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KiwiAdventure

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Do you have a TV that supports dolby vision?
I have a 65" Plasma TV and not sure I need 4k as the picture is great. I would need a 100" TV to make it worth while maybe.
It's a shame they stopped producing Plasma TV's. Unless you stream movies you will not get 4k or dolby. Apple TV remote is wifi which is really handy.
 
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Unless you have a tv that can show the resolution, why buy the 4k? Is the downscaled 1080 output better than a non 4k Apple TV ?
 
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Unless you have a tv that can show the resolution, why buy the 4k? Is the downscaled 1080 output better than a non 4k Apple TV ?
It probably isn’t even downscaling 4K because it’s unlikely his TV can accept the 4K signal. The ATV is likely outputting 1080p. One reason to buy the 4K version though is for when he does eventually upgrade he’ll be ready to go.
 

KiwiAdventure

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Unless you have a tv that can show the resolution, why buy the 4k? Is the downscaled 1080 output better than a non 4k Apple TV ?

Why not buy the new Apple TV as it only costs the price of a good dinner for 2.

The wifi remote is worth the money and it downloads a lot faster. I have on sold my old Apple TV for $75.00 before the market gets flooded with out of date TV units.
 

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Liking the reports that it is good, curious as to why with no 4k TV is all. Not really paid attention to the future proofing side so did not pick up on it.

As it happens, just cancelled my 2-3 three week predicted delivery and got my in store pickup confirmation for today. So I can stop looking at others comments and get my own to test :)
 
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Bit annoyed. Seems it won't stream 4K movies from iTunes but will from Netflix.

I know my internet speed is poor at around 12Mb but why can it just buffer for as long as it needs to give me 4K?


Another reason why being left out of fibre in my area (in the middle of town!) is ridiculous.
 

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Bit annoyed. Seems it won't stream 4K movies from iTunes but will from Netflix.

I know my internet speed is poor at around 12Mb but why can it just buffer for as long as it needs to give me 4K?


Another reason why being left out of fibre in my area (in the middle of town!) is ridiculous.

Apart from video quality is there any visual cue that you are watching 4K or HD? Example YouTube has a little 4K or HD logo on my smart TV on each video while playing.
 

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Bit annoyed. Seems it won't stream 4K movies from iTunes but will from Netflix.

I know my internet speed is poor at around 12Mb but why can it just buffer for as long as it needs to give me 4K?


Another reason why being left out of fibre in my area (in the middle of town!) is ridiculous.

Have a look in settings under Apps then you should be able to find under one of the sections an option to turn off quick play.
 

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Just received mine.
 

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Pug72

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Well the tv constantly indicates a 2160p HDR image is showing, that's set in stone by the video settings you choose on the AppleTV.
When I watch a 4K Movie I purposely bought yesterday in preparation, the TV says it's the above but pull down the info on the AppleTV and it says HD and you can tell it's not 4K.

In the video settings, if I 'check the cable' it shows everything is fine but adds a message telling me my internet speed is below the needed 15Mb for 4K playback of movies.


I was upgrading my AppleTV to hopefully go digital with future film purchases, will probably return it now.
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Have a look in settings under Apps then you should be able to find under one of the sections an option to turn off quick play.

Thanks, just tried this but no joy.
 

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Well the tv constantly indicates a 2160p HDR image is showing, that's set in stone by the video settings you choose on the AppleTV.
When I watch a 4K Movie I purposely bought yesterday in preparation, the TV says it's the above but pull down the info on the AppleTV and it says HD and you can tell it's not 4K.

In the video settings, if I 'check the cable' it shows everything is fine but adds a message telling me my internet speed is below the needed 15Mb for 4K playback of movies.


I was upgrading my AppleTV to hopefully go digital with future film purchases, will probably return it now.
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Thanks, just tried this but no joy.

Nothing under Apps -> iTunes Films and TV Programs as there should be an option to turn off Quick Play?
 

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Well the tv constantly indicates a 2160p HDR image is showing, that's set in stone by the video settings you choose on the AppleTV.
When I watch a 4K Movie I purposely bought yesterday in preparation, the TV says it's the above but pull down the info on the AppleTV and it says HD and you can tell it's not 4K.

In the video settings, if I 'check the cable' it shows everything is fine but adds a message telling me my internet speed is below the needed 15Mb for 4K playback of movies.


I was upgrading my AppleTV to hopefully go digital with future film purchases, will probably return it now.
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Thanks, just tried this but no joy.
Life lesson, research product requirements before purchase saves frustration later. Between not having the proper HDMI cable and too slow DSL, I imagine lots of frustration spoiling the party, and of course some will blame Apple. ;)
 
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Indeed, but......everything is spot on apart from the streaming. As far as I could tell it would be the same as Netflix and Amazon 4K HDR/DV content, just takes about 20 seconds to buffer and get 2160p.

That fact it just won't and resorts to 1080p is a bit poor.

Also, the upscaler isn't as good as the tv.
Put the previous AppleTV box back and everything looks better. The 4K box adds too much image sharpening, most noticeable on the Netflix icon on the Home Screen.


Anyway, nothing ventured, nothing gained. It's all packed up and return requested.
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Nothing under Apps -> iTunes Films and TV Programs as there should be an option to turn off Quick Play?

Yep, turning Quick Play off made no difference.
 

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Well the tv constantly indicates a 2160p HDR image is showing, that's set in stone by the video settings you choose on the AppleTV.
When I watch a 4K Movie I purposely bought yesterday in preparation, the TV says it's the above but pull down the info on the AppleTV and it says HD and you can tell it's not 4K.

In the video settings, if I 'check the cable' it shows everything is fine but adds a message telling me my internet speed is below the needed 15Mb for 4K playback of movies.


I was upgrading my AppleTV to hopefully go digital with future film purchases, will probably return it now.
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Thanks, just tried this but no joy.

Ugh, this is what I am worried about. The fact that it will always think its in HDR mode. My TV has settings for normal 4K/HD viewing and HDR viewing and it fluctuates between the two depending on the signal it recieves. If the ATV4K is only outputting an HDR signal, its going to keep the HDR settings on for all times. HDR requires the back light to be maxed out and some other settings changes, this is great for HDR but not for regular 4K or HD viewing....at all.

Ill give it a try tonight but if this is the case, unfortunately it will have to go back. I have the current ATV4 which is fine, my TV's smart apps allow the TV to decide which viewing mode it needs to be in. Which hopefully with an update, the ATV4K will too.
 

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I don't know about you guys but I just check.. and Revenant 4K with extra only cost $9.99. :O

I'm soooo in!
 

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Interesting. It was default to 4:2:0, changed to 4:2:2, already at 60hz but 4k previews are running fine.
Still messing with the formats but not sure I would trust this to upscale vs my TV doing the upscaling so still messing with that.
Battleship seems poor quality no matter what I do vs Dead pool 4k very crisp in native 4k. Need more material for checking.
 

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A lot of films aren't coming up as 4K, John Wick 2 for example, seems a small selection of 4K.

On the last count I did there was 73 films available, compare that to the US who have 137 available.
For some reason the US have a load of films in 4K that are still only 1080p in the UK which I’ve been wondering if there’s licensing issues at play or even possibly a different distributor involved between countries.
 

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On the last count I did there was 73 films available, compare that to the US who have 137 available.
For some reason the US have a load of films in 4K that are still only 1080p in the UK which I’ve been wondering if there’s licensing issues at play or even possibly a different distributor involved between countries.

Ah, should have known, well that's a shame as usual.
 
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