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bradhs

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When installing macOS High Sierra 10.13 you're given the option to upgrade APFS I assume. Can I skip this and do it after 10.13 successfully installs?
 
How long does the update take? Also, When installing macOS High Sierra 10.13 you're given the option to upgrade APFS I assume. Can I skip this and do it after 10.13 successfully installs?
 
How long does the update take? Also, When installing macOS High Sierra 10.13 you're given the option to upgrade APFS I assume. Can I skip this and do it after 10.13 successfully installs?
Im not being shown the APFS conversion option. Maybe because I have FileVault enabled, but then I don't see the option even for external install.
 
Im not being shown the APFS conversion option. Maybe because I have FileVault enabled, but then I don't see the option even for external install.
According to release notes you cannot enable FileVault after upgrading. They also state that if you want FileVault, then enable it before upgrading. Now that's interesting... I use FileVault so I guess it's safe to upgrade with FileVault enabled.
 
According to release notes you cannot enable FileVault after upgrading. They also state that if you want FileVault, then enable it before upgrading. Now that's interesting... I use FileVault so I guess it's safe to upgrade with FileVault enabled.

I mean I have FileVault enabled before install but I installed HS on an external empty drive and still no option for APFS.
 
I have no option for APFS anywhere to be found on my rMBP with Touchbar.
[doublepost=1496752062][/doublepost]Jesus, perhaps I need another cup of tea this morning. When installing the BETA seed/access tool I received macOS 10.12.6 BETA automatically through Mac App Store as macOS High Sierra was downloading.. So my machine automatically rebooted and here I thought it was High Sierra auto installing, but it was only 10.12.6 BETA2. No wonder why I have no option for APFS...
 
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I am also interested in finding out about existing HFS+ Time Machine backups and how they work in High Sierra with APFS,
 
I hope they keep APFS optional in the final release. I read nothing but horror stories from the brave people who installed the beta.

I also wonder if it makes sense to convert external drives as well to APFS ? Do they offer that option at all or can only the internal drive(s) be converted to APFS on the fly during install ?
 
I have no option for APFS anywhere to be found on my rMBP with Touchbar.
[doublepost=1496752062][/doublepost]Jesus, perhaps I need another cup of tea this morning. When installing the BETA seed/access tool I received macOS 10.12.6 BETA automatically through Mac App Store as macOS High Sierra was downloading.. So my machine automatically rebooted and here I thought it was High Sierra auto installing, but it was only 10.12.6 BETA2. No wonder why I have no option for APFS...
Thanks.....I was wondering the same thing and guess what? I have 10.12.6 too.....man now i have to install it again lol
 
so there has not actually been an answer to @bradhs ' question. You can convert an hfs volume to apfs even after install, but I think right now this is only possible via command line, via the tool apfs_hfs_convert. Have not tried it yet though.

Code:
zahpod:~ david$ apfs_hfs_convert
Usage: apfs_hfs_convert [-e] [-v] [-i] [-S <path>] [-n] [-F n] [-M <mount_path>] [-o <option>] [--no-warning] <device_path>
    -e    Estimate apfs metadata size.
    -v    Enable verbose output.
    -i    Convert case-insensitive HFS volumes to case-insensitive APFS volumes.
    -S <path>
          Print statistics and information about the converson to the given <path>.
    -n    Don't finalize conversion (dry run).  Volume remains HFS.
    -f    Force conversion if volume is dirty.
    -F n  Slice #n (0-based) should be fixed size.
    -M <mount_path>
          Use the given path to mount APFS during conversion.
    -o <nx_or_apfs_format_options>
          Format options passed through to nx_format and apfs_newfs.
    --no-warning
          Do not warn about APFS being pre-release technology, nor wait for user acknowledgement.
    --watchdog=<seconds>
          Conversion will abort after <seconds> seconds.  Default is 600 seconds for dry run, unlimited otherwise.
 
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I checked and you can do this through Disk Utility. It will be grayed-out/unavailable on your boot partition though, hence why booting into the Recovery OS or a secondary install of High Sierra is necessary.
Convert-to-APFS.png
 
… After I used recovery to update the main HD to APFS it would no longer boot. … something about "unable to bless", …

… converted it to APFS, but no longer boots (some bless error). …

In some cases, failure to bless may be negligible.

A converted volume that does not appear in Startup Manager might – eventually – appear and be bootable. https://framasphere.org/posts/3363481#065a41e03110013574452a0000053625 | discussion
 
im shocked some of you think its bad... i have converted to APFS and not only have there been no issues with my machine but the battery is running longer...
 
I have a Mac pro 2013, and on it I installed the Dev Beta. On the SSD I run macOS 10.13, and I did not select APFS when I upgraded, and I have a Bootcamp partion with Win10. If I boot into the Recovery partition, and I convert my macOS partition to APFS, will that affect my Bootcamp installation?
 
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