But why are they just going after iOS developers? Don't Android developers do the same to some degree with the Android Market?
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Apple 'Actively Investigating' Lodsys Patent Claims as More Developers Hit
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But why are they just going after iOS developers? Don't Android developers do the same to some degree with the Android Market?
Here is the single most important fact of this case that everyone should be aware of:
Apple already pays for a license of this patent from these ******s.
Lodsys is trying to double dip, by going after the individual developer using in-app purchase. Big Mistake.
Opinion: Apple shouldn't pay this extortionist outfit one penny in the first place. Who has a right to patent buying things? No one.
Apple already pays for a license of this patent from these ******s.
Lodsys is trying to double dip, by going after the individual developer using in-app purchase. Big Mistake.
Opinion: Apple shouldn't pay this extortionist outfit one penny in the first place. Who has a right to patent buying things? No one.
I think Lodsys claims are valid.
Developers should just pay and call it a day.
I got popcorn, do you?
Developers should just pay and call it a day.
I got popcorn, do you?
Well of course. If they lose developers then they lose apps and app store buyers etc. While its a nice gesture its not like Apple's a charity. The App store is a good steady source of income, to simply say to the developers "You're on your own" is pretty much like saying "have fun with Android!"
It's pretty much already destroyedThe U.S. needs to get away from the "well rounded education" idea. It doesn't work in the modern world.
You are mistaken. In tech, the US educations system is second to none. MIT, Stanford, Berkeley, RPI, Cal. Tech., U.Mich., Carnegie Mellon, etc., etc. And many of these schools rely on patent sales and patent licensing income for a major portion of their endowments.
As a three-time graduate of one of these schools, I also think you are mistaken about the curriculum. There was nothing "well rounded" about it. It was all engineering and science.
Theses schools I do give credit for. I should have clarified my post. The U.S. higher education system needs to have all schools modeled after like what you mentioned above where it focuses on your degree choice, not throwing in a bunch of garbage classes like many other schools do.
Patents don't need to be enforced like trademarks. To maintain a trademark, you need to pursue infringers immediately, or you lose the trademark. Patents? You can let them be infringed for 15 years, until the value of the infringement makes it worth your while to then sue. And then pursue only the infringers you want. Not kidding.
iOS developers are a much more lucrative target in terms of generated revenue. Developing for both platforms, the difference between my iOS and Android revenue is still a chasm.
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The Google Docs, or GMail, or Google Web Search, or Google Translate, etc...code sure is open.
Google is only for open source on desktop stuff. IOW, areas where they don't compete.
Who said Apple is a licensee?
Everybody seems to accept the rumor of Apple being a licensee as truth. I highly doubt that this is actually the case. Lodsys, in lawyerspeak, only said that "Apple has already licensed the intellectual property for use in its own products and services", and thereby turned this whole public relations nightmare around quite nicely. But they never said that Apple is a licensee for this specific patent - or any patent of Lodsys at all.
The patent system (especially the one of the US) is fundamentally flawed, and this won't be fixed easily. Even if Apple decides to step in for the developers, they can't just put an end to this (except maybe buying Lodsys, but that would open the flood gates for similar patent trolls). I suppose Apple would have to somehow invalidate the patent, which would be extremely hard and could also lead to some of their own patents questioned by third parties.
All things considered, it's a big mess.
I wonder about the legal situation in other parts of the world; especially Europe. Any non-US developers hit by Lodsys yet?
Everybody seems to accept the rumor of Apple being a licensee as truth. I highly doubt that this is actually the case. Lodsys, in lawyerspeak, only said that "Apple has already licensed the intellectual property for use in its own products and services", and thereby turned this whole public relations nightmare around quite nicely. But they never said that Apple is a licensee for this specific patent - or any patent of Lodsys at all.
The patent system (especially the one of the US) is fundamentally flawed, and this won't be fixed easily. Even if Apple decides to step in for the developers, they can't just put an end to this (except maybe buying Lodsys, but that would open the flood gates for similar patent trolls). I suppose Apple would have to somehow invalidate the patent, which would be extremely hard and could also lead to some of their own patents questioned by third parties.
All things considered, it's a big mess.
I wonder about the legal situation in other parts of the world; especially Europe. Any non-US developers hit by Lodsys yet?
Thank you Apple for getting involved.
While legally Apple probably does not has to take any action (except if they assume their license payement should cover developers), it is nice to see they get involved. But it is also in Apples interest to get involved. Companies like this threatening small developers (and apparently only small indie developers without legal department and layers) - this will make small developers scared of developing new stuff for the AppStore. If companies like Lodsys succeed with this scare tactics it will kill innovation of new apps. Interesting to see that they target only small iOS developers - I haven't heard any news that they go after android/mobile7 developers or any big name developers (with legal departments and/or cash for layers) ....
While legally Apple probably does not has to take any action (except if they assume their license payement should cover developers), it is nice to see they get involved. But it is also in Apples interest to get involved. Companies like this threatening small developers (and apparently only small indie developers without legal department and layers) - this will make small developers scared of developing new stuff for the AppStore. If companies like Lodsys succeed with this scare tactics it will kill innovation of new apps. Interesting to see that they target only small iOS developers - I haven't heard any news that they go after android/mobile7 developers or any big name developers (with legal departments and/or cash for layers) ....
I hope your kidding. If you are, ignore the rest of my post. If not here it is:
The developer would end up making almost no money after paying Lodsys's ridiculous fee that they in no way, shape, or form deserve.
To put it in perspective say you baked wedding cakes for a living and you bought all your cake mix from a certain supplier. Well one day someone sues you because they claim to have patented an IDEA for an ingredient in the cake mix you use that you bought from someone else and they want 57% of your profits now. Would you pay up?
While I'm sure they could be misleading us, how does their statement not relate to the issue at hand? That's an understanding beyond cynicism.
Yup. I was kidding. Didn't feel like writing some PERL code so ended up trolling here. :|
But yes, I am just waiting for Lodsys to sue me so I could forward my complaint to Apple.
It's not that I cannot sustain by paying the required amounts to Lodsys, I can. I can easily sustain and so do the developers I have talked to do.
But yes, I wouldn't want to pay to a patent troll for such a ridiculous patent. I better remove the update option and go **** in front of their office every morning and night. Simple.
Well I didn't read the other half of his post as he asked me not to, but that was funny. Maybe thats the info he has or maybe he just mistyped.
0.575% is practically very less but still enough for a person to decline and remove the option or go to court.
How many of these developers even make $20,000 a year off their apps. Based on an earlier post on this subject, $20,000 a year would be fee of $115 a year. You can't hire a lawyer for that, while I think patent trolling needs to end, not sure this one is worth fighting over???
Saw your other post eventually, too. Timing.
Got percents? Because yes, I think much of the patent system, and schooling system, is absurd. Many schools appear to be relying on football revenue at this point. The entirety of the "US higher education system" is becoming something else, something I doubt someone like you (based on post #30) will appreciate.