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Apogee One or the Apogee Duet?

robbysoul said:
I don't know how much better than the ONE the Duet sounds. But the Duet cost twice the price of the ONE and it's also less portable then the ONE :D I love my ONE ;)
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I was actually leaning towards the One myself if I was going the Apogee route. My A-B comparison was about 10 minutes through an iPod at a noisy Guitar Center - not exactly the best place to audition anything. But there was a difference between the two. The One does not sound bad by any stretch and I would have been happy with it.
 
I posted earlier in this thread about having some issues with hiss on the output of the Duet when running into Focal CMS-50 monitors. After troubleshooting with Focal and Apogee we figured out that in this particular combo running from the unbalanced outs of the Duet to the unbalanced inputs of the Focals created some gain staging issues and subsequent hiss. Switching to a TRS 1/4 inch to XLR balanced cable and using the balanced ins on the Focals got rid of the hiss completely. The combo now sounds clean and gorgeous.

I just wanted to follow up in case anyone else had similar issues.

Scott

PS- The customer service from both Focal and Apogee were absolutely excellent!
 
miscend said:
The Duet and the One have the same audio quality. Use the same pre-amps and AD/DA converters. So you'll get professional studio quality sound whichever one you pick.
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Duet can do 24/96, best One can do is 24/48

Unless the USB DAC's are asynchronous (One's are not), USB digital connection inherently introduces more jitter than firewire.

So, technically, the Duet should sound better.
 
one or duet for me

I have been recording hip hop music for awhile in a nice studio but am attempting to set up small set up at home I have a MACBOOK PRO 4gb memory. im gonna get most likely logic studio and I own a Rode NT-1A
I am getting ready to purchase the one or Duet. The one would be significantly cheaper and an easier investment but i am wondering if I will see significantly better sound quality with duet?? with my mic and simple set up would i be of large benefit investing the extra cash?
 
sk8theday said:
I am getting ready to purchase the one or Duet. The one would be significantly cheaper and an easier investment but i am wondering if I will see significantly better sound quality with duet?? with my mic and simple set up would i be of large benefit investing the extra cash?
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I don't think that sound quality is much different. ONE is single channel input and a single stereo output. It is nice and portable and sounds great. It also has a convenient and nice sounding built in mic.

Duet has two inputs at a time and headphone and control room outputs. It works better has the hub of a studio setup.

Both work well with Garage Band and Logic 9. Duet requires firewire so you need to make sure you Mac has that.
 
One VS Duet

I've been using my DUET for some time now and really love it. The sound quality is great and I love the dual inputs.
 
jhbpa said:
Duet can do 24/96, best One can do is 24/48

Unless the USB DAC's are asynchronous (One's are not), USB digital connection inherently introduces more jitter than firewire.

So, technically, the Duet should sound better.
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Yes I stand corrected. Apogee officially say they use similar quality but not the same components in the ONE.

Quoted from the blog above. Apogee regarding the sound quality:

"If you don't need stereo inputs, then ONE will be fine for you. It has the same sound quality as Duet. ONE is USB so it can not record at sample rates higher than 48 kHz and will have slightly more latency than the FireWire Duet, but sound quality is equal."
 
miscend said:
The Duet and the One have the same audio quality. Use the same pre-amps and AD/DA converters. So you'll get professional studio quality sound whichever one you pick.
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The Duet has more gain on the preamps, about 10 db if I recall correctly. This is due to it using firewire and not USB, like the ONE.
 
The One & Duet are NOT the same!!! Correct me if Im wrong but I remember that the Duet pre's have +10 to +75 dB of gain, as where the One has +10 to 63 dB. My Apogee One (useing Logic) sounded better and has noticeable less latency than my Digi 002 (& PT 8.0) so I sold the 002...very hard for me because I was a PT guy all the way (I still like things about it over Logic 9!) but the higher clarity & quality of my recordings sold me on it. The One is very cool the built in mic impressive, but I'll have to admit my friend's Duet sounds better. Another thing, I was packing up one time for a mobile recording and dropped my One on the (tile) floor and it cracked in half! (open at the seam) I kinda freaked & thought "thats it...Im sure its fried", but I snapped it back together tested it and it still worked perfectly....Shew...!
The One is a great bang for the buck - with the built in mic you can get recording right away with out having to buy a $100 microphone, super quality for those of us on a budget.
If I could do it again, I would have got the Duet because it suits my needs better but the One has got no complaints at all, in fact quite the opposite I hear more compliments than anything and the One has already paid for itself from local guys doing demo & voice over stuff for minimal contributions (20 bucks here & there). Apogee Rocks!
 
Sorry to hijack this thread, but I've just purchased a One and although I'm enjoying using it I do have a few small gripes -

I can't understand why they'd mandate the use of their 'Maestro' software to change between inputs.... surely there's a way I can select which input I want to use from right there in my DAW without having to load up this other program every time?

Also, whats the deal with the non-standard USB connector.... the only advantage I can see here is to Apogee, that they make more money in replacement cable sales when users invariably lose theirs. Would it have been so crazy to have just used a normal mini-USB connector??!

Another gripe (although I'm sure there's more likely to be a good, technical reason why this isn't possible) is that for a unit with three separate inputs, it'd be nice to be able to record from all three at once, or at least two.....


Other than that, I'm sold. It's about a gazillion times more expensive than I'd like it to be but it's small, extremely portable, very easy to use and sounds fantastic.
 
Latency latency latency

:mad:thank you very much.But if there is latency I don't mind what quality are the converters.Thank you apogee I have duet and am not using it at all as it is not possible to do software monitoring through it.Not a chance to work professionally.
 
yeseter said:
:mad:thank you very much.But if there is latency I don't mind what quality are the converters.Thank you apogee I have duet and am not using it at all as it is not possible to do software monitoring through it.Not a chance to work professionally.
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Huh? - the Duet has an internal mixer specifically to reduce latency while monitoring input signals. Read pages 18-21 of the manual.

I have no idea what you are referring to.
 
question about the One

You can not simultaneously run the built in Mic and the line-in from a guitar with the One, right? The thing I'd hate to give up with the One is being able to do scratch tracks consisting of electric guitar and vocal in two simultaneous channels. Of course you can play acoustic and sing while using the built-in mic, but that's not always good for me.

If the Duet had a built-in Mic, the choice would be simple for me.
 
Jolly Jimmy said:
Same here, the update the support guy sent me didn't work. I found a workaround to get the popups back without rebooting though. You need to quit and relaunch ONEPopup. I made an automator action app to accomplish this if you are interested. May I ask what version of OS X you are running?
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Great little app, thanks!
 
Apogee support sent me this update a while ago for those still having pop-up problems with the ONE.
 

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Apogee support sent me this update a while ago for those still having pop-up problems with the ONE.
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When you guys talk about 'pop-ups', are you talking about the little volume overlays that come up??

Also, if any ONE users here know anything about programming, how easy/hard would it be to write your own version of the 'Maestro' application, a tiny app that just sits in your taskbar and when clicked brings you a menu allowing you to quickly change which input you're using? If the input can be changed within GarageBand without using the Maestro program, surely it must be possible? Would save a few seconds each time you wanted to change I/O!
 
peanutismint said:
When you guys talk about 'pop-ups', are you talking about the little volume overlays that come up??
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Yes, that's right.

peanutismint said:
Also, if any ONE users here know anything about programming, how easy/hard would it be to write your own version of the 'Maestro' application, a tiny app that just sits in your taskbar and when clicked brings you a menu allowing you to quickly change which input you're using? If the input can be changed within GarageBand without using the Maestro program, surely it must be possible? Would save a few seconds each time you wanted to change I/O!
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Try this little applescript I just wrote.
 

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Jolly Jimmy said:
Try this little applescript I just wrote.
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That is AMAZING :eek: Are you some kind of magician?!!

Thanks so much, it only took a second to open Maestro program each time, but those seconds add up.... ;)

If it's not too much to ask...you've already done so much....!!!!......I don't suppose you might know how I could use this in conjunction with my DAW, do you? For instance, I have some scripts that i use with iTunes but rather than having the little 'Scripts' icon in the taskbar all the time, I've put the iTunes scripts in a certain folder (can't remember where now) that means the script icon is only visible when I have iTunes selected..... Would it be possible to achieve this so that it's included in the menus of my DAW?? (Reaper)
 
I don't think that's possible unfortunately. My suggestion would be that you use spotlight to open it quickly.
 
Ah cool, that's a good idea. Thanks again! I wonder if there's anywhere else you could post that script - I think it'd be invaluable to ONE users!! :)
 
Question

Hey guys! I'm also new to this. I bought the Apogee ONE and I was wondering if I can connect another preamp to the ONE, let's say a Presonus Tubepre that a friend of mine recommended, or which preamp would you guys recommend me that I could connect to the Apogee.

Thanks a lot in advance for your advice! :D
 
rodzai said:
Hey guys! I'm also new to this. I bought the Apogee ONE and I was wondering if I can connect another preamp to the ONE, let's say a Presonus Tubepre that a friend of mine recommended, or which preamp would you guys recommend me that I could connect to the Apogee.

Thanks a lot in advance for your advice! :D
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The Apogee ONE's pre is going to be much better than the Presonus Tubepre. (if you mean can you want to connect an ADDITIONAL pre, as in using the ONE's pre and another pre at the same time, this is not possible as the ONE is only a 1 input interface.)
 
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