App to play videos on iPad

Discussion in 'iPad Tips, Help and Troubleshooting' started by barredfreak, Nov 4, 2012.

  1. barredfreak macrumors 6502

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    Hello. I am looking for an iPad app which will allow me to transfer movies/TV shows from my computer to my iPad, without any conversion if the video isn't an .mp4 file.

    I've tried several, but they all either have video/audio syncing issues or are unable to play .mkv files without an additional codec, which costs a pretty hefty amount.

    Basically, what I'm looking for is an app that will allow me to play all types of videos on my iPad which has perfect playback and has no issues whatsoever. Is anyone able to shed some light on this? I appreciate it. Thank you.
     
  2. wrkactjob macrumors 65816

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    Buzz Player, plays everything no conversion necessary just drag and drop.
     
  3. masc macrumors newbie

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    CineXPlayer
    Just copy the files via iTunes, and they play fine without conversion.
     
  4. blair554 macrumors newbie

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    Just download CineXPlayer from App Store. It can play almost all foramts of videos on iPad, iPhone and iPod.
     
  5. crazydawg807 macrumors newbie

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    I use vlc player, works great. I could be wrong, but I think it will play most video formats
     
  6. Menneisyys2 macrumors 603

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    Don't use VLC player, it's one of the slowest app on iOS - both the old (and removed) AppStore and the Cydia version. Use e.g. It's Playing or GoodPlayer.

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    You WILL want to read my review of the current version of the app at http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=16180017

    Pay particular attention to the word "dealbreaker" ;-) Yes, currently, I don't recommend CineXPlayer. Hope the new, fixed version is soon released.

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    BUZZ Player is great if you know what its strengths and weaknesses are and accordingly use / avoid using the players. For some formats (e.g., MKV's with DTS audio tracks - or anything with AC-3), there are much better players.

    Let me present you my quick review of the latest version (sorry, need to paste it here as I don't want to promote my "home" blog - hence the lack of an external link). Note that, after publishing the article, AC-3 support was entirely removed from the player, rendering it much less usable. Also note that, in the meantime, the price has been increased to $5.

    Re-released multimedia player "BUZZ Player" series 4 - a ripoff?

    When I first noticed the old “BUZZ Player (HD)”, a pretty capable multimedia player for iOS, being missing from the AppStore and the new “BUZZ Player (HD).” (notice the full stop at the end!) having been introduced in AppStore for $1 (iPhone version) / $2 (iPad (HD) version; link), I immediately thought to myself “well, another rip-off – a developer removes its app from the AppStore, only to reintroduce it using an only slightly different name to force its existing customers to pay for his app again”. (Needless to say, auto-updates of the old version don't update to the new version either.)

    Then, I've read their statement on the change HERE and calmed down: it seems it wasn't pure greed that made them remove the old version and reissue the updated app as a completely different entity - but some legal issue. And, after all, $2 isn't much – a month ago, I've ended up paying a lot more (some $40 with the very high European taxes) for two licenses for the new, just-released (and excellent – will definitely dedicate an entire article to it some time!) iExplorer 3, not much (only some nine months) after I've shelled out even more money for a five-pack license of the now-discontinued and non-Mountain Lion-compliant, and, therefore, for me, useless Phone Disk, my previous favorite of accessing the file system of my iDevices.

    (For that matter, they developers could have still arranged a “mail us your iTunes GoodPlayer receipt for a PowerPlayer promo code” action, as is done by the GoodPlayer folks with the release of PowerPlayer. They are handing out PowerPlayer promo codes for their existing GoodPlayer customers in THIS thread. Now, enough of the rant – after all, $2 isn't much money.)
    Note that the current $1/$2 are reduced price; the developer stated it'll rise back to the original price ($5 for the HD version).
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    (The directory list view of the app. This example shows both stills I've taken in Pisa, Italy and videos (the Finnish movies Lupaus and Iron Sky at the bottom) and also the context menu I've brought up by tap-and-holding a list item. As usual, click the image for the much larger, original version.)

    So, what has changed in the new version? Did they fix the biggest bugs (half-baked AirPlay and MKV with DTS support)? Did they put in better codecs?

    Well, as it has turned out, in addition to adding some tweaks (they, now, utilize GPU hardware color conversion in iOS5+), they have “only” added a JPG image viewer and slideshow support. The image viewer is a far cry away from decent ones like Photo Manager Pro. However, compared to the most usually non-existing or, at at all existing, abysmal stills support of other, generic multimedia players, it isn't that bad.

    It can zoom into images, play a slideshow (with settable delay but without any transition effects) and export its files into the Camera Roll – but that's all. There's no advanced stuff like EXIF viewer, let alone GPS coordinate-related functionality. There are absolutely no editing features, not even basic ones (crop, rotate) like in Photo Manager Pro.
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    (This is the Settings dialog for the new stills viewer)

    Nevertheless, as has been pointed out, of all iOS multimedia players, very few support displaying images at all. The ones that do are, most of the time, on the same (or even lower) level of features. Just some examples:

    Falcon Player and Downloader Pro for iPad, while can zoom, displays images with XGA resolution; while it can zoom in a bit, the images, then, become really pixelizated. (BUZZ Player renders them at full resolution) And, it has absolutely no slideshow capabilities.

    Slideshows aren't supported by VM Player HD either. PlugPlayer can display images, but only those in the Camera Roll – not in its own, private directories (to save a lot of storage).

    8player, while supporting both local images, zooming and slideshows, only supports image viewing via uPnP, no from local storage. The „Pictures” tab won't list local JPG files transferred via iTunes File Sharing.

    AcePlayer and HD Player Pro have absolutely no support for even zooming or slideshows. The latter, in addition, has a very weak JPEG decoder.

    And, the most recommended players (AVPlayer(HD), Gplayer, Oplayer, Azul Media Player - Video player for your iPad By Gplex, GoodPlayer, It's Playing by Addition Lda, RushPlayer(+) don't support JPG files at all. Of the most recommended players, it's only XBMC that has decent JPG support – but, of course, it's jailbreak-only and doesn't support the Retina screen of the iPad 3. (Should be interested in the full breakdown of each and every iOS multimedia player's still rendering support, check out the “<b>Still (JPG) image handling</b>” group in the work-in-progress chart of my forthcoming Multimedia bible (LibreOffice Calc format!). Again, it's a work-in-progress chart and can be really messed up elsewhere. Nevertheless, the JPG-specific info is already there.)

    Knowing this, it's indeed admirable BUZZ Player has at least basic image rendering / zooming / slideshowing capabilities. On top of which, it has quite good support for common image formats (unfortunately, not for camera RAW images): jpg, jpeg, jpe, jp2, bmp, png, gif, tiff, tif, cbz, ico, pict, tga. Also, it supports large images, up to 10000 pixels x 10000 pixels – this is pretty unique, particularly with a player mostly meant for video playback.
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    (This is what the stills viewer interface looks like. As you can see, it's really simple.)

    Now, let's turn to the still-existing bugs and problems of the player. I did hope the developer would fix them. Unfortunately, that didn't happen – at least not as yet.

    The still-existing bugs & problems

    a.) Still no support for MKV's with DTS audio tracks

    b.) Still no support for non-mirrored AirPlay playback for software decoded videos. Anything software-decoded can only be displayed using the mirrored mode of AirPlay (after you explicitly enable mirroring on top of connecting to the AirPlay target), which means there won't even be a semi-16:9, somewhat wider display, unlike with AVPlayerHD or HD Player Pro.

    When connected to an Apple TV (or another AirPlay receiver) without mirroring, only content played back in hardware is displayed. (Then, it's the hardware player component that senses the TV being connected and not Buzz Player., which is completely unaware of the TV being present.) This also involves hardware-decoded MKV files. Of course, the well-known problem of complete playback restart upon switching to a new, decoded MKV chunk is still present (for example, give a try to the Kung Fu Hustle intro MKV test video – it'll drop you out back to the main menu of the ATV at 0:14 before the end of the file), rendering MKV playback completely useless on a large screen over AirPlay.

    Wired TV connections work as expected (the entire screen is used; both HW- and SW-based decoding work flawlessly, including MKV playback – something where HD Player Pro fails at), including selecting the output resolution.


    Verdict


    The current $1/$2 intro price is indeed pretty friendly. If you haven't purchased the previous version of the app, it's a good buy. However, if you did and you don't need stills rendering at all (because you use another app for it), it's questionable whether it's worth the price. It surely is if and only if the developer keeps releasing updates and bugfixes, I'd say. However, it's still not known what will happen to the app, bugfixing- & updating-wise.
     
  7. richardcanvey macrumors newbie

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    Problems exporting ipad2 video FROM ipad to PC

    my ipad2 camera video files (.mov) used to play fine on both my ipad and pc when exported or emailed off it to my pc/laptop. The older files still do but those since IOS5 and IOS6 upgrades (sept/oct time) now only play audio with a blank screen on anything other than another ipad/ipod! Any ideas? Quicktime player is the pro version and up to date? Any ideas? Help/tips would be appreciated!
     
  8. Abby21 macrumors member

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    I think Air video works on this very well.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z68nlPZKJ5c
     
  9. TJ61 macrumors 6502a

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    Over the weekend, I purchased both "It's Playing" and "PowerPlayer" (from the makers of GoodPlayer) to play some home movie videos that the iOS videoplayer has been choking on.

    I bought PowerPlayer first, because it claimed to play VOB files directly. It doesn't play mine at all.

    I tried to play mp4's that I made from the VOB files using Windows Movie Maker (most recent version) on both PowerPlayer and It's Playing, and while I could get them to play at first, if I tried to advance into the video with the scrubber, bad things happen.

    Bottom line, I wasn't impressed with either.

    Regards,
    Tom
     
  10. Menneisyys2 macrumors 603

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    Strange you did have problems with standard-res MP4 videos. (Do your MP4 files have .h264 video in them? That is, isn't it some kind of a non-hardware-playable format?)

    In It's Playing, I've never had any problems with scrubbing SD MP4 videos converted by Handbrake. (I watch mostly these after converting them from SD DVB broadcast recordings).

    Can you make one of those MP4 files available for testing that you had major problems with? I surely would like to give it a try.

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    Use VLC for playback on the PC, it'll surely play them. Don't use anything else - under Windows, a LOT can go wrong because of the different codec packs etc.
     
  11. TJ61 macrumors 6502a

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    I don't have the files in front of me right now, but 99% sure they're encoded to h.264 mp4 by Windows Movie Maker. I'm assuming WMM uses its own codecs, but I don't know which ones. (I'd love to get a recommendation for a good, hopefully free, codec pack.)

    The input files to WMM are VOB files from a DVD I recently made of home movies transferred from Hi-8 tapes. I've successfully made short (3min) mp4 clips from these VOBs that play in the iOS video player. But the larger files (2hr, 3 GB) do not play at all on the iOS video player, and though they begin to play in It's Playing I can't navigate into the video with the scrubber. What happens is the picture advances to the new position, then plays at about half speed, but the audio continues from where it was a the start of the video.

    I have no problem with my "usual" video content, which is either commercial DVDs (ripped with FairUse, encoded to mp4 with HandBrake on Windows7), or mpeg2 from TiVo (unencrypted, then encoded to mp4 with HandBrake); these files play just fine on iOS video player.

    At this point, I'm a little suspicious of WMM, especially not knowing anything about the codecs they use. But I was really hoping PowerPlayer would be true to its promise of playing the original VOB files. Not sure why that doesn't work.

    I REALLY appreciate your offer to take a look at one of these files, but given that it's 3 GB (and I think the file size may be part of the problem), I'll plan to hold off on that.

    Regards,
    Tom
     
  12. Menneisyys2 macrumors 603

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    Use HandBrake instead. It's the fastest, most compatible etc. and can also convert DVD VOB's.


    You could cut out a sufficiently short part of it (with a lossless MP4 editor - if you have a friend with a Mac, I can point you to some Mac-based, free tools doing this) that also exhibits this problem. I'd as a video format buff really like to see such problematic files.
     
  13. TJ61 macrumors 6502a

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    I'm pretty sure I tried that and ran into some trouble -- but I've been trying a lot of things lately so memory is fuzzy. I'll have to try it again.

    Any idea why PowerPlayer doesn't play VOBs? Has anyone confirmed that it does? This was/is my number one goal as it's the most straight-forward approach (play my files as-is). Of course, I'm assuming a VOB is a VOB, and I know just enough about all this to realize that's probably not true.

    Regards,
    Tom
     
  14. Menneisyys2 macrumors 603

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    They may have just copied their GoodPlayer description and (by mistake) left it there? Dunno.

    GoodPlayer is surely VOB-capable. I haven't tested PowerPlayer in this respect; will report back.
     

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