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My gateway drug was the orchestral works of George Gershwin. That led to Ravel, which led to Debussy. There's someone in this thread going by "Mackie Messer," which is German for "Mack the Knife," the song from Kurt Weill's "Threepenny Opera," which you should check out (the "Donmar Warehouse" production with Tom Hollander if you're into punk, the one with Lotte Lenya if not so much; the Broadway version from the 1950s is a G-rated whitewash, even if it does have a pre-Gomez John Astin singing the wedding song). Weill is in the unusual position of having a song covered by The Doors ("Alabama Song"). Erik Satie has a lot of lovely introspective works for solo piano, one of them transcribed for rock band (!) by Blood, Sweat, and Tears.

Look for Bernstein's "Candide," either the original cast album from 1955 or the late studio recording with the late Jerry Hadley. It was a little too serious for Broadway and a little too comic for anywhere else, and the only thing everyone agrees it got right was Bernstein's music. The overture's my second-favorite Bernstein work.

I should also mention that there is a fantastic recording of the tragic and autobiographical eighth quartet of Dmitri Shostakovich by the Kronos Quartet, which I first heard when I was about thirty and which sealed my fate as a Shostakovich addict.
Much appreciated suggestions.
 
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Thanks. 👍

Real nice of you to add 2 extra albums. 😀 I added them all to my library. This is pre-classical I suppose?
The codex they used is from 900AD. My guess is that we’re talking about 900-1300AD depending on the intonations and such.
 
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I think browse section is mostly for new music or locally trending music rather than music of a specific genre (although given popularity of other genres it’s pretty much impossible for classical pieces to appear there). Apple Music has commonly listened-to genres in the listen now tab. For example, it has generated a specific section just for curated classical on mine. The try special audio tracks are also classical for me.

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wait, classical in spatial audio?!!?

first thing after work today is to listen to Ride of the Valkyries (Apocalypse Now movie 1st I heard anything classical).
 
I’ll steal Allen’s joke. “I can’t listen to this stuff. Each time I listen to Wagner I feel compelled to invade Poland.”
The purist in me insists on noting that Allen in turn stole that joke from Thomas Pynchon's "Gravity's Rainbow."

I don't know who Pynchon stole it from.
 
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Ah, I had no idea! Thanks for pointing it out!
There are a couple of minor characters who start arguing about who's better, Beethoven or Rossini -- and hundreds of pages later, they're still at it. It's the Rossini guy who makes the joke about Beethoven (not Wagner) making you want to go invade Poland.
 
I really enjoy some rock, folk, blues and jazz but have had some difficulty getting into classical. So many classical styles (probably not the correct word to use) to choose from. Any suggestions from classical fans who can recall their early exploration days would be welcome.
From my own experience :
When I used to listen to music I had little to no interest in lyrics. I could really like a song but when I later on read the lyrics I didn’t think much of them or at worst didn’t like them at all. Lyrics were just part of the music.
Then I started listening to classical music (the “hits” first), and I tried to understand what it was all about.
So lyrics started to play a bigger role especially when listening to and later on going to opera. After a few years of preparing every opera (examining the lyrics to hook the notes to meaning) I was struggling with a Russian opera and letting it all go, I discovered that not preparing anything and just listening and letting the notes, instruments (including voices) work on their own, I started feeling in stead of understanding music.
So maybe for me I needed the stages I went through for me to truly enjoy music as I do now. I can now enjoy all genres of music of all cultures without prejudice or trying to understand it.

So you might have to take another route but I hope you achieve the music walhalla I am in:)
 
From my own experience :
When I used to listen to music I had little to no interest in lyrics. I could really like a song but when I later on read the lyrics I didn’t think much of them or at worst didn’t like them at all. Lyrics were just part of the music.
Then I started listening to classical music (the “hits” first), and I tried to understand what it was all about.
So lyrics started to play a bigger role especially when listening to and later on going to opera. After a few years of preparing every opera (examining the lyrics to hook the notes to meaning) I was struggling with a Russian opera and letting it all go, I discovered that not preparing anything and just listening and letting the notes, instruments (including voices) work on their own, I started feeling in stead of understanding music.
So maybe for me I needed the stages I went through for me to truly enjoy music as I do now. I can now enjoy all genres of music of all cultures without prejudice or trying to understand it.

So you might have to take another route but I hope you achieve the music walhalla I am in:)
Thank you sharing your experience. I have started the journey :cool:
 
My Dad was really into classical (and Jazz) music. But it never really connected with me until...

My Road to Damascus experience with classical happened whilst watching the 2008 remake of The Day the Earth Stood Still. There's a scene in which Bach's Goldberg Variations is playing in the background. I was gobsmacked by its beauty.

From there I discovered Bach's Partitas for keyboard - again utterly beautiful.

So, from a purely personal perspective I'd recommend listening to Bach's Goldberg variations - either the 1981 Glenn Gould recording or the later Angela Hewitt recording.

I'd also echo the earlier recommendation for Weill's The Threepenny Opera - but my favourite is the relatively recent Ute Lemper recording over the Lotte Lenya - which may be heretical :)
 
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My Road to Damascus experience with classical happened whilst watching the 2008 remake of The Day the Earth Stood Still. There's a scene in which Bach's Goldberg Variations is playing in the background. I was gobsmacked by its beauty.
I picked up Satie from a movie called "My Dinner with Andre." Although I *think* there may have been some Satie at the end of "Being There."

Incidentally, if you want a really unusual example from the movies, "Frost/Nixon" includes Sonata No.1 from a composer named Richard M. Nixon.
 
My Dad was really into classical (and Jazz) music. But it never really connected with me until...

My Road to Damascus experience with classical happened whilst watching the 2008 remake of The Day the Earth Stood Still. There's a scene in which Bach's Goldberg Variations is playing in the background. I was gobsmacked by its beauty.

From there I discovered Bach's Partitas for keyboard - again utterly beautiful.

So, from a purely personal perspective I'd recommend listening to Bach's Goldberg variations - either the 1981 Glenn Gould recording or the later Angela Hewitt recording.

I'd also echo the earlier recommendation for Weill's The Threepenny Opera - but my favourite is the relatively recent Ute Lemper recording over the Lotte Lenya - which may be heretical :)
The 1981 Glenn Gould recording of the Goldberg Variations was literally the first classical CD I ever bought, back when so few CDs were available yet that CBS had a poster for record stores showing all the CDs they made, all several dozen of them -- cover art and all.

That was when there *were* record stores.
 
Apple Music is lame in the way of features. It is well beyond time to be able to list and find the full name, conductor, orchestra, for a piece (known as song in Apple Music) of music. What can I say except, "It is about time."
 
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Has anyone heard any updates on this? The only things I can say for sure is that Primephonic is dead and searching for classical music on the Music app still sucks as much as it always has.
 
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Nope. I hoped for some news within the first half of the year.

June is almost over and still nothing. I guess Apple will either wait a somehow music related event (AirPods or similar device) to announce the new classical app or simply announce a press release.
 
Still waiting. I'm assuming iOS16 launch at the earliest given the lack of announcements so far this year.
 
I am all for this if there are two separate libraries, I have a lot of popular music and a lot of classical. I find it a pain to scroll through all the classical to find a popular song or artist and visa versa.
 
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I am all for this if there are two separate libraries, I have a lot of popular music and a lot of classical. I find it a pain to scroll through all the classical to find a popular song or artist and visa versa.
Agree! I don't think apple will imbed the metadata system from primephonic into the music app. But they really need to improve it...
 
I learned of Satie back in 1969 with the "Variations on a Theme by Erik Satie (First and Second Movements)" on the first Blood Sweat and Tears first album.

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From my own experience :
When I used to listen to music I had little to no interest in lyrics. I could really like a song but when I later on read the lyrics I didn’t think much of them or at worst didn’t like them at all. Lyrics were just part of the music.
Then I started listening to classical music (the “hits” first), and I tried to understand what it was all about.
So lyrics started to play a bigger role especially when listening to and later on going to opera. After a few years of preparing every opera (examining the lyrics to hook the notes to meaning) I was struggling with a Russian opera and letting it all go, I discovered that not preparing anything and just listening and letting the notes, instruments (including voices) work on their own, I started feeling in stead of understanding music.
So maybe for me I needed the stages I went through for me to truly enjoy music as I do now. I can now enjoy all genres of music of all cultures without prejudice or trying to understand it.

So you might have to take another route but I hope you achieve the music walhalla I am in:)
I still tend to be a "music listener" rather than a "lyrics listener." Even at an opera, I usually have only a passing interest in the plot, and instead am focused on the music itself. There's enough going on that there are different ways of taking it all in, and that's fine.

(To be clear, I'm not trying to suggest that those who listen carefully for lyrics aren't also listening for the music.)
 
I am all for this if there are two separate libraries, I have a lot of popular music and a lot of classical. I find it a pain to scroll through all the classical to find a popular song or artist and visa versa.
I would like this as well. The key for me, though, is whether it lets us add our "ripped" classical music that we already own (i.e., not from a service).
 
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