shoot I've ever done in one file, so I can go directly and look up multiple shoots from many different years.
 
CalfCanuck said:
While Aperture can easily handle JPEG with RAW, I'm not sure if you are a great match for the program. It doesn't seem like you shoot that much, and there are many other cheaper options for your limited numbers of images.

Aperture isn't exclusive! You don't have to class yourself as a pro to justify the purchase and earn the right to use this app! It's a faily cheap peice of software in my view and if someone wants an upgrade from iphoto with an ambition to bettering their photography experience then surely, they are a great match for this program... Regardless of whether you shoot, raw, tiff, jpeg on DSLR, SLR or P&S you'll love this program. Forget spreadsheets, databases and complex indexing systems, Aperture is going to free up our time so we can get on with spending quality time behind our lenses...

It's a no brainer that aperture will bolster the mac as the photographers choice and in my opinion the more people on the aperture band wagon the better, regardless of their 'status'.

I took 2751 images yesterday covering a total of 29 dance performances and I'm eagerly awaiting my pre-order! Anyone take delivery in the UK yet?
 
phonic pol said:
Aperture isn't exclusive! You don't have to class yourself as a pro to justify the purchase and earn the right to use this app! It's a faily cheap peice of software in my view and if someone wants an upgrade from iphoto with an ambition to bettering their photography experience then surely, they are a great match for this program... Regardless of whether you shoot, raw, tiff, jpeg on DSLR, SLR or P&S you'll love this program. Forget spreadsheets, databases and complex indexing systems, Aperture is going to free up our time so we can get on with spending quality time behind our lenses...

It's a no brainer that aperture will bolster the mac as the photographers choice and in my opinion the more people on the aperture band wagon the better, regardless of their 'status'.

I took 2751 images yesterday covering a total of 29 dance performances and I'm eagerly awaiting my pre-order! Anyone take delivery in the UK yet?
I'm sorry if my post was misunderstood - I'm not saying it is exclusive, but was rather pointing out that not everyone who has some unorganized pictures needs to spend the $500 to create order out of their chaos.

While I would also agree that it appears to be a good price for what it does (I spent $4000 for a network version of Cumulus, so you won't hear me complaining!), there have been as lot of posts around here that seem to argue that $500 is too much money. You, and I , firmly disagree, but my post was meant for those who do feel this way.
 
CalfCanuck said:
I'm sorry if my post was misunderstood - I'm not saying it is exclusive, but was rather pointing out that not everyone who has some unorganized pictures needs to spend the $500 to create order out of their chaos.

I agree. Many can buy Aperture, but not everyone will make the software "sing" and use it fully. There are quite a few alternatives, and for many, iPhoto is one of them.
And that's not to say anything derogatory about iPhoto. But I wouldn't recommend Aperture for your garden variety snapshooter. Clearly, this would be overkill!

I've been playing around with Aperture all day. Trying to get my sea legs, so to speak. So far, my VERY EARLY impressions are this:

1) Go through the DVD tutorials. The chapters are short and concise, even for those who are suffering from ADD.

2) RTFM. There is a decent "getting started" book enclosed with Aperture and you'll want to peruse it AFTER you've watched the general overview on DVD.

3) Loupe feature kicks major gluteus maximus. (I have a couple of Schneider-Kreuznach loupes on my light table....expensive and neglected in this digital age....if I weren't so Old School I'd Ebay the suckers).

4) Web publishing....eh. I still have to examine the ins and outs here and the full potential. But I'm a bit nonplussed at first examination. Where are the templates? Customization? Here's hoping that this is an area where the third party developers can jump in ala Spotlight, Widgets, etc.

5) For event photography, I think I'm gonna like it here. Aperture is much, much more than iPhoto on steroids. I also appreciate the iTunes-ian manner in which photo libraries and playlists.....err, "albums" are organized. If you know iPhoto and iTunes, you'll take like a duck to water, until.....

6) .....you realize that there is a learning curve as is the case for any well-considered software. But I don't feel overwhelmed. Kudos to Apple for keeping things (mostly) consistent and adaptive.

Conclusion? Aperture is to iPhoto what Final Cut Pro is to iMovie, more or less. I think.
You won't be removing Photoshop from your hard drive, nor will you need to forget how to edit basic HTML and CSS if you work "hands on" with your web galleries.
But I think $500 is about right. As a working photographer, I certainly do not feel as though I've been "had" with my investment in the program. I look forward to learning more about what this software can do for me, fully aware that this process will take time.

Well, I know what I'm doing for a spell.....if you are a working photographer or a supervisor of image collections or someone with too much money....good luck and have FUN!
 
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