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Aperture's Iris Closing?
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I played around with Lightroom - don't really care for it. It's missing a lot of features that that kind of software should have and also actually applies things to the photo so if you want to undo something you have to keep hitting undo and lose all of your changes. Example if I want to set it to sepia and make a few changes, if I decide I don't like the sepia but want to keep my current changes, oh well - have to undo all until I get the sepia removed.Abstract said:
...that or I'm just an idiot who didn't know how to use the app
Aperture is good!
Me too. Aperture is a VERY GOOD piece of software, and can be better, of course, and it already has some creative edge and huge potential for growth.
Please don't abandon this project! -- we need some competition with Adobe, so they won't pump up the prices and leave us with only one choice in pro photo editing. We don't need one more Photoshop monopoly -- WE WANT CHOICE and MORE OPTIONS! Rewrite application if you need, but let it be.
eXan said:Lol funny, but I have just returned from Apple Aperture seminar
I reall like this app, even more than iPhoto. Hope Apple won't stop developing it. Would be very, very sad
Me too. Aperture is a VERY GOOD piece of software, and can be better, of course, and it already has some creative edge and huge potential for growth.
Please don't abandon this project! -- we need some competition with Adobe, so they won't pump up the prices and leave us with only one choice in pro photo editing. We don't need one more Photoshop monopoly -- WE WANT CHOICE and MORE OPTIONS! Rewrite application if you need, but let it be.
maveness said:
Did anyone read the TS story??.. TS did not state that Aperture will be killed, only that it is in trouble. They state that it is possible a new team will completely rewrite aperture and get it right in version 2.0. You guys should sometimes click on the link the article references and read the original for yourselves
The one thing that would shut up 99% of Aperture's critics would be if Apple would just include something that looks like a curves function and does that job. Hell, make it look the same as curves and call it curves and have done with it. This is one time when 'Think Different' doesn't matter and would move the application forward leaps and bounds.
wnurse said:
I quote "Aperture future in doubt."
Taken from the Think Secret article, on simply reading this first part of the headline I immediately think of dying software, but then no where in the article do they mention that the program will ever be axed.
Aperture has an awesome interface and feature set. It's only downfall is that it's slow, but already in 1.1. it's leagues better.
Had it worked on much lighter equipment from the start, it would be pretty well liked but the system requirements are extremely high.
The Lightroom interface isn't nearly as intuitive but it will work on my 1.33 GHz PowerBook reasonably well. So, style or functionality? Functionality. If Apple's other teams can get it under control, all the better but isn't Motion a pig, too?
The Lightroom interface isn't nearly as intuitive but it will work on my 1.33 GHz PowerBook reasonably well. So, style or functionality? Functionality. If Apple's other teams can get it under control, all the better but isn't Motion a pig, too?
If this were true, it would be a reputation-loss for Apple... never start what you can't finish.
On the competitive threat of Lightroom... I always felt that Adobe's lack of universal support was a punishment for Apple trying to compete with it. Of course, I have no proof of this. I also don't use any of either photo-related products.
On the competitive threat of Lightroom... I always felt that Adobe's lack of universal support was a punishment for Apple trying to compete with it. Of course, I have no proof of this. I also don't use any of either photo-related products.
This "news" made me sad but I'm still not freaking out. I believe it's just that the ThinkSecret guys are too stupid to get that there is a difference between disbanding the current product team (or part of it) and discontinuing the product itself.
My wild ass guess for what had happened would be:
Steve Jobs: [bursts into a conference room, amidst a discussion about the furture of Aperture] "YOU GUYS SUCK! This app is not teh snappy enough. You are a bunch of retards. Aperture's success would have enabled me to reach nirvana and you ruined it. I'm gonna' ****ing kill you. I'm gonna' replace you with very small applescripts..."[takes out cast aluminum machete from a stylish leather case designed by Ive himself]
Edit: BTW, has anyone tried Aperture on an Intel Mac? Version 1.1 was a noticeable improvement and now Aperture runs reasonably fast on a 1.67GHz Powerbook. Seeing that Macbook Pro is supposedly ~5 times faster, one should have no complains about sluggishness on one of those.
My wild ass guess for what had happened would be:
Steve Jobs: [bursts into a conference room, amidst a discussion about the furture of Aperture] "YOU GUYS SUCK! This app is not teh snappy enough. You are a bunch of retards. Aperture's success would have enabled me to reach nirvana and you ruined it. I'm gonna' ****ing kill you. I'm gonna' replace you with very small applescripts..."[takes out cast aluminum machete from a stylish leather case designed by Ive himself]
Edit: BTW, has anyone tried Aperture on an Intel Mac? Version 1.1 was a noticeable improvement and now Aperture runs reasonably fast on a 1.67GHz Powerbook. Seeing that Macbook Pro is supposedly ~5 times faster, one should have no complains about sluggishness on one of those.
Wow. As some of said I think a lot of this is over-reaction to a poorly written story.
I'm a sofware product marketing manager (NOT apple) and sometimes you have to kill a team that's not done the job required of them. This does not mean you kill the product.
The "Future in Doubt" can mean so many things, including "we now have no idea what this does to the release cycle".
As someone else pointed out, if you are killing a product, you don't try and ship it to as many people as possible before you drop them in the lurch by killing the product. You quietly let it slip away. Apple is big on brand trust, at this stage in their evolution, they pretty much trade off it.
Often these things are like a shot-in-the-arm for the product, driving it off in new directions with new energy.
I'm a sofware product marketing manager (NOT apple) and sometimes you have to kill a team that's not done the job required of them. This does not mean you kill the product.
The "Future in Doubt" can mean so many things, including "we now have no idea what this does to the release cycle".
As someone else pointed out, if you are killing a product, you don't try and ship it to as many people as possible before you drop them in the lurch by killing the product. You quietly let it slip away. Apple is big on brand trust, at this stage in their evolution, they pretty much trade off it.
Often these things are like a shot-in-the-arm for the product, driving it off in new directions with new energy.
If Aperture as a whole so far has been a 'mess', then how cool will it be by the time they have remedied it?
Has anyone actually called Apple to check this story out though? If it's true, I suspect there would be 'no comment'. However, if it's all a red herring, you might expect Apple to firmly deny it.
Has anyone actually called Apple to check this story out though? If it's true, I suspect there would be 'no comment'. However, if it's all a red herring, you might expect Apple to firmly deny it.
longofest said:
Me. Although still in beta and a bit rough around the edges, this is an outstanding application. It runs quite smoothly on my lowly Mac Mini 1.25Ghz / 1GB even with it's Radeon 9200. Aperture would not even install on this machine, so I cannot compare the two.
Organization of images in Lightroom is so-so - better than iPhoto but not up to par with iView Media Pro. Where it reall shines is fine-tuning of colors, contrasts, noise and sharpening - simpl a pleasure to use.
Not going anywhere...
Aperture is a BIG app in Apple's plans - they just didn't get the core tech right yet. A new team will be assembled for 2.0 and it will get better with each release - there is no way Apple is going to leave the pro photo community having made such a positive step into it.
Remember people, FCP was horrible in its earliest incarnations, but is now awesome. The Aperture UI/workflow is way better than FCP's at an equivalent stage, and with some better tech under the hood it will be another killer app for them.
It's here to stay - this is a positive sign, not a negative one: simply a company prepared to make tough decisions to get their products right.
Aperture is a BIG app in Apple's plans - they just didn't get the core tech right yet. A new team will be assembled for 2.0 and it will get better with each release - there is no way Apple is going to leave the pro photo community having made such a positive step into it.
Remember people, FCP was horrible in its earliest incarnations, but is now awesome. The Aperture UI/workflow is way better than FCP's at an equivalent stage, and with some better tech under the hood it will be another killer app for them.
It's here to stay - this is a positive sign, not a negative one: simply a company prepared to make tough decisions to get their products right.
Since when did Apple stop giving an application a second version? I find it hard to believe that Apple would abandon the application. They may not be impressed with the team that developed it and are therefore re-locating future development to another team, but abandon it altogether... I doubt it very much.
I really hope they continue to develop it, although the $200.00 rebate is fishy, like the initial cushion for the fall.
*slaps Steve*
*slaps Steve*
Macrumors only post storys from other sites who have there own sources - Arn never post's storys on a hunch or because his best mates brothers sister said she was dating a guy who worked with a Apple chappy who said he heard that Aperture team was closing down ?skidooairman said:You're the cheecky buggers who post this crap!
Maybe the Aperture team will be joining a new team ? like Final Cut Studio is now one product maybe Aperture will be part of it's own box set - Apple Photo Studio maybe?
I'll add my voice to the chorus hoping this doesn't mean the end of the product... I like Aperture.