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I'm not sure how it will overcome the identical twin problem. My twin girls definitely wouldn't appreciate the other playing about on their iPad.
Photos app has never been able to tell them apart - I imagine this will be much more sophisticated, but faces are less unique than fingerprints - in our family at least!
Facial recognition isn't so much about your face as it is about the distance between your pupils which is even more unique than your fingerprint from what I heard.
 
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Facial recognition isn't so much about your face as it is about the distance between your pupils which is even more unique than your fingerprint from what I heard.

Hello facial recognition....

In this first step, the algorithm detects the user’s face in the camera stream and then locates facial landmark points (also known as alignment points), which correspond to eyes, nose, mouth, and so on.

To ensure the algorithm has enough of your face in view to make an authentication decision, it ensures the user is facing towards the device +/- 15 degrees.

Using the landmark locations as anchor points, the algorithm takes thousands of samples from different areas of the face to build a representation. The representation at its most basic form is a histogram representing the light and dark differences around specifics points. No image of the face is ever stored – it is only the representation.

Once there is a representation of the user in front of the sensor, it is compared to the enrolled users on the physical device. The representation must cross a machine-learned threshold before the algorithm will accept it as a correct match. If there are multiple users enrolled on the system, this threshold will increase accordingly to help ensure that security is not compromised.

Yes, MUCH more secure. Enterprise grade security.
 
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I do already on my SP4 all the time...not that bad, in fact its "magical". You can bet a pretty penny apl will not put more in than they need to and expect you to adapt. That means...Touch ID =toast.

You may get a touch ID dongle for the "magical" extra $79

For those that want additional backup you may be able to face ID and punch in a PIN
I have to say on the above video the blue circle thing is sort of lame.

SP4, Surface Pro 4? I've never really used a device which has facial recognition so you will have to help me out but you hold your Surface up and make contactless payments and authenticate with facial rec? Really? :D

What kind of distances does this facial rec work at. I used Apple Pay in store yesterday here in the UK and the touch to pay terminal was only slightly about waist height on me (I'm 6ft tall). Surely that would lead to people having to bend down to authenticate the payment?
 
SP4, Surface Pro 4? I've never really used a device which has facial recognition so you will have to help me out but you hold your Surface up and make contactless payments and authenticate with facial rec? Really? :D

What kind of distances does this facial rec work at. I used Apple Pay in store yesterday here in the UK and the touch to pay terminal was only slightly about waist height on me (I'm 6ft tall). Surely that would lead to people having to bend down to authenticate the payement?

I just tried it in my shaded room...about 6 feet and i was standing up 5'10" it was 24" off ground, no bending down. Its designed to track faces. You may have to hit "OK" when purchasing...to avoid erroneous charges.


Example: Casually walking down any street or shopping any place and be stopped for unpaid parking tickets.
 
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Casually walking down any street or shopping any place and be stopped for unpaid parking tickets.
 
I just tried it in my shaded room...about 6 feet and i was standing up 5'10" it was 24" off ground, no bending down. Its designed to track faces. You may have to hit "OK" when purchasing...to avoid erroneous charges.


Example: Casually walking down any street or shopping any place and be stopped for unpaid parking tickets.

Right, I see. So it is actually possible for them to implement it without it being ridiculous then, interesting. Thanks for that.
 
I would have been interested to see a more challenging demo, where similar-looking guy with short hair and a dark beard tries to authenticate. A beardless girl is recognized as different? Photos.app already does that well. After all it can sort my photos by face and do a *pretty* fair job of it.
 
Home button and headphone jack are basics I want in my phone . Use ability over gimickes, the very reason while I liked my Samsung s3 my iPhone at the time was a much better device .
 
Home button and headphone jack are basics I want in my phone . Use ability over gimickes, the very reason while I liked my Samsung s3 my iPhone at the time was a much better device .

Well that's just you isn't it? I personally can't see ever going back to Android. But things change.
Plenty of choice. That's the great thing for everyone. The consumer and complacency among the big players.
 
Dear MR,
While I enjoy these articles.... PLEASE stop mentioning the incredibly unlikely scenario of loss of TouchID.

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When TouchID came out; nobody was saying: "and Apple is removing the ability to use a passcode; you'll be forced to use this feature, whether it's buggy or not"- so I'm unsure why this time around everyone has glommed into this RIDICULOUS rumor, so far only postulated by a single "analyst", based here in America, that has no insider info, or ties w/ the production factories. It really reads like his personal opinion based on nothing other than that.... it's his opinion.
Not convinced the facial recognition tech will appear on the coming gen of iPhones, but if and when it will be introduced, I see it more as an additional layer of security, as in doing the facial scan once a day or after user adjustable intervals such as at slide-to-unlock, after which TouchId will be used for all other forms of authentication such as App purchases, etc. or brick and mortar retail store purchases.

Btw at $2 million, that most recent acquisition of RealFace seems like a relative bargain, if their Tech has any value at all.
 
Not convinced the facial recognition tech will appear on the coming gen of iPhones, but if and when it will be introduced, I see it more as an additional layer of security, as in doing the facial scan once a day or after user adjustable intervals such as at slide-to-unlock, after which TouchId will be used for all other forms of authentication such as App purchases, etc. or brick and mortar retail store purchases.

Btw at $2 million, that most recent acquisition of RealFace seems like a relative bargain, if their Tech has any value at all.

What makes you think that? Are there any past examples of this add-on redundancy from Apl? With MSFT I could add on a Type Keyboard with fingerprint (For Sp3 users mainly) ...that would be redundant.

In reality they take away and/or replace. Additional layer of security is a given with facial id as it is 4-5x better and the device itself is the other factor of ID. A lesser fingerprint is redundant...hence toast (saves cost, increases margins, creates a differential for older design).. Look at headphone jack loss, same thing.
 
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I doubt if facial recognition will usurp Touch ID in the immediate future.

Apple's acquisitions rarely result in quick technology redeployment. Siri took a couple of years to emerge as an iOS feature and so did impact of the PA Semi acquisition. Same with the acquisition of mapping technology companies. These acquisitions take years to integrate.

This acquisition could be used in multiple ways, including improving face recognition in Photos. Also, the technology could be adapted for mapping or text recognition to identify businesses, signage, etc.

If it deployed as biometric identification technology, it doesn't necessarily mean the demise of Touch ID. Apple may choose to use it as optional two-factor biometric security: facial recognition + Touch ID combined provide stronger security than either alone.

Also notable is the price tag: $2 million. That's chump change. Apple isn't imminently replacing Touch ID with $2M of acqui-hires and intellectual property.

Those are just some of my quick observations on a Sunday morning. My guess is that Apple's senior management has put more thought into the matter before they chose to acquire this company.
 
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