Lol , when all else fails , blame flash. Problem is the issue still happens without flash installed .
I've been a Mac user all my life and did all those obvious things. Including an Erase & Install of OS X when v10.11.5 was released. I have no third party web plugins installed and the most advanced piece of software that exists on my MacBook Pro, next to OS X, is Microsoft Office 2016 (legit copy). Hell, I actually brought it in at the Amsterdam Apple Store thinking it was a hardware issue. They needlessly pulled it open and couldn't find anything wrong.Reset PRAM & SMC. Run volume verification in Disk Utility. Shut down at least every couple of days, or whenever you're not using the computer, with the option 'reopen windows when logging back in' disabled (unticked).
Could you confirm if this makes a positive difference?
This in conjuncture with Safari's Develop menu "open page with" option is also really handy.My tip is to keep Chrome installed, and use it for the few things that still require Flash. Chrome has flash built in, AND keeps it updated automatically (unlike installing Flash directly where you have to update it yourself).
If you MUST use flash, using Chrome (or Safari with Chrome just for Flash sites) is the way to go. I'm not a big fan of Chrome otherwise but keep it in my arsenal for this reason.
Why doesnt anyone point that this "official advice(?)" is coming after months?
My 15 inch MBR literally died because of this issue. Not crashed, not froze, died. AppleCare couldnt solve the problem because apparently the SSD died in a very weird way.
So it's clearly not about updating the OS or flash, even if it is related to the OS and/or flash.
I've been a Mac user all my life and did all those obvious things. Including an Erase & Install of OS X when v10.11.5 was released. I have no third party web plugins installed and the most advanced piece of software that exists on my MacBook Pro, next to OS X, is Microsoft Office 2016 (legit copy). Hell, I actually brought it in at the Amsterdam Apple Store thinking it was a hardware issue. They needlessly pulled it open and couldn't find anything wrong.
So there you go.
Just had my 15" non-retina MBP hard crash on me today, no Safari involved, just system apps... Needed to cut the power. I'm running the latest OSX update available.
Unlikely Apple will "investigate" the underlying issue here, since I'm running an "obsolete" machine... seems to be getting worse with every major OS release. I used to look down on Windows people five years ago, but I think now it's actually the other way around..
They actually acknowledged that it is SW related but couldnt tell more. They wanted to replace but its out of guarantee and I dont wanna pay for it and started to use my other MBR.
I've been using that MBR since the day it was launched, installed thousands of apps, games, development, db tools, design tools, nothing happened until now. Then I saw this thread and thought it matches what I've been through.
Tht thing is that a few days ago I took it, although I was told it was dead, and tried to install lion (which was its OS at the time I bought it. It downloaded and installed and it was perfect, no issues whatsoever. Then I couldnt stop there and wanted to update it to the latest OS and it all started again, even before I start to install any app kr extension, not even flash. It was a freshly installed OS.
So Its 1000 % related to the OS, only to the OS.
Well said. There are still companies out there that utilise their databases from a DOS-based system, let alone 'upgrading' to Windows XP.
If you're editing the odd Word document and watching a YouTube video every now and then, I'm sure you can uninstall Flash, pat yourself on the back for getting rid of a resource-hog application, and laugh at everybody else who still uses it.
The real world isn't that simple, though.
When everybody keeps accepting this as a fact, in 10 years we are still discussing this issue without getting anywhere.
When everybody keeps accepting this as a fact, in 10 years we are still discussing this issue without getting anywhere.
Do you even know how this damn OS works? Flash is already built-in, there's no question I'm manually installing a new package for Flash.LOL.
It is genuinely funny to read Apple forums sometimes and see the Apple-slanted perspective some people have on the real world.
Flash is still widely used by a lot of people, and even a lot of older corporate Applications. You would have no idea.
Reset PRAM & SMC. Run volume verification in Disk Utility. Shut down at least every couple of days, or whenever you're not using the computer, with the option 'reopen windows when logging back in' disabled (unticked).
Could you confirm if this makes a positive difference?
Do you even know how this damn OS works? Flash is already built-in, there's no question I'm manually installing a new package for Flash.
LOL.
It is genuinely funny to read Apple forums sometimes and see the Apple-slanted perspective some people have on the real world.
Flash is still widely used by a lot of people, and even a lot of older corporate Applications. You would have no idea.